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Title: Evidence of Major Cataclysm on Mars Which Would Have Destroyed Any Life
Source: Intellihub
URL Source: http://intellihub.com/2013/07/20/ev ... would-have-destroyed-any-life/
Published: Jul 20, 2013
Author: John Black
Post Date: 2013-07-20 19:27:10 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Mars, Cataclysm, Catastrophe, Catastrophism
Views: 133
Comments: 8

Analysis of data collected by the Mars Curiosity Rover has shown that a cataclysmic event would have resulted in the end of life on the surface of Mars.

Photo: NASA

Photo: NASA

By John Black
Ancient Origins
July 20, 2013

The event could be related to volcanos or a massive collision of some sort that would have completely destroyed the atmosphere. To make it clear, there is evidence that on Mars billions of years ago, there was an atmosphere rich in oxygen and recently the Mars Curiosity team also found proof of water (which may still exist underground). The measurements of different gases in the Martian atmosphere and a comparison to Earth’s, showed that the event must have happened about 4 billion years ago.

You would think that such a suggestion is new, well think again. In October 28th of 1909, more than 100 years ago, an article in New York Times had the title ‘Life on Mars ended by a cataclysm’. British scientists published an article in the Journal of the British Astronomical Association, suggesting that a major cataclysm destroyed life on Mars. In 1892 Mars was close to Earth and astronomical observations revealed a gloomy, yellow veil and immense tracts on the Martian surface. Scientists then suggested that “if the markings have disappeared and the yellow veil has covered immense tracts on the surface there must have been some catastrophe on a gigantic scale, a cataclysm with violent earthquakes”. It was that period of time when Lowell suggested a theory that Mars was inhabited by a race of living beings.

Well it is now clear that the observations of 100 years ago are in line with the discovery made by the Curiosity Rover on Mars – taking out the estimated time period in which the cataclysm happened which would have been impossible back in 1892 without a clear view  from the surface of Mars. I do not know who deserves the congratulations the scientists 100 years ago with no high-tech devices for researching or the scientists today with all the top technology and actual samples from Mars?

What if extraterrestrial life did exist on Mars when there was atmosphere and let’s suppose that they were at least as advanced as our civilization. What would they have done when they discovered that a cataclysm is coming? Well, probably what we do on Earth, build underground cities for the few to survive or if they were more advanced to transfer their cities into a different dimension where they would remain unaffected. Sound like science fiction? Perhaps it is, but the idea is still an intriguing one.


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What intrigues me as much is how far back in time did this really happen? I say that because the late Immanuel Velikovsky wrote a couple of books on the subject - "Worlds In Collision" being one.

Velikovsky's argument, as backed by geology and surviving legends, places the event on the edge of recorded history. The Thunderbolts Project LINK has taken Velikovsky's research and run with it. While I do not necessarily agree with everything they have to say they nevertheless have some interesting stuff to say, look at, and chew over.

Human history suggests, via myth and legend, that mankind has been around a lot, and I mean a LOT, longer than our Darwinistic, Materialistic, lamestream would have us believe. So, what if? What if events that have shaped our world, its people, and its worldview have been events that spanned the length and breadth of the Solar System?(1 image)

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)

Mars is covered with craters and has a huge extinct volcano. Being near the asteroid belt and Jupiter have probably given it a pummeling. It also has two moons that studies suggest may be hallow. Maybe a giant asteroid destroyed a single moon, and pelted the surface. Debris could coalesce into two small moons.
Could explain why pieces of Mars (Martian meteors) are found here.
Or maybe runaway volcanism doomed the planet.

I have wondered if there is an Elder Race. Maybe the Martians hallowed out their moons to survive, if they were advanced enough. Maybe they made their way to Earth. 4 billion years ago Earth had only microbial life.


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Armadillo  posted on  2013-07-20   20:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

What if extraterrestrial life did exist on Mars when there was atmosphere and let’s suppose that they were at least as advanced as our civilization. What would they have done when they discovered that a cataclysm is coming?

Escape to Earth perhaps?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-07-20   20:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Armadillo (#1) (Edited)

I have wondered if there is an Elder Race. Maybe the Martians hallowed out their moons to survive, if they were advanced enough. Maybe they made their way to Earth. 4 billion years ago Earth had only microbial life.

