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Title: Sessions to Republicans: GOP Elite View on Immigration Is 'Nonsense'
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URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... migration-nonsense_741141.html
Published: Jul 30, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-07-30 02:26:47 by Horse
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Comments: 3

In a sharp memo sent this morning to fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill, Senator Jeff Sessions argues that the GOP elite view on immigration--shared by President Barack Obama and Senator Chuck Schumer--is "nonsense." Instead, Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, advises his fellow Republicans to adopt a "humble and honest populism."

The Sessions memo begins, "The GOP needs to flip the immigration debate on its head. The same set of GOP strategists, lobbyists, and donors who have always favored a proposal like the Gang of Eight immigration bill argue that the great lesson of the 2012 election is that the GOP needs to push for immediate amnesty and a drastic surge in low-skill immigration. This is nonsense."

The senator from Alabama goes on to argue that Republicans will win big elections if they can appeal to "working Americans of all backgrounds." And he says that if this immigration bill becomes law, "Low-income Americans will be hardest hit"

Sessions's advice to his fellow Republicans is clear: Don't help Obama hurt America. The Republican-led House is currently working on the Senate-approved immigration bill.

"Like Obamacare, this 1,200-page immigration bill is a legislative monstrosity inimical to the interests of our country and the American people. Polls show again and again that the American people want security accomplished first, that they do not support a large increase in net immigration levels, and that they do not trust the government to deliver on enforcement. The GOP should insist on an approach to immigration that both restores constitutional order and serves the interests of the American worker and taxpayer. But only by refusing any attempt at rescue or reprieve for the Senate bill is there a hope of accomplishing these goals," Sessions writes in conclusion.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

The Republicans are, as they often do, out on a limb. They have come out with an anti-immigration policy that is driven by anti-Mexican animus, even though it also works against all other kinds of immigrants. The Republicans evidently think that they are winning the hearts and minds of all American voters, whom they assume are DAR members.

But the simple fact is that many millions of American voters are themselves immigrants or the first generation children of immigrants, and in their minds the Republican policy translates to "the Republicans want to keep me and my family out."

And why the Republican hostility to Mexicans? It actually stems from the Dubya replay of the old Reagan ploy of 'calculated misunderstanding'. Back in Dubya's Administration, lots of complaints about good jobs (mostly technical and factory jobs) being outsourced to cheap Third World countries. But since Dubya didn't want to fight the wealthy corporations that were exporting those jobs, he deliberately misunderstood the complaint about 'foreigners getting our jobs' into Mexicans coming here to do that lucrative lettuce picking and hotel cleaning work that we all earned our high school diplomas and college educations to get. When that strategy faltered a bit, the Republicans played the 9-11 card are suggested that Arab terrorists were among the Mexicans dodging rattlesnakes in the desert to cross into the US; actual number of Arab terrorists caught sneaking in from Mexico - Zero, but several were caught in or coming from Canada which the Republicans ignore.

Of course, limiting lettuce-picking to US citizens would probably cause prices at the grocery stores to double, which the Republicans would then try to blame on everyone but themselves.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-07-30   7:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

1. What are you talking about? Dubya had zero anti-Mexican animus. His cherished nanny was Mexican as was his sister-in-law. Dubya wanted to push thru his version of "immigration reform" in his final years in the WH. Although in retrospect, Dubya's plan was less extreme than Bammy's is today.

2. The price of lettuce is miniscule vs the cost to taxpayers of education, health care, social welfare benefits used by illegal immigrants.

Also Europeans are using automation to pick lettuce and fruits. In the US large scale mechanized lettuce picking is around the corner. And fyi American farmers are supporting this development.

singularityhub.com/2012/0...s-it-visually-identifies/

3. A majority of Americans are against illegal immigration, are against amnesty, and want increased border control. Here's a list of various poll results the past 5 years. If the GOP would just follow what Americans are telling them in polls, they could win elections on the illegal immigration issue alone.

www.fairus.org/facts/ille...gration-and-amnesty-polls

Illegal Immigration and Amnesty Polls

Latino Opinions, July 2013 — Poll of U.S. Hispanic adults 60% of registered Hispanic voters support granting amnesty to "undocumented immigrants" only if illegal immigration is reduced by 90%. 34% support amnesty before that goal is reached. 56% of registered Hispanic voters (51% all adults) oppose allowing illegal aliens to obtain federal benefits "while they are going through the legalization process and before the 90% goal is reached." Hispanic voters ranked immigration reform last (31%) among a list of four priority issues, behind the economy (62%), healthcare (57%), and education (45%). 60% of Hispanic voters support tougher enforcement, with only 35% opposed. 64% of Hispanic voters support the use of E-verify, with only 29% opposed.

