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Title: Nancy Grace Says ‘F**king Coons’ Uncensored While Railing Against Zimmerman’s ‘Hatred’ For Trayvon
Source: MediaIte
URL Source: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-gr ... zimmermans-hatred-for-trayvon/
Published: Jul 15, 2013
Author: Andrew Kirell
Post Date: 2013-07-15 11:42:25 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 671
Comments: 71

While speaking Saturday night with Trayvon Martin‘s family attorney, shortly before the verdict was read for George Zimmerman‘s acquittal, HLN host Nancy Grace said “fucking coons” live on-the-air while railing against what she considers to have been the defendant’s undeniable “hatred” for the teenager he shot.

After Martin family lawyer Daryl Parks made the claim that no one will be happy with the then-upcoming verdict, seeing as how the late teenager will never be brought back to life, Grace stepped in to say that she believes, based on the audio recordings, that Zimmerman had an unquestionable sense of ill will towards the victim:

“I’ll tell you what I think made a difference. When that 9-1-1 tape first came out — and everybody, get ready, this is graphic language — when it first came out that Zimmerman had said ‘fucking coon‘ on the 9-1-1 call, to me, that was open-and-shut that that showed open ill will and hatred. Now they’ve revised it to say he said ‘These punks, they always get away with it.’ I’m wondering if that reinterpretation of what he said made a difference as to a jury finding ill will in Mr. Zimmerman’s heart.”

Parks responded that he believes the jury will likely “come to a compromise” on whether Zimmerman had any form of animosity towards 17-year-old Martin.

In her coverage of the trial, Grace had repeatedly made reference to the “fucking coons” slur she believes Zimmerman clearly said during his call to the non-emergency line of the Sanford Police Department. In a recent interview with the defendant’s friend Joe Oliver, HLN bleeped the hostess out as she repeated the slur on-air, but for whatever reason, they opted not to do so this time around.

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#21. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

When's this race war gonna get rolling? If it doesn't hurry up, I'm throwing my Lum and Abner DVD in the player.

This Fire Alarm Button is a kind of specialism conflagration set used for artificial start in the system of self-motion conflageration.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-07-15   15:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

It was not entered into evidence because the prosecutor never intended for it to be marked as evidence for the jury. Means motive and opportunity is key in this mess and the prosecution knew what they were doing in omitting this. It was my understanding that Zimmerman was originally charged with 2nd degree murder but this was later changed to manslaughter for some reason. See here of page 3 of the Jury instructions. http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Pr...nal_Jury_Instructions.pdf

purplerose  posted on  2013-07-15   15:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: purplerose (#20)

That's a very good question. But Zimmerman should have left that to the cops to follow this boy down.

For the love of God, he was leaving it to the cops. Trayvon ran around and came back to sucker punch the "creepy ass cracker" who was waiting to assist the cops when they arrived at the predetermined location cited on the call to dispatch.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-07-15   15:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso (#21)

Give me another 48-hours bro. The Rev. Al wants 100s of demos in cities across the nation this weekend, and if things continue to accelerate tonight and tomorrow night, you can save Lum and Abner for Labor Day weekend.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   16:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: purplerose (#22) (Edited)

It was not entered into evidence because the prosecutor never intended for it to be marked as evidence for the jury.

Since Murder 2 goes directly to one's state of mind, it would be judicial malfeasance for the prosecution to not introduce the tape if GZ did indeed say coon.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   16:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Esso (#21)

When's this race war gonna get rolling?

I'll miss it no matter how bad it gets, I live in a "white enclave" :(

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-07-15   16:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

Their study, and the fact that it wasn't entered into evidence, convinces me GZ didn't say it.

I think that's an astute analysis and agree.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-07-15   16:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: X-15 (#26)

When's this race war gonna get rolling?

I'll miss it no matter how bad it gets, I live in a "white enclave" :(

Me too.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-07-15   16:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222, Esso (#28)

I guess we'll have to settle for video games:

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-07-15   16:17:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: X-15 (#29)

That is a hoot!!!!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   16:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: X-15 (#26)

I put in my copy of "Them!" as an instructional video. I figure if you can defeat giant rampaging mutant ants, a few pissed-off Purple Drankers oughtta be a cakewalk.

