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Title: Zimmerman juror from Chicago speaks out: He 'got away with murder'
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Published: Jul 25, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-07-25 15:38:33 by Horse
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A juror in the George Zimmerman trial who had recently moved to Florida from Chicago said today that Zimmerman "got away with murder" for killing Trayvon Martin and feels she owes an apology to Martin's parents. "You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," the woman, identified only as Juror B29 during the trial, told ABC's "Good Morning America. "We had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence." She said the evidence, under Florida law, did not prove murder. The court has sealed the jurors' identities. While she allowed her face to be shown during the interview, she used only a first name of Maddy. The woman is a nursing assistant and mother of eight children. She was living in Chicago when Martin was killed and was selected as a juror five months after moving to Seminole County, Fla. She is 36 and Puerto Rican, the only minority among the five women on the jury. Zimmerman, 29, is Hispanic and Martin, 17, was black. But Maddy insisted that the case was never about race, at least to her. "George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy told the show. When the jury began deliberations, Maddy said she favored convicting Zimmerman of second-degree murder, which could have put him in prison for the rest of his life. The jury was also allowed to consider manslaughter, a lesser charge. "I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said. But on the second day of deliberations, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law. Zimmerman admitted he shot and killed Martin on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintained he fired in self-defense. "That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty." The juror said she has had trouble adjusting to life after the verdict, and has wrestled with whether she made the right decision. "I felt like I let a lot of people down, and I'm thinking to myself, 'Did I go the right way? Did I go the wrong way?'" she said. "As much as we were trying to find this man guilty. . .they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth. And the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told." She said she believes she owes Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she feels "like I let them down." "It's hard for me to sleep, it's hard for me to eat because I feel I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death. And as I carry him on my back, I'm hurting as much Trayvon's Martin's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said. Maddy is the second juror to speak in a televised interview, and the first to show her face. Juror B37, whose face and body were hidden, appeared last week on Anderson Cooper's CNN show, and said she believes Zimmerman's "heart was in the right place" when he became suspicious of Martin and that the teenager probably threw the first punch. Since then, four other jurors distanced themselves from B37's remarks and released a statement saying B37's opinions were "not in any way representative" of their own. Poster Comment: Zimmerman is not white. He could not be convicted because there was no evidence. But I wonder why they had an all woman jury. Maybe they were looking for people like this woman.
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#245. To: abraxas (#240)
I acknowledge the fact that he has wounds. How he got those wounds I very much contest images.digitalmedianet.co..._USA-FLORIDA-SHOOTING.JPG cause those are not the wounds made from fists.... a rock ball fist did not cut the tip of that mans nose. And look how clean the insides of his nostrols are... pretty good for being broken and what not eh? ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
I do not over use the term tyranny. IT only seems that way to those beguiled by it. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Geez, let it go, man. The kid was a little punk that was high on lean (a ghetto get high using Robitussin) and was searching for a house to burglarize. He got caught, got anxious, and got killed. Not guilty, Zimmerman walks. Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool. – Plato (429-347 BC)
To slam Zimmermans head. Martin would of either of been punching in the forhead area with zimmermans head over the corner of the concrete side walk there... not the flat pavement but the corner.... cause that cut on the back of his head is an even cut. TWO If trayvon grabed zimmermans by the ears and sides of the head, DIGGING his fingers and nails into zimmerman to smash his head repeatedly.... the damage to zim would of been alot worse... and tary would of need to be alot stronger... Zimmer would of over powered him. Sigh,,, The truth is plane to those that have ears to listen and eyes to see. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Not guilty, Zimmerman walks. I have not exactly been a heavy commenter on these threads. and you can not get high on robbitussen. That is a lie. The key ingredient in lean is promethazen you can mix it with anything and say that is lean... but robbatussen is NOT lean... Jewish media has sold this lie. Jewish medai ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Please link to the information source that proves Zimmerman's Dad and Grandfather were Jews. What I've read is that Zimmerman's father is a Baptist. Baptist is not a church I'd choose to join if I were a "crypto" Jew, that's for sure. And fyi - it's Zimmerman's mother who is the Catholic, not Zimmerman's Dad. If you are going to spin a tall tale about Zimmerman's Dad and Grandfather being crypto Jew Catholics, at least get a couple of facts right to sound somewhat credible. Sheesh. Idiot. As for Jewish owned media - that's no secret - but if Zimmerman were a "crypto" Jew, as you claim, you'd think the Jewish owned media would protect one of their own, no? Instead the MSM has tarred and feathered Zimmerman with innuendo and out and out lies and treachery ( releasing doctored 911 tapes). MSM has been sanitizing Trayvon Martin's actions and character from the get go. Once again your version of logic shows no logical sequential thought whatsoever.