Interesting that you should mention the Martian moons. Based on their orbital period and proximity to the planet they have been theorized, by those willing to think outside the box, to be hollow. Possibly what are known as "Generation Starships". The basic concept is that you take a sufficiently large asteroid, mine out its interior, supply power and space drives and wa la a starship which can be made self sufficient over generations and take an entire colony from sar to star. (Which were theorized and talked about here in the 1950's - and later. Although the Russians had a probe fly close by one and the film that leaked out shows the probe being "collected". The transmission cut off just as it entered the open mouth of the ship scooping it up. There have been several good science fiction yarns which used the concept for the setting of a story. Robert Heinlein comes to mind in that regard. As does Robert C. Clarke.) There are a couple of interesting articles, with photos of one of the Martian moons, on Richard Hoagland's website: enterprisemission.com

The Asteroid Belt is another question. By Bode's Law there should be another planet where the Asteroid Belt is circling. Some have theorized that it was a planet that for whatever reason broke up. While modern lamestream "science" has tried to pooh-pooh the idea it has never really been proven or disproven.

One of the great recurring conceits of our culture is that we already know it all and that any disagreement with lamestream though is, by definition, kookery. I would however point at the U.S. Patent Office having been closed for a time in the 1880's because everything that could be invented had already been invented.

One can look at different pronouncements of the scientific authorities over the last several centuries and see a recurring them of rejection of new ideas or new ways of looking at things that do not agree with the pronouncements uff der authorities:

French Academy of Science in the 1700's: "Rocks don't fall from the sky." A pronouncement made regarding the existence of meteorites.

I've recounted lists of them from time to time but the point is that the current state of our knowledge of the physical universe, how it operates, and an explanation of how it operates is not definitive, and is subject to change. Usually over the dead bodies of the existing scientific establishment.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-07-20   20:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Escape to Earth perhaps?

Very possible IMHO. The broken Arcologies that appear to litter the Martian surface suggest that there was, at one time, a rather substantial population on Mars. Perhaps they could well have been our distant ancestors. ???

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-07-20   20:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Really interesting article OI

Thanks for the great read there!

Also checked the site the article originated. Just to say, it has become my new favorite site :o)

Unrelated but worth the look!

ancient-origins.net/ancie...hauvet-been-decoded-00546

The 25 Rules of Disinformation

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

SilverStorm  posted on  2013-07-21   3:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SilverStorm (#5)

De rien.

Your link was interesting as well.

Here is another one that is a repository for all sorts of stuff: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_tema.htm

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-07-21   4:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Perhaps they could well have been our distant ancestors. ???

They may have been the "gods" of ancient lore.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-07-21   15:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#7) (Edited)

Entirely possible. Insufficient data at this time. As I have commented before I firmly believe, from the available evidence at Giza and elsewhere, that we have had at least one prior technologically advanced civilization on this planet. Now, how the decline of any prior civilizations came about is speculation at this point, but I believe that there is a body of evidence suggesting war. David Hatcher Childress laid out the case in his two part article for Nexus Magazine which illustrates nicely the evidence for that possibility.

The cratering seen in Martian photos, particularly where some of Arcologies were hit, suggests the possibility of interplanetary warfare in the distant past.

Of course Immanuel Velikovsky had a different viewpoint vis a vis the intrusion into our Solar System of wandering planets and planetoids. Also a possibility and the supporters of his viewpoint have compiled a large body of supporting information.

I see no reason why both cannot be true.

Certainly I agree with you that we have been visited, and are subject to ongoing visits, by other more technologically advanced civilizations and thus the "Ancient Gods" theories.

And again I see no reason why that cannot be true along with the other two possibilities. They are not mutually exclusive.

As well, in my own private reading and research, there seems to be a body of evidence and hints that there is an ongoing suppression of knowledge of those past events. There we get into an even more speculative realm of secret knowledge and secret societies. Those rumors are so persistent, and the hints strong enough, that I think there is some there, there.

However, my own conclusions are inferences connecting the dots are too speculative and tenuous to offer publicly since most people have been "trained" to regard those possibilities as beyond belief, "conspiracy theories", and are not things to look at or even consider as possibilities. Thus the "Knowledge Filter", as Michael Cremo calls it, is cemented firmly into place. In the end it is simply another name for "Perception Management". Personally I look at and consider most everything and always ask not, "What do other people think?", but "What is the evidence?"

"When all else is eliminated whatever is left, however improbable, is the truth." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Via the voice of Sherlock Holmes.)

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-07-21   19:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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