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Title: Raw Video: George Zimmerman reenacts incident for Sanford Police
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX1sxARNq_c&feature=player_embedded
Published: Jun 30, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-06-30 04:11:54 by Horse
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Published on Jun 21, 2012 by weshtv

Description: Defense attorneys release a video of George Zimmerman reenacting the fatal fight with Trayvon Martin.

2. Witness Says Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman - YouTube - 2.5 minutes

Published on Mar 24, 2012 by GooberTheUncouth

From the Description: Zimmerman can be heard screaming for help as the Witness called 911. [My Note: only one voice heard on those calls]

3. Journalists Threatened By Sanford Police.wmv - YouTube - 2.25 minutes

Published on Mar 30, 2012 by Gordon Duff

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4. Zimmerman v. Trayvon - Proof Martin Went Home, Then Back Out To Get George - YouTube - 2.75 minutes

Published on May 25, 2013 by Michael Mortimer

From the Description: Did Martin actually go home ... Look at these two news clips. On February 27, 2012, a few hours after the shooting, Brandy Green seems to be saying to the Fox News reporter that Trayvon was sitting on the porch ... in the video see that when she describes what happened and that he was sitting on her porch, she is at the "T" near where the shooting occurred, and pointing toward her residence and porch. ... So the question I have, when Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon Martin, was that because Trayvon Martin ran back to Brandy Green's house ... [More]

5. WHAT THE DEFENSE DID NOT WANT THE JURY TO HEAR !!! - PART 2 - YouTube

Published on Jul 25, 2012 by Phil Owens [Language warning]

From the Description: A worried Zimmerman, who possible believes that the detectives are on his side, admits that the excruciating screams did not sound like him. ... His star witness John says he only heard three short yells.

6. George Zimmerman Trial Juror #b37 Does Interview With Her Identity Concealed - YouTube - 37 minutes

Published on Jul 15, 2013 by MOXNEWSd0tC0M

My Note: B37 indicates that the Jurors believed Zimmerman shot Martin because he believed he was in fear for his life but his own reenactment statements are contradictory and implausible. She claims at the 5:00 minute mark that the Lauer 9/11 call was significant because it went through before the struggle, during the struggle, the gunshot and then after... a 9/11 call by Lauer before the struggle? CNN Pics of Zimmerman show bleeding not seen in police film at video #3.

7. See simulation of Zimmerman-Martin fight - YouTube - 2.5 minutes

Published on Jul 9, 2013 by CNN

Description: Judge Debra Nelson is deciding whether jurors will see a computer animation of the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin fight.

This video shows a simulated reconstruction for court presentation that depicts Martin using his left arm to hit Zimmerman on the right side of the face. More importantly, it seems to be evidence that a struggle at the T-corner was not witnessed and (unless this is a PsyOp, which is likely) Martin was shot (or is thought to have been shot) directly across from his home or nearly so. In Zimmerman's reenactment video at #1 [10:30 mark], he raises his left arm to the left side of his face and claims that, rather than falling backwards to the ground after being struck, the fight moved forward -- not towards his vehicle but into the complex towards Martin's residence. There are major problems with his own statements in the reenactment video, such as: Why he didn't know the names of the streets, even for the clubhouse, when he supposedly lived in the area since 2007 and had been in charge of patrolling it since September 2011. Also, why his clothing in the police videos looked clean and dry; [since it had been raining -- was pouring down rain, according to Juror B37 at 9:19 of video #6]. He claims that Martin was moving for his gun and that's when he shot him but didn't know he had shot him, then proceeded to restrain him face down on the ground and, oddly, asked a guy with a flashlight for help to restrain someone who probably wouldn't have been moving at all by then. He did not ask the man to call for an ambulance or if he could help with First Aid/CPR. He told the man not to call the police because he'd already done that but the man would not have known for sure if he actually had done that or if he was assaulting Martin.