www.cryptojews.com/Ornish.htm I believe the fucker was puller over out side of dallas today.. HOld on let me find you something more tangible. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Oh fuck... I cant find my references right now..... and I got shit to do.... but fuck. I have no idea how yall listen to the same 911 tape I do and come to yalls conclusion of it all being just fine.... From there , their is just a whole mountain of evidence against the guilty/innocent party. Domestic violence, purjury, Hell did yall watch zimmerman instruct his wife on how to hide the money while he was in jail? The fucker was on camera knew he was being recorded and just went on balls to the walls like the fucking snake that his kind are. AND JEANTEL? Why the fuck wasn't Jeantel ejected from the court for being disrespectful to the court? The judge? That judge needs to be brought up on charges and kicked out of judge duties for swearing in Zim against his constitutional rights!! The whole fucking things sucked. tyranny.... fight it!!!! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Kinda like Englishman Lee Rigby being killed by those two imported-moolies in London and you went on and on and on, crowing that It Did Not Happen and it was a *false-flag event!!* but you couldn't provide ONE shred of believable evidence to back up your frantic proclamation??? Do tell...... At least you are acknowledging the physical evidence of Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman.
#246. To: abraxas (#243)
Your overuse of the term tyranny is causing the term to diminish in value.
#247. To: titorite (#245)
#248. To: abraxas (#244)
The hair/head slam angle is of what relevance? Bald folks cannot have their head slammed into concrete because it breaks what specific law of physics?
#249. To: noone222 (#247)
Geez, let it go, man. The kid was a little punk that was high on lean (a ghetto get high using Robitussin) and was searching for a house to burglarize. He got caught, got anxious, and got killed.
#250. To: titorite (#237)
But it is a jewish owned media...and Zimmerman is one of those crypto jews whos daddy and grand daddy were jews... but him.. no. no no no TV says he is catholic their fore he is.
#251. To: scrapper2 (#250)
#252. To: All (#251)
#253. To: titorite (#248)
The truth is plane to those that have ears to listen and eyes to see.
-Alex Kurtagic
#254. To: X-15 (#253)
What? Rigby, with the red tint hands that you can't see X-15... Do you use a CRT moniter? is that why you could not see the clear tint? IT was square for crying out loud.
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#255. To: titorite (#237)
You are delusional.
#256. To: titorite (#252)
This is really shocking. lol Oh fuck... I cant find my references right now..... and I got shit to do....
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#257. To: titorite (#237)
I don't want to hurt your feelings, but "their for"?? There isn't even a meme for that one. 😉
#258. To: titorite (#252) (Edited)
Would that be Baptist or Catholic? Or do you mean his Peruvian heritage? BTW, perhaps you should have the doc change your meds, whatever it is you're on isn't making you better. Since it's so "obvious" to you that Zimmerman was chasing Martin around the neighborhood from house to house, and poor little Trayvon was screaming for help the entire time, can you find any links to ANY source that confirms or alludes to what you are alledging? I mean there HAS to be SOMEONE out there who agrees with you and can confirm what you are stating here, if you aren't just making this up that is. like the fucking snake that his kind are
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#259. To: abraxas, titorite (#240)
The question is still on the table, I do believe. How many strikes do you think an armed man should take prior to using the firearm for self defense? What is the magic number?
