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Title: More Sandy Hoax Bloopers
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Published: Jun 27, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-06-27 11:29:00 by Lod
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Neil, christine, webmasters here - we need a FFOp category.

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#1. To: Lod, All (#0)

Sandy Hook Hoax - Con. Freedom of Information Act CHANGED FOREVER to Protect the Lie - YouTube

2 minute 50 second video. Alleged sister of Victoria Soto at the start and at 2:40. Controversy over the State of Connecticut's Open Government laws reported at 0:40. News report on the legislation which was passed there at the State capital is shown at 1:45.

Published on Jun 5, 2013

No more freedom of information,

need to protect these actors/musicians and their scam, and now, in the future these hoaxes are even easier!

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-27   15:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#0)

I am not sure how this constitutes a blooper or a hoax or anything else. It's a bundle of news reports within 24 hours of the shooting, while facts are still being collected and various newsmen are getting information or even misinformation from people who seem to know something.

After complicated horrific events like this, in which many witnesses are traumatized or highly suggestible or unwilling to talk, it may take weeks or even many months to sort out all the details correctly.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-06-27   18:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra, Lod (#2)

As a rule of thumb you get the most accurate information in the first 24 hours after an event - BEFORE the spin machine cranks up into high gear. That does not guarantee that every piece of reportage is accurate, but it is less likely to be outright "spin". Und vee all know vhat spin is - a euphemism for LIES.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-06-27   18:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

My own experience with such events, which goes back at least to the JFK assassination, is quite the opposite. Early on a lot of rumors, and people repeatingt rumors as if proven fact, and some amateurish theories or impressions also being spoken of as if proven fact. Later, after some serious crime scene investigation and measurements, the truth comes out ... belated and often in drips and drabs.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-06-29   21:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#4)

Funny you should mention the JFK hit. As it so happened my parents had just moved and I was staying at my Aunt's house as I was not yet back in school, and watched the shooting live on Tee Bee. I was watching as the bullet hit him in the head from the front, and it was clearly a frontal shot. However, another day for that argument.

However, I did carefully weasel word my comment i.e., that NOT ALL early reports are valid. My point is simply that you are more likely to get uncensored raw data in the first 24 hours. It may take weeding through it, cross checking and validating, but usually there will be a handful of reports that were reasonably accurate, and more important neither censored nor tailored. This is particularly true in the case of a staged event or one involving government misdeeds.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-06-29   22:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

As a rule of thumb you get the most accurate information in the first 24 hours after an event

I used to be a newspaper reporter and editor and you are as wrong as can be.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2013-06-29   22:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#6)

As a rule of thumb you get the most accurate information in the first 24 hours after an event

I used to be a newspaper reporter and editor and you are as wrong as can be.

Who, where, what, when, and why?

In other words you make an assertion but provide no argument, other than by the false logic of an "appeal to authority", to support your assertion. Thus it is, as is known in logical circles, an unsupported assertion.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-06-29   23:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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