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Religion See other Religion Articles Title: Pope Signals Openness to Gay Priests ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE Pope Francis opened the door on Sunday to greater acceptance of gay priests inside the ranks of Roman Catholicism as he returned to the Vatican from his maiden trip overseas. Fielding questions from reporters during the first news conference of his young papacy, the pontiff broached the delicate question of how he would respond to learning that a cleric in his ranks was gay, though not sexually active. For decades, the Vatican has regarded homosexuality as a "disorder," and Pope Francis' predecessor Pope Benedict XVI formally barred men with what the Vatican deemed "deep-seated" homosexuality from entering the priesthood. "Who am I to judge a gay person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people." Never before had a pope spoken out in defense of gay priests in the Catholic ministry, said Vatican analysts. Past popes have traditionally treated homosexuality as an obstacle to priestly celibacy, and the Vatican has sent extensive instructions to Catholic seminaries on how to restrict gay candidates from the priesthood. Still, Pope Francis referred to homosexual acts as a sin, reaffirming church teaching. Pope Francis "is showing a deep respect for the human condition as it is instead of approaching things in a doctrinal way," said Alberto Melloni, a church historian. Women, the pope said, couldn't be ordained as priests, because the issue had been "definitively" settled by Pope John Paul II. However, he wanted to develop a "theology of the woman," in order to expand and deepen their involvement in the life of the church. The 80-minute news conference was wide-ranging and hastily arranged aboard an overnight flight that returned the pontiff to Rome Monday from a weeklong trip to Brazil, where millions of people flocked to see him, including three million at a Mass Sunday on the beach in Rio de Janeiro. The rock-star reception, analysts say, is likely to strengthen the pope's hand as he confronts myriad challenges awaiting him at the Vatican, including corruption at the Vatican bank to the long-running sexual-abuse crisis. Pope Francis' remarks on homosexuality came as he mused at length on one scandal that erupted on his predecessor's watch: a secret Vatican report leaked to the Italian media purporting that a clique of homosexual Vatican clerics had formed a "gay lobby" that was secretly pulling the strings inside the Holy See. The Argentine pontiff said he had discussed the findings of the internal Vatican report with Pope Benedict XVI, who resigned in early February. The German pope emeritus, Pope Francis said, had given him a box full of documentation and testimony from the internal report prepared by three octogenarian cardinals before he stepped down. In a nuanced yet candid reflection, the pope carefully drew a distinction between the possibility of pressure groups existing inside the Vaticanwhich he defined as a "problem"and the potential presence of gay priests within Vatican ranks. "You have to distinguish between the fact of a person being gay, and the fact of a lobby," the pope said. "The problem isn't having this orientation. The problem is making a lobby." The comments cut to the core of one of the most challenging issues facing the Catholic priesthood. Bishops who run local dioceses have long been divided over whether to accept gay priests who are chaste. While some bishops are tolerant of homosexuality, the Vatican's ban on gay men entering the priesthood has forced many clerics to keep their sexuality hidden from superiors who are likely to crack down. For bishops, the issue boils down to if "you got a priest you know is gay but is not active is that a problem for you or not?" said John L. Allen, a Vatican analyst with the National Catholic Reporter. "For this pope the answer is 'no.'" The pontiff waded into the issue after a reporter asked him to comment on a report in an Italian magazine purporting that a Vatican monsignor named Battista Ricca promoted by Pope Francis engaged in gay sexual relationships years ago when he was posted overseas at a Vatican embassy in Latin America. The monsignor hasn't commented publicly on the media scrutiny, and he remains in good standing with the pope, said a senior Vatican official. Msgr. Ricca declined to comment on Monday. The media scrutiny of the monsignor's personal life is a delicate matter for Pope Francis. In one of his first moves as pope, he appointed Msgr. Ricca as interim overseer of the Vatican's bank while a special commission weighs the bank's future. For years, the bank has faced allegations from Italian prosecutors and regulators that its internal controls weren't strong enough to guard against money laundering. On Sunday, Pope Francis suggested he was keeping all options on the table, from transforming the bank into a charitable fund to shutting it. "I don't know how this story is going to end," the pope said. The monsignor under media scrutiny is tasked with acting as Pope Francis' eyes and ears while the commission forges ahead. The pontiff said he ordered a preliminary investigation of the monsignor after rumors began to swirl about the cleric's purported sex life. The inquiry "found nothing," the pope said without elaborating on the investigation or its findings. "Many times in the church one goes in search of the sins of youth, and this gets published," the pope said. While criminal conductsuch as the sexual abuse of minorsshould be punished, sins should be forgiven once a person confesses, the pope said. "When the Lord forgives, He forgets," Pope Francis said. The pope, who had declined to take questions on his way to Brazil, on the return flight dispensed reading advice and discussed his plans to visit Jerusalem on his next overseas trip. Through it all, he maintained a Zen-like state of calm, even as the plane hit turbulence and the seat-belt lights flashed. Corrections & Amplifications The photo caption on an earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that the pope left Rio de Janiero Monday. The flight left Sunday. Poster Comment: "You have to distinguish between the fact of a person being gay, and the fact of a lobby," the pope said. "The problem isn't having this orientation. The problem is making a lobby." No, numb nuts. The problem is having "this orientation" and being in a position of authority over adolescent altar boys. What did the Catholic Church's previous investigation into the sexual abuse inflicted by priests scandal show? Answer: 85% of the sexual abuse was male on young male. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 10.
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Really?? Children are the result of the expression of love between a man and a woman in the Sacrament of Marriage. What is the end result of sexual intercourse between two men? Syphillis? Gonorrhea? Their fake 'love' has no purpose other than sexual gratification. There is no creation of life in homosexual relationships and the sexual act is one of pure gratification without there being a higher purpose like the creation of life. His Holiness is an unholy fraud.
Very nicely put. What a breath of fresh air it would have been had his holiness said something similar.
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