-Alex Kurtagic
#260. To: FormerLurker (#258)
Before I read your post I was thinking "is this person on meth or what" ??? Glad I'm not the only one. BTW, perhaps you should have the doc change your meds, whatever it is you're on isn't making you better.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#261. To: titorite (#252)
Because she was the prosecution's star witness. The same prosecution that went forward with no grand jury. The same prosecution that railroaded the police chief who didn't file charges against Zimmerman because there was NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE to substantiate charges and bring about a conviction. This is why public emoting is not a valid reason to take a case to trial. Isn't it time you question your own emoting over this case? Why the fuck wasn't Jeantel ejected from the court for being disrespectful to the court?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#262. To: noone222 (#260) (Edited)
Glad I'm not the only one. Meth, crack, Sterno, Lean, Prozac, Thorazine, Jim Beam, perhaps all combined into one big punch bowl. Before I read your post I was thinking "is this person on meth or what" ???
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#263. To: FormerLurker (#262)
You forgot that old standby, Ripple (is that still sold?) :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#264. To: X-15 (#263)
Haven't seen it around for quite some time... I can't decide what gave me worse hangovers, that or Boon's Farm. Ripple (is that still sold?) :)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#265. To: FormerLurker (#262)
Glad I'm not the only one. Meth, crack, Sterno, Lean, Prozac, Thorazine, Jim Beam, perhaps all combined into one big punch bowl. If he was doing all of that then I doubt he would even be posting on this forum. He fits the M.O. of a troll, so I assume he is one. Before I read your post I was thinking "is this person on meth or what" ???
God is always good!
#266. To: christine, 4 (#257)
#267. To: RickyJ (#265)
I thought that of him a year ago. My opinion hasn't changed one bit. He fits the M.O. of a troll, so I assume he is one.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#268. To: noone222 (#260)
Glad I'm not the only one. Well that was just freaking rude. I expect that kind of shit from his kind (former lurker is the shill) but not you noone. Fuck me if I did anything to wrong you to merit such foul thoughts. Before I read your post I was thinking "is this person on meth or what" ???
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#269. To: X-15 (#259)
The question is still on the table, I do believe. George bush would say zero . That pre-emptively striking your opponent because he was About to strike you (maybe) is justified. I would say one. Once you crossed the line it is crossed. But the menance should be real... Not just a woman slapping you one time... I don't think trayvon got a hit in on zimm. I think zimm fucked himself up so he could sell that self defense bullshit. I just do not see any evidence for a four finger knuckle sandwich anywhere on his face. The holes in his nose tip look like pin needle pricks. Like he had a corn cob holder handy and stabbed his nose with it. How many strikes do you think an armed man should take prior to using the firearm for self defense? What is the magic number?
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#270. To: christine (#255)
No. I am not delusional. In fact I refuse to drink from the crazy well. You are delusional.
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#271. To: FormerLurker (#258)
I think you should make yourself more familiar with the subject matter you are speaking on. IT was a duplex condo community. And you will have to forgive the lie about trayvon hiding from the rain. It was not raining that night. Their was no rain on the cop cars when they took in Zimmerman. Zimmermans coat was not wet. The blood was not washed off the back of his head because their was no rain . It was not raining that night. The rain is a lie.... like many things in thsi foul case. So learn more about it government operative. Nah I'm just kidding lurker... I know you know all about it and I know what your job here in this thread is... I just wish you wouldn't do it... your job I mean. Since it's so "obvious" to you that Zimmerman was chasing Martin around the neighborhood from house to house, and poor little Trayvon was screaming for help the entire time
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#272. To: titorite (#268)
Often times our anger causes us to forget that disciplined responses are required of us rather than vitriolic outbursts.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#273. To: titorite, christine (#270)
No. I am not delusional. hahahahahahaha .... You are delusional.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#274. To: noone222 (#272)
It's cool, lord knows I have been guilty myself. Often times our anger causes us to forget that disciplined responses are required of us rather than vitriolic outbursts.