This Fire Alarm Button is a kind of specialism conflagration set used for artificial start in the system of self-motion conflageration.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-07-15   16:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#27)

Thanks Doug.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   16:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Since Murder 2 goes directly to one's state of mind, it would be judicial malfeasance for the prosecution to not introduce the tape if GZ did indeed say coon.

Yeah, and you can bet your ass and whatever else you hold dear that if they could have gotten some audio analysis expert to say that he did say it, no matter whether he did or not, they would have put him on the stand. Just like they put that idiot, Rachel Jeantel on there, the one who didn't believe that creepy ass cracker was a racial insult.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   17:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

www.breitbart.com/Big-Jou...ely-claiming-Fucking-coon

Itistoolate  posted on  2013-07-15   18:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#33)

the one who didn't believe that creepy ass cracker was a racial insult.

She's probably been told since fourth grade (aka last year) that blacks can't be racists.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-07-15   18:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#35)

She's probably been told since fourth grade (aka last year) that blacks can't be racists.

I bet you the longest five years of her life (so far) was second grade.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   18:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Itistoolate (#34)

Please tell me she's a Jew. Please?

Nancy Grace Still Falsely Claiming Zimmerman Said 'F**king Coon'

In March of last year, the day before NBC anchor Al Sharpton's incendiary rally, and just two days before President Obama would launch the George Zimmerman case into the stratosphere with his own racially-tinged comments ("If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."), CNN falsely accused Zimmerman of describing Trayvon as a "f**king coon." Two weeks would pass before CNN retracted this falsehood.

CNN's retraction came  after the audiotape of the 911 call was enhanced and it was clear that what Zimmerman had said was "f**king cold," not any kind of racial slur. In fact, there is nothing in this case or in Zimmerman's past that points to any kind of racism whatsoever.

And yet, a full fifteen months after CNN's audiotape enhancement debunked Zimmerman's use of the word "coon," Nancy Grace, the star and face of CNN's sister network Headline News, is still falsely telling viewers that Zimmerman described Trayvon as a "f**king coon." Moreover, HLN didn't even bleep out the phrase.

Here is Grace inflaming racial tensions with falsehoods Saturday night:

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Grace: "What I think made a difference; when that 911 tape first came out -- and everybody get read, this is graphic language -- when it first came out that Zimmerman had said "f**king coon" on the 911 call.. I mean to me, that was open and shut that that showed ill-will and hatred."

That would be a very insightful comment were it not for the fact that Zimmerman did not say "f**king coon," and it seem impossible to believe that Grace doesn't know this.

Apparently, the left-wing media site Mediaite is also unaware of the fact that Zimmerman did not say "f**king coon." In their coverage of the Grace's statement, they make no mention of the fact that Grace's claim is factually incorrect or that CNN was forced to walk the claim back.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   18:17:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

I think Nancy has lost what little mind she may have had at one time. Probably happened when her fiance, the one she claimed was murdered, came to his senses when he thought about spending the rest of his life with that harpy, and killed himself. Or hired a hit man to do it.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   18:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Here is Grace inflaming racial tensions with falsehoods Saturday night:

I'm no legal-beagle, but don't they call that 'inciting to riot'? Maybe the feds should be looking at her.

I know, I know, just kidding.

This Fire Alarm Button is a kind of specialism conflagration set used for artificial start in the system of self-motion conflageration.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-07-15   18:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Esso (#39)

I'm no legal-beagle, but don't they call that 'inciting to riot'? Maybe the feds should be looking at her.

I know, I know, just kidding.

We used it in NYC, and I'd bet YOUR bottom dollar Sharpton has such a charge on his record.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   18:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: James Deffenbach (#38)

I think Nancy has lost what little mind she may have had at one time. Probably happened when her fiance, the one she claimed was murdered, came to his senses when he thought about spending the rest of his life with that harpy, and killed himself.

LOL!!!!

I think the dude died from a bad batch of Lean.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   18:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

Or maybe he just got "regusted" with Nancy lying about people to boost her career (such as it is) and couldn't take it anymore.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   18:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

We used it in NYC, and I'd bet YOUR bottom dollar Sharpton has such a charge on his record.

Well, I'm just an idiot (see here, for example), but I don't really see what anybody has to gain by inciting riots. I'll bet YOUR bottom dollar that EVERYBODY will lose that fight. Blacks, especially probably.

