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Title: Bye-Bye 5th Amendment! Supreme Court Decides: Anything You Don’t Say Can and Will Be Used Against You
Source: The Organic Prepper
URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/luther/luther38.1.html
Published: Jun 20, 2013
Author: Daisy Luther
Post Date: 2013-06-20 07:24:33 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 638
Comments: 25

Everyone knows that when building a police state, it’s vital to strike a few Constitutional rights off the books. Now, we can add the right to remain silent to the graveyard of the American justice system. How can you expect the people to be properly subjugated with all those pesky freedoms that the Bill of Rights blathers on about?

The would-be totalitarians can chalk up another victory, because the Supreme Court has made the decision that if you opt to remain silent, that silence can (and will) be used against you in a court of law.

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution guarantees our right against self- incrimination.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The Supreme Court said that unless a person specifically asks for their Fifth Amendment right to remain silence, that your silence can be used as an indication of guilt. The case was brought to court on the basis of an unconstitutional prosecution against Genovevo Salinas. Justice Alito, who has a history of excusing the most disturbing abuses in favor of the government, said,“[Salinas'] Fifth Amendment claim fails because he did not expressly invoke the privilege against self-incrimination in response to the officer’s question. It has long been settled that the privilege `generally is not self-executing’ and that a witness who desires its protection `must claim it.’”

So, the advice to sit there and keep your mouth shut, should you be unfortunate enough to have been accused of committing a crime, is no longer the best option. If the police fail to read you your Miranda warning, you must explicitly say that you are claiming your Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate yourself. In stating that, aren’t you, in fact, letting the police know that a crime, has indeed been committed by you? The right to remain silent is supposed to mean just that – you can refuse to answer questions and your silence will not be used against you.

Justice Breyer said, in his dissent:

“The need to categorize Salinas’ silence as based on the Fifth Amendment is supported here by the presence, in full force, of the predicament I discussed earlier, namely that of not forcing Salinas to choose between incrimination through speech and incrimination through silence. That need is also supported by the absence of any special reason that the police had to know, with certainty, whether Salinas was, in fact, relying on the Fifth Amendment – such as whether to doubt that there really was a risk of self-incrimination, see Hoffman v. United States, 341 U. S. 479, 486 (1951), or whether to grant immunity, see Kastigar, 406 U. S., at 448. Given these circumstances, Salinas’ silence was “sufficient to put the [government] on notice of an apparent claim of the privilege.” Quinn, supra, at 164. That being so, for reasons similar to those given in Griffin, the Fifth Amendment bars the evidence of silence admitted against Salinas and mentioned by the prosecutor.”

In 2001, Ohio vs. Reiner, the Supreme Court ruled that “a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing. The privilege serves to protect the innocent who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances.”

Apparently they have changed their minds.

As Justice Breyer said, you must now choose whether to incriminate yourself through speech and incriminate yourself through silence. I wasn’t there when they wrote it, but I really don’t think that “devil and the deep blue sea” decision is what the authors of the Fifth Amendment had in mind.

The “Supreme Court” is a joke.

Yesterday it was announced that they struck down the need to prove your citizenship in order to vote in the United States – all you have to do is say you’re an American, and then “poof – here’s a ballot!” They have decided again and again in favor of huge, evil corporations like Monsanto. They have decided in favor of Obamacare. The conflicts of interest within the Supreme Court, large corporations, the banking industry, and the government are so blatant that they don’t even bother to defend themselves against accusations of such.

The checks and balances designed to be in place with the three branches of power are all leaning to one side – there is no balance. We are collapsing into a police state, and the Judicial branch has just tipped us even further into that deep hole. It would be difficult to argue that this destruction of our freedom is not deliberate.

The Justices of the highest court in the land don their robes, they hear these cases, and they destroy the Constitution, amendment by amendment.

Reprinted with permission from The Organic Prepper.

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#6. To: Ada, ALL HYPOCRITES (#0)

The Justices of the highest court in the land don their robes, they hear these cases, and they destroy the Constitution, amendment by amendment.

This is bullshit. The CON-sti-STUPID was destroyed by the banksters and their international counterfeiting institutions. Of course the banker scumbags didn't advertise their takeover on ABC or in the JEW YORK TIMES or any other ASHKENAZI media outlet - no, they have bought, bribed and blackmailed ALL of your favorite "representatives" (hahahahaha) in order to incrementally introduce you fucking VOTER morons to totalitarian enslavement.

