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Title: Keiser: The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/keiser-the- ... nt-bankster-regime-is-upon-us/
Published: Jun 17, 2013
Author: Max Keiser
Post Date: 2013-06-17 13:22:26 by Horse
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Views: 6320
Comments: 64

We’re in a post-capitalist, post-socialism world. I have just come back from the G8 protests in Belfast and it occurred to me – at this point; we’re post both capitalism and socialism – and this point needs to be made clear, but we also see some vestiges of both systems in a new, emerging economy that has yet to be named.

I agree with the G8 protesters in Belfast that capitalism – as it’s been iterated in the West in the post WWII era has run its course. The main cause for its demise, as I see it, is that during the 1980’s; thanks to deregulation, futures and options speculation and leverage migrated over to the burgeoning field of ‘financial futures’ and the price discovery mechanism associated with supply and demand and the ‘invisible hand’ – over the ensuing few decades – completely broke down. Money itself lost any anchor to value as futures traders speculated with virtually no risk on contracts worth many billions that had been willed into existence by financial engineers not by dint of any underlying economic activity.

And there’s no going back now. You see, financial futures are trading on prices that are based – not on any underlying economic reality – but rather a series of assumptions based on academically-concatenated theories and theorems which in turn generate a new set of prices. The result is that capital flows into destabilizing ‘malinvestments’ all hidden by the outsized returns of intermediaries like hedge funds who make billions mining what has become essentially a broken system of monetizing fraud.

Since the rising unemployment and social unrest these financially engineered malinvestments produce is ignored, because hedge funds have been making lots of money, nobody is willing to step forward and suggest that making money at the expense of a sound market might be a bad thing. The fake prices are never questioned and the fraudulently garnered riches are always celebrated.

Prices for all commodities and securities have permanently lost their connection to a functioning economy. Once a pickle, never a cucumber. Financialized capitalism is now in its death throes.

What about socialism?

As that term is generally understood – it has also burnt out. Central planning, hierarchical governments, and doctrines guaranteeing ‘fairness’ simply don’t work; primarily because all centrally planned systems of markets and governments fail the ‘naturalness’ test. Nothing in nature works for long that is so rigid and unadaptable as man made experiments in central planning except for a few parasites and cancer.

Today we have hybrid models that contain bits from the previous schools that are racing ahead to fill the vacuum left by collapse of both capitalism and socialism.

Crowdfunding is an emergent idea. It owes a debt of gratitude to socialism. It’s part of ‘social networking,’ a phenomenon of leveraging the ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ idea. Keep in mind that Google’s multi-billion dollar valuation is driven by billions of individuals donating their time and creativity to the collective. So too for ‘open-source’ software and p2p file swapping. But there is also a necessary component of competition associated with free market capitalism in crowd funding. A platform like Kickstarter allows for ideas to compete in a free market – where the funds flow where the market goes; not where a central planner wants funds to go.

Bitcoin is also a post capitalism/socialism hybrid. It’s growth is driven by a hard coded, centrally imagined algorithm while it’s adoption is possible via the free market activities of users who are rejecting centrally planned, bogus fiat currencies like Pounds, Dollars, and Yen and using Bitcoin instead.

The collapse of the current bankster regime is upon us. This means a whole new set of winners and losers. The point is that it’s not all grim. The future is being imagined and implemented as we speak.

Special for Infowars from Max Keiser, host of Russia Today’s Keiser Report, a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines. See his latest report discussing the price holograms in a simulated economy.


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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us

Max has a limited perspective.

I really cannot wait for the FED to collapse. It has been robbing the people blind for too many years.

What we will get in its place is hard to tell at this point. But, hopefully those traitors in the District of Criminals will get some spines and give us something honest that we can all live with.

I hear Bitcoin has a few advantages over traditional fiat currency.

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-17   16:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   19:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

There is also NO CONSTITUTION for the same reason, at least not in the jurisdictional environment of COMMERCE where debt is monetized but it's not constitutional money.

As long as we had Constitutionally authorized "MONEY" we had a Constitution.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-17   20:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222, BTP Holdings (#3)

As you know, I just don't think of commerce and the money system as having any actual jurisdictional legitimacy that supplants/nullifies the Constitution. I know it seems so, what with the artficial stratosphere the operators there have devised as if they're above Constitutional law like Olympiads and can impose their dictats on us who do abide by the Constitution as our real government. But, let's pause that debate and focus instead on what BTP said about the abrogation of the gold standard meaning that all debts must be cancelled. Sounds good to me. How about you?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   23:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GreyLmist (#4)

But, let's pause that debate and focus instead on what BTP said about the abrogation of the gold standard meaning that all debts must be cancelled. Sounds good to me. How about you?

Your positions are based in emotion with little regard for facts.

I too, long for constitutional governance but there is no evidence that the gargantuan machination we call the UNITED STATES (a commercial entity) has any intention of forfeiting its commercial stranglehold on its "customers" that have VOLUNTARILY entered the commercial arena via convenience agreements based upon debt based commercial paper.

The courts are bound by these agreements (contracts) because the constitution clearly allows for the making of contracts without government interference.

As fars as "all debts must be discharged" goes that's a given. In an absolute debt based system absent real money - the only means of resolving debt is by discharge which doesn't EXTINGUISH the debt through payment but merely relieves the debtor of his/her obligation to honor the "promise to pay." Everyone in this system of finance is a liar and a thief because the promise to pay CANNOT be kept.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-18   6:23:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222, GreyLmist (#5)

there is no evidence that the gargantuan machination we call the UNITED STATES (a commercial entity) has any intention of forfeiting its commercial stranglehold on its "customers" that have VOLUNTARILY entered the commercial arena via convenience agreements based upon debt based commercial paper.