This Fire Alarm Button is a kind of specialism conflagration set used for artificial start in the system of self-motion conflageration.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-07-15   19:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Esso (#43)

but I don't really see what anybody has to gain by inciting riots

The thing is Whites have no control over their start or end. They are a function of the Darks. They call the shots. As to why they choose to riot, I can't say but it isn't related to their high IQs, that's for sure.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   19:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: James Deffenbach (#33)

Rachel Jeantel

She'll be on Piers Morgan at 9EST, if you can stand it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   19:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: purplerose (#20)

"Why was Trayvon running? Why didn't he just run home?"

"That's a very good question. But Zimmerman should have left that to the cops to follow this boy down."

I don't understand why people keep saying that. Z wasn't ordered by the police not to follow him. He was told by a dispatcher that "we don't need you to do that." Z had every right to follow him. I'm talking about following 100 feet back. Obviously, if someone was walking 5' behind Trayvon, a case could be made that he was provoking him. Anyway, how are you going to know where someone is in a condo complex if you don't follow him --- especially at night?

Do you know that gated condo complex at Mulholland and Calabasas Road by the Motion Picture Home? They have a big lake in there. It's gated everywhere except at one corner by the park. My sidekick and I decided to go for a walk around that lake one day. We got about 1/4 way around when a Mexican security guard started following us. He followed us for approx another 1/2 mile, until we got back to the park exit. He never spoke to us, but he was only about 20 feet behind us the whole time. It was like saying "I know you don't live here, and I'll just follow you around the lake until you find your way out again." We felt sort of bad about it at the time, because we didn't live there. But now, after hearing how your side thinks the world is supposed to work, I guess I should have slammed my fist into his face and banged his head on the sidewalk.

Anyway, IIRC, you and 5 milllion other Americans left Los Angeles because the cops turned it into a sanctuary city and Mexican sewer. Yet here you are promoting the idea that we should let the cops handle all the suspicious person incidents. I disagree. I don't know why the cops were called in the first place. There aren't enough cops to check out every suspicous person that walks through a condo complex. And the cops have already made a big enough mess of everything as it is. If you can't see that, who can?

Big Meanie  posted on  2013-07-15   19:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: abraxas (#23)

Trayvon would never have turned around to sucker punch some guy carrying a gun if the guy was not following Trayvon in the first place. Secondly, this incident took place on a public sidewalk...not private property. One of the other reasons why the dispatcher advised Zimmerman to not follow Trayvon has to deal with a legal matter concerning forseeability of injury. They knew that his following Trayvon was concerned a high risk to both Zimmerman and Trayvon.

purplerose  posted on  2013-07-15   20:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Big Meanie (#46)

He was told by a dispatcher that "we don't need you to do that."

And just what do you think that "we don't need you to do that" meant? I know exactly what that meant. I understand that fully well in legal sense.

purplerose  posted on  2013-07-15   20:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: purplerose (#48)

And just what do you think that "we don't need you to do that" meant? I know exactly what that meant. I understand that fully well in legal sense.

We don't need you to do that is NOT an ORDER. At most it is a suggestion.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

She'll be on Piers Morgan at 9EST, if you can stand it.

I can't stand her Purple Drank ass or Piers Morgan either.

Here is something she said back in April:

On April 21, she wrote, “I do not know if I want to be a homicide detective u got to tell the family they love one died n shit they crying n shit oh lord I dnt kno.”

And you gots to learn English and quit speakin' de ebonics and shit, oh lawd!

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   20:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#49)

We don't need you to do that is NOT an ORDER. At most it is a suggestion.

And one that Zimmerman chose to ignore and take matters into his own hands.

This is not over people. The DOJ is now looking into this more in depth. And if not the parents may still bring this lawsuit in the Florida Supreme Court and all the way up to the United States Supreme Court. One of the legal issues I would address in the Petition for a Writ of Certiorari would be this:

1) When may the "Stand Your Ground Law" be applied as a legal ground for defense on a public sidewalk regarding a confrontation between two people where one person initiates the confrontation causing the other party to react in self-defense?

purplerose  posted on  2013-07-15   20:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: purplerose (#51)

I don't encourage the DOJ getting involved in this thing after the jury found G Z not guilty. What part of that is hard for people to understand? Did white people riot and burn shit down when O.J. slit Nicole's throat from ear to ear and killed Ron Goldman? While it is true that Ron's parents sued his murdering ass in civil court and won a judgment against him so far as I know they never got a penny.