According to Zimmerman himself, this is not a "Stand Your Ground" case (in the sense that it's widely believed to be) but more like an alleged accidental shooting with negligence on his part to do anything to help or get help for someone who had not demonstrably used a weapon against him and, strangely, he tried instead to prevent a call to the police for help. It seems somewhat similar, imo, to the incident of a White victim being left to die in the street by Black attackers but not quite at that level, since this is reportedly a one-on-one struggle, Martin wasn't in the street and Zimmerman didn't leave the scene before the police arrived. Neither Martin or Zimmerman have impeccable histories (and probably very few people do) but that is a distraction from the evidence of the case at the point of confrontation. My impression, if this really happened, is not that there was no case that could have been properly charged for any conviction in this matter, if investigated thoroughly, but that it was maybe overcharged and/or deliberately thrown to agitate racial tensions, as it has. I think a closer look at the evidence above could bring about more balanced perspectives on how America has been baited into a worsened state of racial turmoil from this issue.

Edited for video numbering, punctuation and capitalization + sentence 2 of last paragraph and the next to last sentence there + last 2 sentences of the paragraph above it and bracketed inserts there.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-28   5:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

4. Zimmerman v. Trayvon - Proof Martin Went Home, Then Back Out To Get George - YouTube - 2.75 minutes

Published on May 25, 2013 by Michael Mortimer

From the Description: Did Martin actually go home ... Look at these two news clips. On February 27, 2012, a few hours after the shooting, Brandy Green seems to be saying to the Fox News reporter that Trayvon was sitting on the porch ... in the video see that when she describes what happened and that he was sitting on her porch, she is at the "T" near where the shooting occurred, and pointing toward her residence and porch. ... So the question I have, when Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon Martin, was that because Trayvon Martin ran back to Brandy Green's house ... [More]

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in the video see that when she [Brandy Green] describes what happened and that he [Trayvon] was sitting on her porch, she is at the "T" near where the shooting occurred, and pointing toward her residence and porch.

Seems implausible that she knew he was sitting on the porch but didn't try to tell him to come inside or even check to see what all the hollering by Zimmerman was about or the gunshot sound either or all the emergency responder doings thereafter. Since the porch is roofed, it is plausible that Trayvon would be sitting outside, even though it was raining -- depending on how cold it was in Florida then, the direction of the rain and if he was drenched from walking home.

A few weeks later Tracy Martin is giving an interview. As he is walking with the reporter through the area where everything took place he says: "I knew he (Trayvon) was going to the back of the house, he's sittin out there."

So the question I have, when Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon Martin, was that because Trayvon Martin ran back to Brandy Green's ... This seems possible because both Tracy Martin and Green mention Trayvon Martin sitting on the porch. What did they mean by that?

Also noteworthy, I have never believed that Tracy Martin came home that night and just assumed Trayvon was at the movies. For one thing, Tracy Martin says he arrived home about 10:30 pm. There were only two entries to the complex. It is not believeable that when he came home that he would not notice the cluster of emergency vehicles that were on scene.

It is also not believable that [Brandy's son] Chad would not notice all the commotion, and/or tell Tracy Martin that he did not know where Trayvon was, that he went to the store to get him some Skittles, and has not come back from when he left four hours earlier. ... Also note that this video shows Tracy Martin lying about his actions that night. Jerome Horton (Tracy Martin's high school coach) told CNN that Trayvon Martin called his dad and BEGGED to be able to go to the store to get some snacks. (Trayvon Martin had to beg because Horten said Trayvon was grounded, due to his suspension from school, and he was NOT allowed to go out.)

Seems the answer on the requested permission to go to the store would have been "No" if it was known to be raining. And, since it was rainy that evening, it would not be unusual if he was running to get out of the rain or home before it rained much when Zimmerman reported him to the dispatcher as suspicious for doing that. Seems odd that Zimmerman didn't give that possibility more consideration. Reference: Wikipedia.

Note in this interview the reporter asks Tracy Martin when was the last time he talked to Trayvon. Tracy Martin said it was when he asked him if he had enough money for pizza. He did not mention the supposed phone call on Sunday night, the one that Jerome Horten referred to.

Also strange is that Zimmerman claimed in his reenactment video to be on his way back to his vehicle after not seeing anyone in the area when Trayvon, who could have observed from the porch that he was not being pursued -- that Zimmerman was beyond his housing row and leaving -- suddenly came at him as if he was totally oblivious to the community being Watch Patrolled, which is very doubtful. He had recently moved there, according to the above linked video interview of his father's fiancee, Brandy Green, but was not a complete stranger who'd never visited that neighborhood before. Doubtful, as well, that he would call his dad about going to the store, talk to him on the phone about pizza but not call and tell him that some stalker [Zimmerman] seemed to be roaming around the place menacingly and zeroing in on him.

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