This is true. We ALL participate in Commerce by the use of their Federal Reserve Notes to purchase "items" at the "grocery store" or the "mall" or the "gas station". ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-07-16   17:56:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BTP Holdings (#27)

We ALL participate in Commerce by the use of their Federal Reserve Notes to purchase "items" at the "grocery store" or the "mall" or the "gas station". ;)

I could trade some FRNs at a bank for rolls of gold coins but whether or not any businesses will accept those coins instead of FRNs and "standard issue" coinage of lesser precious metal content is not something that is simply a participation choice that's optional for me. If they choose to demand the usual tokens of exchange because they're worried about getting robbed by thugs or intimidated by financiers if they take in gold coins, I might run out of gas or not be able to buy food. A few of us trying to use those coins if we can won't make much difference in the magnitude of our national dilemma financially. We need an alternative currency system on a major scale ASAP -- preferably protected by our State Militias.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-17   2:15:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GreyLmist (#30)

A few of us trying to use those coins if we can won't make much difference in the magnitude of our national dilemma financially. We need an alternative currency system on a major scale ASAP -- preferably protected by our State Militias.

They ran the Liberty Dollar out of business long ago. That was the only major alternative currency aroung that was backed by silver and gold.

There is currently "Bitcoin", which I am not terribly familar with. But it seems to be an electronic currency that you can use online or in other ways. As far as I know, it has no backing by precious metals. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-07-18   16:40:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BTP Holdings, noone222, Hmmmmm, 4 (#32) (Edited)

Me: We need an alternative currency system on a major scale ASAP -- preferably protected by our State Militias.

BTP Holdings: There is currently "Bitcoin", which I am not terribly familar with. But it seems to be an electronic currency that you can use online or in other ways. As far as I know, it has no backing by precious metals. ;)

I've posted this 3 minute video a couple of times recently [here and here] but this time I'm going to title it: Dr. Edwin Vieira's Bitcoin-like Treasury option - 08.01.09 and set the link to start at 1:33. At that point, he talks about how we could transact online with gold and silver; in precise measurements to make change as needed. Probably not many of us would have gold and silver in the early stages to transact with that way but I think that situation would improve soon as it started making its way through our participatory economy.

I would suggest for our usage as sound money that the valuation of our precious metal inventories be set by a stable standard of weights and measures, not market fluctuations. Congress could do that for us if they weren't scoundrels but likely won't. Am not sure but the States might not be able to involve themselves in the weights and measures process of helping to make Dr. Vieira's Bitcoin-like idea workable, since they are prohibited by the Constitution from coining money and emitting bills of credit too. We the People could set the weight and measure values ourselves by agreement.

Am of the opinion that market based gold and silver should be considered like foreign currency that requires an exchange fee and somewhat higher amounts to be imported for conversion to our system, which could provide more purchasing power to the converter by moving it into our better stabilized economy. Also, less risk to them of possibly losing more value than the importation-tranferrence costs if the market prices of their gold and silver holdings drop on Wall Street and elsewhere. Militia trustees and technicians could perhaps serve on rotational duty as our Treasury workers and security guards to help protect the system for us, supervised by their officers that would give reports to the rest of us to verify. The same principle for other currency options that we might decide to use ethically rather than the Fed Res debt instruments.

Edited for quote clarification.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-19   20:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: All (#38)

[Dr. Vieira] talks about how we could transact online with gold and silver; in precise measurements to make change as needed. Probably not many of us would have gold and silver in the early stages to transact with that way but I think that situation would improve soon as it started making its way through our participatory economy.

I would suggest for our usage as sound money that the valuation of our precious metal inventories be set by a stable standard of weights and measures, not market fluctuations. Congress could do that for us if they weren't scoundrels but likely won't. Am not sure but the States might not be able to involve themselves in the weights and measures process of helping to make Dr. Vieira's Bitcoin-like idea workable, since they are prohibited by the Constitution from coining money and emitting bills of credit too. We the People could set the weight and measure values ourselves by agreement.

Paper Drive 1945 - Woodrow Wilson Junior High School, San Jose CA - YouTube

Uploaded on Jun 28, 2011 - 2 minute video

A paper and scrap drive held by students of Woodrow Wilson Junior High School in approximately 1945.

Woodrow Wilson of Fed Res notoriety.

Was trying to think of how we could start stocking our own Treasury with phyical gold and silver -- enough to get more and more people using our sound monetary system soon in our own economic club. Remembered that there used to be paper drives years ago and thought: We could probably get rid of a bunch of FRNs by doing something like that. Whoever donated some of their paper FRNs so that our Treasury could buy up physical gold and silver from "the markets" could maybe get a receipt that would be redeemable for a special FRN Paper Drive Collector Coin. We could even have an ongoing FRN Paper Drive in exchange for Collector Coins everyday. Some people might want to use their receipt for deposit into the Bitcoin-like method of transacting instead of getting a Collector Coin. I reckon either way should be doable without too much difficulty in constructing those coinage systems.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-23   9:15:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#59)

As long as the synagogue of satan runs the fed, the banks, and wall street; we will continue to be screwed mercilessly.

And then it all implodes.

Lod  posted on  2013-07-28   15:52:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Lod (#60)

And then it all implodes.

"Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?" -- The Chicago Transit Authority aka Chicago for short

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-29   7:39:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: GreyLmist (#62)

25 or 6 to 4, I guess.

(Man, 43 years ago...)

Lod  posted on  2013-07-29   7:51:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Lod (#63)

25 or 6 to 4, I guess.

LOL Sounds about right to me. :)

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-29   10:02:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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