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Title: Rand Paul: Clapper Lied, Snowden Told the Truth
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/rand-paul-c ... r-lied-snowden-told-the-truth/
Published: Jun 24, 2013
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2013-06-24 09:31:48 by Ada
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Views: 224
Comments: 9

Senator warns whistleblower not to cozy up to Russia, China

Senator Rand Paul told CNN yesterday that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden will be historically viewed as a truth teller whereas Obama national security director James Clapper will be judged as a liar for telling Congress that the NSA was not spying on Americans.

“I would say that Mr. Snowden hasn’t lied to anyone,” Paul told CNN’s Candy Crowley. “He did break his oath of office, but part of his oath of office is to the Constitution, and he believes that, when James Clapper came in March, our national director of intelligence came and lied, that he [Snowden] was simply coming forward and telling the truth that your government was lying. This is a big concern of mine, because it makes me doubt the administration and their word to us when they talk to us, because they have now admitted they will lie to us if they think it is in the name of national security.”

Paul is referring to Clapper’s March testimony in front of the Senate intelligence committee, during which he claimed that the National Security Agency did “not wittingly” collect data on Americans’ communications. Following Snowden’s revelations about the PRISM program, Clapper tried to clarify his remarks by stating, “I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful, manner by saying ‘no.’”

“Mr Clapper lied in Congress in defiance of the law in the name of security – Mr. Snowden told the truth in the name of privacy, so I think there will be a judgment because both of them broke the law and history will have to determine,” added Paul.

The Kentucky Senator also warned Snowden against cozying up to the Russian or Chinese governments, noting that such a move would only serve to discredit the whistleblower.

“I do think, for Mr. Snowden, if he cozies up to the Russian government, it will be nothing but bad for his name in history,” said Paul. “If he goes to an independent third country like Iceland and if he refuses to talk to any sort of formal government about this, I think there’s a chance that he’ll be seen as an advocate of privacy. If he cozies up to either the Russian government, the Chinese government, or any of these governments that are perceived still as enemies of ours, I think that will be a real problem for him in history.” Responding to Senator Charles Schumer’s assertion that Snowden is no hero in comparison with someone like Martin Luther King, Paul pointed out that King was never threatened with life in prison.

Snowden flew from Hong Kong to Russia on Sunday, but expectations that he would then fly on to Havana were dashed when it was revealed this morning that Snowden was not on the flight to Cuba. “Snowden had never actually been sighted in Moscow, and there was actually no real evidence that he had ever been in Russia at all,” reports the Guardian.

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#1. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

Consider this theory: Snowden is a fake, selected and rehearsed in his part by the CIA/NSA/etc.

Suppose the US govt's snooping efforts under the Patriot Act were ineffective; there were thousands of systems they (=CIA/NSA) couldn't penetrate, the computer programs that were supposed to scan for suspicious words were not very effective, and (something we know for sure) the govt has only a small fraction of the translators it needs for the more than a dozen languages involved. In short, the govt is actually able to eavesdrop on only a very small percentage of stuff. But it wants to intimidate the terrorists, make the terrorists give up using high tech communications methods and essentially go very slow.

So the govt decides "We'll con the terrorists into thinking we're everywhere, listening to everything. That will make some would-be terrorists give up completely and others operate at a snail's pace." So they find Snowden, coach him, work up phony papers for him, and turn him loose to 'reveal' to the world that the NSA knows all and hears all. And just to give Snowden credibility, the govt will then act all upset about him and go through the motions of trying to stomp him out. Maybe he spends the next 20 years as the honored guest of some hostile country (during which time he might find out some facts useful to the US) or maybe somebody trusses him up so we have to go through the motions of arresting him - in which case we'll say he's in an unidentified prison under an pseudonym, for his protection, so you cannot visit or write to him (and actually he'll be living the good life under a new identity).

Does this seem possible to you??

Shoonra  posted on  2013-06-24   9:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

Sounds like he's gone to ground (already) at an undisclosed location/country.

He's no dummie.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-06-24   10:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#1)

It's plausible. They could even have gone so far as to add a little T&A (the hot girlfriend pics) to the story to spice it up. Anything is possible. As I 've said, they don't have the resourses to track and monitor everybody.

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-06-24   10:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

Itistoolate  posted on  2013-06-24   10:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#1)

"We'll con the terrorists into thinking we're everywhere, listening to everything. That will make some would-be terrorists give up completely and others operate at a snail's pace."

The terrorists will redouble their efforts.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-06-24   10:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle, 4um (#5)

The terrorists will redouble their efforts.

This NSA/CIA spying has nothing to do with "terrorists" because the only terrorists are the jews, israelis and zionists that have coopted the government in this country.

They're building case files on every citizen they can to be used against them at the government's convenience. This has been ongoing for at least 25 years and probably back to WWII or before.

The data being compiled on everyone would make a former East German Stasi green with envy. Look at the lengths the government went to to frame Edgar J. Steele because he was effective in informing people who the real enemies of the American people are.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-06-24   10:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#4)

very good!

christine  posted on  2013-06-24   10:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#6)

well said.

christine  posted on  2013-06-24   10:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Shoonra (#1)

We'll con the terrorists into thinking we're everywhere, listening to everything.

What terrorists? The imaginary ones or the US government?

Ada  posted on  2013-06-24   14:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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