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Title: George Zimmerman Trial Juror #b37 Does Interview With Her Identity Concealed
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdSZw2-C18
Published: Jul 15, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-07-15 23:24:10 by Horse
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Comments: 33
Poster Comment: This juror clears up a lot that the media said but was not true.
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
worth listening to bump
www.cnn.com/2013/07/15/justice/zi...?hpt=hp_t1 (CNN) -- One of the jurors who acquitted George Zimmerman said she had "no doubt" he feared for his life in the final moments of his struggle with Trayvon Martin, and that was the definitive factor in the verdict. The juror spoke to CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" on Monday night. Her identity was concealed. She said she believed Zimmerman's "heart was in the right place" the night he killed Martin, but that he didn't use "good judgment" in confronting the Florida teen. "I think George Zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done.But I think his heart was in the right place. It just went terribly wrong," she said. If anything, Zimmerman was guilty of not using "good judgment," the juror said. "When he was in the car, and he had called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car," she said. She also said she believes Martin threw the first punch in their confrontation. ____________________________________________________________________ So the Juror believe zimmerman was guilty but that it was ok... because his heart was in the right place when he was murdering trayvon. Trayvon was being stalked and followed in his own neighborhood by some stranger he did not know, who came up to him. If stand your ground law has an application surely trayvon had a right to stand his ground if George was the aggressor.... we can not be sure that is the truth... but we can be sure it was not Zimmerman begging for his life. Of this we can be certain. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
you obviously didn't LISTEN to the whole interview. he didn't break the friggin' law. that was what was judged in the case. she said many many times that they all believed it was SELF DEFENSE on Zimmerman's part.
What? I quoted the article? ^^ Anyways I have issue with a juror that can employee double think. Either he was wrong or he was right but he was not both. Contrary to what the Juror says Zimmerman did not have any good intentions in his heart when he was murdering Martin. usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...ermans-2-experts-say?lite HE was not the one begging for his life. ....... YOu know... so many focused on race with this whole trial.... too few focused on age.... Trayvon could barely grow peach fuzz on his scraggly face. Zimmerman being a man of sufficient age should of been able to discern that and handled himself better.... instead he killed a kid. Trayvon was not old enough to vote. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Out of all the dumb things you have posted here--and that takes in a lot of ground--surely this is one of the dumbest. Why in hell would Trayvon have been begging for his life when he was on top of Zimmerman pounding on him? Would you be yelling for help if you had the upper hand and think you were winning the fight, the one you started when you sucker punched a guy and broke his nose? Not very likely. Paul Craig Roberts
But he was old enough to take drugs ("lean") that made him paranoid and agitated enough to sucker punch a guy and break his nose. Never fool yourself that 17 year olds can't and don't kill people. Paul Craig Roberts
"we"? And if not having "good judgment" was a criminal offense, we'd all be doing 20 to life. Including you. Of this we can be certain. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
you've gotta be sh!tting me. what don't you get about Trayvon being the one on top of Zimmerman pounding the crap out of him? Zimmerman was on his way back to his car when Trayvon attacked him. there is nothing illegal about following someone, btw. do you understand the law in this case? there was no proof by the prosecution that it was anything but self defense on Zimmerman's part.
She also said that there were "fabrications" and "enhancements" in what zimmerman said on tape but that she believed his version of the story. If she thinks that Zimmerman lied then why is she treating his story as credible???
instead he killed a kid. Trayvon was not old enough to vote. People are guilty of bad judgment every frickin' day......that doesn't mean they are breaking the law. However, bad judgment can lead people to break the law. Trayvon may not have been old enough to vote but he was old enough for assault. The assault based on the assumption that the "creepy ass cracker" was unarmed was bad judgment on his part that led to his death. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Physical evidence on Zimmerman of the beating. Eye witness accounts of the beating. Testimony from the detectives working the case. Did you not watch the video of the juror explaining how the jury came to their decision? " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
He didn't lie, as per the lead detective and other *prosecution* witnesses. They, and I, would submit to you that it is impossible to give seven interviews (all the while waiving his Miranda rights) that were the same, word for word. If they were the same, then I’d consider lying a possibility. The key here is were there any substantial differences in Zs recantations. That answer is no.
Excellent - thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I watched the whole thing and there is a part where she uses the words I quoted to indicate that Zimmerman was not telling the truth. Since there was no opportunity to cross-examine Zimmerman on the stand, whether you believe Zimmerman is truthful in the video re-enactment of his version of what happened is pretty important. The claim that Trayvon threw the first punch is not supported by any evidence other than Zimmerman's word. If Zimmerman is not credible then we should not draw that conclusion. The injury to the back of Zimmerman's head supports the claim that Trayvon was on top during some portion of the fight but it does not absolutely prove that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman and beating Zimmerman in the moment's prior to Zimmerman pulling the trigger.
She used the word "fabrication" which implies deliberately lying, not just variation in story due to multiple retellings.
Once again...it is supported by the injuries Zimmerman sustained. It is supported by eye witness testimony. It is supported by the calls to the police. It is supported by the detectives who worked the case. The evidence OVERWHELMINGLY supports Zimmerman's account. What evidence supports Zimmerman was not attacked? What evidence supports Trayvon was attacked? Trayvon had ONE INJURY--a bullet in his chest. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Ballistics on where the bullet went in, blood splattered, items around the area all prove that Travon was on top when he was shot. Again, the evidence is OVERWHELMING in support of Trayvon beating the shit out of Zimmerman and Zimmerman acting in self defense? Again, what evidence supports your contention the poor little innocent Trayvon was assualted? Emoting doesn't count. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
B37's perspective into what actually happened, and I assume the rest of the jury too, is spot on. They both made mistakes but in the end it was TM's actions that caused his own death.