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#275. To: titorite, abraxas (#269)
!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody, anywhere, has suggested that George Zimmerman faked his injuries, including the Sanford Police who interviewed him afterwards.I don't think trayvon got a hit in on zimm. I think zimm fucked himself up so he could sell that self defense bullshit.
-Alex Kurtagic
#276. To: X-15 (#275)
You have to know by now that titorite and strepsiptera are gone and ain't coming back. Although it is probably a safe bet that the men in the white coats are hunting them to take them back to The Home.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#277. To: titorite (#271)
So learn more about it government operative. Nah I'm just kidding lurker... I know you know all about it and I know what your job here in this thread is... I just wish you wouldn't do it... your job I mean. So what are you hoping to "prove" with that image? It doesn't have anything to do with your claims that Martin was going door to door screaming for help, and there is NOT any evidence or even claims by ANYONE (other than you) that ever happened. As far as the story about rain, it was probably made up to cover for Martin being seen lurking in someone's yard. So why are you so worked up over this that you have to lie and fabricate wild assed tales which NOBODY but you are spinning? And why would the "government" want to have someone such as me post information contradictory to what THEY are saying, where your idol Obama made this a racial thing where in reality it had nothing at all to do with race? Why are YOU siding with THEM? It was not raining that night. The rain is a lie.... like many things in thsi foul case.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#278. To: James Deffenbach (#276)
Have they been banned? You have to know by now that titorite and strepsiptera are gone and ain't coming back.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#279. To: X-15, titorite, abraxas (#275)
Let's see, according to titorite, Zimmerman (a guy who has helped out people regardless of skin color) all of a sudden decided he was going to chase an angelic little black kid all around his neighborhood with a gun, while the kid is screaming for help while going door to door, then he executes him and fakes some injuries so that he can get away with it. And oh yeah, he did all that because he's an evil Jew (where in reality he is Catholic and his parents were Baptist and Catholic). Yeah, I guess with enough Sterno, Lean, and whatever he can dig up out of his medicine cabinet, that might all make sense. Nobody, anywhere, has suggested that George Zimmerman faked his injuries, including the Sanford Police who interviewed him afterwards.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#280. To: FormerLurker (#278)
Oh no, when I said they were gone and ain't coming back I meant that (imo) they are nuts. I guess I banned them in a sense because I put them on my clown filter. You know that old saying about how some folks don't suffer fools gladly? The older I get the more I think that is a wise course because life is too short to banter much with folks who have to know they are arguing bs. Have they been banned?
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#281. To: James Deffenbach (#280)
I had the psycho on filter for quite some time but decided to respond to one of his more off the wall comments after seeing it when not logged in. Might be an idea to put him back on, there's certainly nothing he'll ever have to say that would be worth listening to.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#282. To: FormerLurker (#281)
While it is possible that one or the other of them might, at some future date, have a coherent thought that would be worth the time it took to read I have yet to see evidence of it on the threads having to do with the Martin/Zimmerman case.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#283. To: titorite (#271)
Stop with your delusions, you're just nuts: http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KSFB/2012/2/26/DailyHistory.html? req_city=Sanford&req_state=FL&req_statename=Florida Weather History for Sanford, FL Sunday, February 26, 2012 Precipitation Precipitation 0.20 in Sea Level Pressure Sea Level Pressure 30.31 in Wind Wind Speed 7 mph (ENE) Max Wind Speed 17 mph Max Gust Speed 22 mph Visibility 8 miles Events RainIt was not raining that night. The rain is a lie.... like many things in thsi foul case.
-Alex Kurtagic
#284. To: X-15 (#283)
Don't be surprised if he or one of his cohorts tells you that the Weather Underground is a terrorist site. They've done it to me in the past on a different matter... http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KSFB/2012/2/26/DailyHistory.html? req_city=Sanford&req_state=FL&req_statename=Florida
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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