And Trayvon initiated that confrontation, at least according to the evidence. When he could have gone on home in the FOUR MINUTES he had when Zimmerman didn't even know where he was, he chose instead to sucker punch him and try to beat his head off on the sidewalk. I can't imagine why you are taking up for him.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   20:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: purplerose (#51)

And one that Zimmerman chose to ignore and take matters into his own hands.

mmm, no. When they told him that he said ok and walked back to his truck (according to the evidence). Then Saint Trayvon sucker punched him about four minutes later thereby initiating the contact and paying the price for it.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   20:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: purplerose (#51) (Edited)

Stand your ground wasn't invoked by Zs defense in this matter.

It was straight self defense.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-07-15   20:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: purplerose (#48)

"And just what do you think that 'we don't need you to do that' meant?"

I interpret that to mean that they'd prefer that I didn't do that. But as far as I can tell, that wasn't an order. And even if it was an order, who cares? As far as I know, dispatchers can't give orders.

I don't care if a cop said "we don't need you to do that" either. After what they've done to my town, I could care less what the cops think is best. All that matters is what the law says. If Zimmerman was legally allowed to follow someone, that's all that matters.

That said, if a cop ORDERS me not to follow someone, I'm not going to argue with him, even if I knew that I was legally allowed to do something. If it turns out to be a big deal, I'd file a complaint.

Big Meanie  posted on  2013-07-15   20:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

"Piers Morgan"

According to an X-15 article posted today, he has a title now: "butt-sniffing noodlehead Piers Morgan"

Big Meanie  posted on  2013-07-15   20:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Big Meanie (#56)

LOL. Sounds like a good title for him.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-15   21:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: purplerose (#47)

Trayvon would never have turned around to sucker punch some guy carrying a gun if the guy was not following Trayvon in the first place. Secondly, this incident took place on a public sidewalk...not private property.

First, Trayvon ran away. He had no business returning to assault the "creepy ass cracker" and he should have just ran home.

Yes, Trayvon assaulted the "creepy ass cracker" on a public sidewalk thinking that he could simply beat the shit out of him and run along home. He thought wrong and this was a fatal mistake.

Why did he need to assault him? Is violence the only solution?

I've been followed before and I don't hunt the person down and assault them. I get the hell out of there. And if I am assaulted, I also have a CCW and would defend myself--in private and in public. Self defense is the point of a CCW.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-07-15   21:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: James Deffenbach (#52) (Edited)

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/...-law-as-it-stands/2131594

The most productive way to channel the frustration with the verdict is to change Florida's "stand your ground" law to recognize that individuals who initiate confrontations are not then immune from responsibility of the consequences. Legitimate self-defense cases would still be protected, but it would remove the near-amnesty that people have to act recklessly, putting themselves and others in harm's way. The law as it stands is an invitation to more bloodshed and heartache, and a society more divided. [emphasis added in bold]

I agree with the above quote by the editor's commentary on the Florida Stand Your Ground Law. It makes sense to me. When Zimmerman got out of his vehicle, he put himself in potential danger and harms way and by his recklessness to pursue Trayvon Martin, makes him (George Zimmerman) the one who initiated the confrontation...not Trayvon. This is what I have been saying all along concerning the police dispatcher who advised George to not follow Trayvon.

purplerose  posted on  2013-07-15   22:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: purplerose (#59)

This is what I have been saying all along concerning the police dispatcher who advised George to not follow Trayvon.

He said "ok" and stopped the pursuit, then Trayvon ran back to assault him. The confrontation was the assault, not the pursuit which was already done with.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-07-15   23:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: purplerose (#59)

I agree with the above quote by the editor's commentary on the Florida Stand Your Ground Law. It makes sense to me. When Zimmerman got out of his vehicle, he put himself in potential danger and harms way and by his recklessness to pursue Trayvon Martin, makes him (George Zimmerman) the one who initiated the confrontation...not Trayvon. This is what I have been saying all along concerning the police dispatcher who advised George to not follow Trayvon.

Well, I disagree with you and I disagree with the folks who want to abolish any self defense law. Stand your ground law makes sense because people who have done nothing wrong have no duty to retreat from an aggressor (which in this case was Trayvon Martin). I see you finally are agreeing that the dispatcher did not ORDER Zimmerman to do or not do anything.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-07-16   0:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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