#2. To: Horse (#0)
#3. To: titorite (#2)
#4. To: christine (#3)
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#5. To: titorite (#2)
we can be sure it was not Zimmerman begging for his life. Of this we can be certain.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#6. To: titorite (#4)
Trayvon was not old enough to vote.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#7. To: titorite, 4 (#2)
but we can be sure it was not Zimmerman begging for his life. Of this we can be certain.
#8. To: titorite (#4)
YOu know... so many focused on race with this whole trial.... too few focused on age.... Trayvon could barely grow peach fuzz on his scraggly face. Zimmerman being a man of sufficient age should of been able to discern that and handled himself better.... instead he killed a kid. Trayvon was not old enough to vote.
#9. To: titorite (#2)
#10. To: titorite (#4)
Either he was wrong or he was right but he was not both.
#11. To: strepsiptera (#9)
If she thinks that Zimmerman lied then why is she treating his story as credible???
#12. To: strepsiptera (#9)
#13. To: Horse (#0)
#14. To: abraxas (#11)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#16. To: strepsiptera (#14)
The claim that Trayvon threw the first punch is not supported by any evidence other than Zimmerman's word.
#17. To: strepsiptera (#14)
does not absolutely prove that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman and beating Zimmerman in the moment's prior to Zimmerman pulling the trigger.
#18. To: Horse (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#19. To: strepsiptera, all. (#9)
What he really said: "Help! Help! I'm being punked by a negro! He's making me his bitch! Help! Mommy! Daddy! Help!" "fabrications" and "enhancements" in what zimmerman said on tape
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#20. To: strepsiptera (#15)
Not to run you around in a circle, but who used the word fabrication, and at what point in the trial did this evidence appear? She used the word "fabrication" which implies deliberately lying, not just variation in story due to multiple retellings.
#21. To: titorite (#4)
How would GZ know how old he was? Did Trayvon show his ID? Btw, you've got things assbackwards. GZ was a homeowner in that complex. Martin wasn't. He had just moved there from miami after getting suspended from school for the 2nd time in 6 months. The boy couldn't keep his shit together and got dumped in his father's girlfriend's lap by his parents.
Support bacteria.
(The world needs more culture)
#22. To: strepsiptera (#14)
And his bloody and (appeared to be) broken nose. Zimmerman never had any bruises on his knuckles indicating he threw any punch, let alone the first one. The claim that Trayvon threw the first punch is not supported by any evidence other than Zimmerman's word.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#23. To: James Deffenbach, strepsiptera (#22)
Why would a crazed, hate filled white (hispanic) vigilante armed with a pistol looking to kill a poor innocent ten year old black child like Trayvon even bother with fisticuffs? /s See where tailoring the narrative to fit pre-concieved notions leads us?
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#24. To: Dakmar (#23)
And why would a hate filled white hispanic vigilante allow the innocent ten year old to beat the shit out of him before he pulled out his gun and shot the little miscreant mofo? Why would a crazed, hate filled white (hispanic) vigilante armed with a pistol looking to kill a poor innocent ten year old black child like Trayvon even bother with fisticuffs? /s
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#25. To: Dakmar (#23)
Missed an essential adjective Dak........ Why would a crazed, hat filled white (hispanic) vigilante CRACKA.... Isn't that better? Why would a crazed, hate filled white (hispanic) vigilante
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#26. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
Maybe GZ was (dis)armed with the fool notion that most people are civilized and rational.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#27. To: abraxas (#25)
I'm going to put that on a t-shirt. Unless you've trademarked it, that is. vigilante CRACKA
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#28. To: abraxas (#27)
Can I get Florence Henderson to sing the jingle for my new fashion line? "The Cracka's Got a Certain, Vigilantity..."
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#29. To: Dakmar (#27)
No, no trade mark on that one. I would like a small black t-shirt with white CRACKA lettering please and be sure to use a shakey font. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#30. To: Dakmar (#28)
LOL.......if you can't get Florence due to any schedule conflict, I shall sing it for you. "The Cracka's Got a Certain, Vigilantity..."
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#31. To: abraxas (#30)
I'll have my agent call your agent, we'll have to clear all this with continuity and costume leasing first. LOL.......if you can't get Florence due to any schedule conflict, I shall sing it for you.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#32. To: christine (#3)
You, and evidently the jurors are not conforming to Lod's request to cut this young boy some slack cause your smarter than him and he's 30 years younger. While I understand his cognitive disadvantage is a severe handicap, I think you and the jurors can cancel his disadvantage of youth (since when is 35 a youth) with the fact that you're women. you obviously didn't LISTEN to the whole interview. he didn't break the friggin' law. that was what was judged in the case. she said many many times that they all believed it was SELF DEFENSE on Zimmerman's part.
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#33. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
In the interview with the juror posted at the top of this thread, she is asked whtat she thought of the Zimmerman re-enectment video. At 11:57 she says that there were fabrications and enhancements. She then says she agrees with Zimmerman on almost every point of fact including points on which you have to rely heavily on Zimmerman's word.
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