The CON-STI-STUPID is a figment of your patriotic imagination. You and I have been programmed from childhood to believe in the John Wayne style of patriotism while most people today are too soft in the spine, the heart and the head to stand up and do what's right.

What's right ? 1st and foremost - the banks and bankers have destroyed liberty and justice in America - so they need to be eliminated. Period. The phrase "with liberty and justice for ALL" is a pitiful and meaningless phrase today and a magnifier of our SHAME.

Most of the time the articles posted and the responding posts blame some nebulous entity for our woes. The Jews, the Judges, the political hacks, the bankers, etc., are being blamed when the truth is this: WE ARE THE GUILTY. WE'RE SO WEAK WE CAN"T EVEN QUIT USING THEIR SATANIC FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

The hell that's coming is being financed by YOU. Don't blame others until you first search your own heart and ask if you couldn't quit being a FED.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-21   5:57:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6) (Edited)

Constitutionalists have no representative government currently. We have no real Justice system. We have no sound monetary or economic systems. We have the Constitution, they don't. Now what besides blame ourselves for their destruction?

Edited for spelling.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-21   6:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GreyLmist (#7)

We have the Constitution, they don't.

Neither of you have it - only they're adamant about it !

noone222  posted on  2013-06-21   18:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#9)

Neither of you have it - only they're adamant about it !

Every Constitutionalist has the Constitution on their side. What do you think we should do next? We could multi-task: start special elections to replace the frauds and start our own Economic system.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-21   20:40:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#12)

Every Constitutionalist has the Constitution on their side. What do you think we should do next?

Look, I know that we (all) would like to live in a real Constitutional Republic. But here's the rub. There's a thing called "choice of law" and we have chosen (by our own voluntary actions) Law Merchant/Maritime Law in lieu of the common law (Constitutional Law). We didn't actually do it with full knowledge of what was happening, I admit that much. We inherited it. The point is that we are here now and if we're not content to live with the "shit" this government is doing we are the only ones that can stop it. And we can't stop it by maintaining the status quo.

We cannot have a Constitutional Republic and operate our lives using commercial paper. It's that simple.

But to answer your question about what I think we should do first, I think we should take a real hard look at ourselves and forget all of the bullshit we've been programmed to believe and deal in strict realities, avoiding all frauds.

We should never have dealings with any legal fiction because that's all fraud. Corporations and governments are simply things others have invented to minimize liability and maximize opportunism. We should accept liability for our own actions.

Things will heat up at some point and we'll see some real brutality and wish we'd have had a massive tax revolt or some form of demonstration to put the fear back into the hearts and minds of the public "servants" - where it belongs.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-21   22:06:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#15)

To have an economy free of their money-scams, I think we are going to have to establish some things by teamwork like a Patriot workforce and a Patriot marketplace that actually uses Patriot alt-currency.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-02   10:13:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist, noone222 (#16) (Edited)

To have an economy free of their money-scams, I think we are going to have to establish some things by teamwork like a Patriot workforce and a Patriot marketplace that actually uses Patriot alt-currency.

Actully just to be sure, we are at the precipice of industrial change. Plastic guns that can fire over 600 rounds can now be printed... what that means is things like internal combustion engines can be printed, cheap housing can be produced, Own your own drone, print your own solar panels, the 3D printed can make anything...in super hard plastic or with low temp melt metals and it is affordable to all.

Through out history it has been the industrial revolutions that have spearheaded the societal changes. The digital age has put us all into contact with each other... that we might put forth our best ideas to us all.... This breaks the old status quo and sends waves of fear into the ruling classes.... that we the common folk might have equal footing with them, equal opportunity to prosper and advance. That 3d printer is coming into its own. This new world is not being built for a new world order. The old idea is old and out dated. This new world is being built by me and my son and all us here that can dive into this new internet age with love and respect for our fellow man.

titorite  posted on  2013-07-02   16:55:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: titorite, 4 (#18)

This new world is being built by me and my son and all us here that can dive into this new internet age with love and respect for our fellow man.

That is the hope and dream of most here.

Great good luck with it, friend.

Lod  posted on  2013-07-02 17:21:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: titorite (#18)

There was an article on grist.com 's newsletter today about a company that's printing animal parts - they just printed a replacement foot for a duck.

Check it out.

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