National Journal/Congressional Connections, July 2013 — Poll of U.S. adults Regardless of whether respondents support amnesty, 77% (90% Republicans, 80% Independents, 65% Democrats) do not think that amnestied aliens should be eligible for government benefits before these aliens become citizens. 20% believe amnestied aliens should receive benefits before attaining citizenship. 70% think that amnestied aliens should not be eligible for Obamacare before attaining citizenship (88% Republicans, 72% Independents, 54% Democrats); 27% disagree. 33% said it would make them less likely to support a candidate for reelection who voted for "a pathway to citizenship;" 21% said they would more likely support such a candidate. 22% think the U.S. should increase admissions of skilled immigrants; 24% want the number decreased; 47% want to keep the number the same. 29% believe companies should be able to admit as many high-skilled foreign workers as they want; 61% believe there should be restrictions on the number admitted.

59% of likely voters say that securing the U.S. border is more important than amnesty. 34% say that amnesty is more important than border security (Rasmussen, July 2013).

Only 28% of likely voters believe that the federal government is likely to secure the U.S. border if comprehensive immigration reform plan passes Congress (Rasmussen, June 2013).

Only 38% of likely voters believe that DHS should be able declare that the U.S. borders are secure (Rasmussen, June 2013).

55% of registered voters disapprove of Obama’s handling of immigration policy (Fox News, June 2013).

38% of likely voters think that immigration reform is likely or somewhat likely to pass in 2013. 52% think that immigration is unlikely or somewhat unlikely to pass (Rasmussen, May 2013).

CIS/Pulse, April 2013 - Poll of likely voters 72% support reducing the illegal alien population by requiring employers to check workers’ legal status, fortifying the border, and federal cooperation with local police. 54% strongly support this approach. When given an option, 58% say they support reducing the illegal alien population through enforcement, while 31% say they prefer amnesty that required illegal aliens to pay a fine, study English, and undergo a background check. 88% of Republican support reducing the illegal alien population by requiring employers to check workers’ legal status, fortifying the border, and federal cooperation with local police. 77% "strongly support" this approach. When given an option, 82% of Republicans support reducing the illegal alien population, while just 12% support conditional amnesty. 79% of Republican likely voters would be less likely to vote for a member of Congress who supported "legalization," while just 8% of would be more likely to vote for such a member. Among self-identified white evangelicals, 79% prefer reducing the illegal alien population by enforcing the law, while only 13% percent support conditional amnesty.

53% of U.S. citizens believe that most or all illegal aliens should be deported (30% most, 23% all), while 36% want all or most to stay (5% all, 31% most). 75% percent of Republicans think all or most immigrants should be deported, 40% of Democrats think the same (Reuters/Ipsos, April, 2013).

63% (38% mostly not secure, 25% totally not secure) of adults say that the U.S. border is not secure,while only 18% say it is secure (1% totally secure, 17% mostly secure) (Wall Street Journal/NBC News, April 2013).

69% of registered voters put border security first before any other changes are made in immigration policy (Fox News, March 2013).

55% of likely voters want the federal government to deport visa overstayers (Rasmussen, March 2013).

64% of likely voters believe that the U.S. border should be under control before any other facets of immigration reform move forward (Rasmussen, March 2013).

FAIR/Pulse, February 2013 — Poll of likely voters 86% believe illegal immigration is a problem for the U.S.; 12% believe it is not a problem. 53% believe that the U.S. border is not secure (16% "not at all secure"); 41% believe it is secure (6% "very secure"). 74% believe that the government is not effective at preventing illegal immigration; 21% think it is effective. 53% believe illegal aliens harm American workers; 26% believe that illegal aliens do not harm American workers; 11% believe they have little if any effect. 66% believe illegal aliens are a net drain on public resources; 11% believe they are a net benefit; 9% say they have little to no effect. 69% are not confident that immigration laws would be enforced in the future if illegal aliens were given amnesty; 26% are confidence that laws would be enforced. 37% support encouraging illegal aliens to return to their home countries by enforcing the law and cutting off benefits; 15% support deporting all illegal aliens (52% support enforcement/deportation); 36% support amnesty.

CIS/Pulse, February 2013 - Poll of likely voters 52% prefer to see illegal aliens return to their home countries; 33% preferred to give illegal aliens legal status. 64% say that immigration enforcement has been "too little;" 10% say" too much;" 15% said "just right." 71% think the illegal alien population in the U.S. was the result of a failure to enforce immigration laws; 18% think it is because the U.S. does not admit enough legal immigrants. 70% are not confident that immigration laws would be enforced in the future if illegal aliens were given amnesty; 37% express confidence that laws would be enforced. 53% say that they would be more likely to support a political party that favored the enforcement of immigration laws; 32% say that they would be more likely to support a political party that favored legalization.

51% of U.S. Hispanic adults are Democrats or lean Democratic, compared with 45% of all U.S. adults. 24% of U.S. Hispanic adults are Republican or lean Republican, compared with 41% of all U.S. adults. Identification with the Democratic Party is higher among older Hispanic adults. Gallup researchers concluded that it "appears that young Hispanic adults will remain lopsidedly Democratic throughout their lives. There is also no generational evidence at this point suggesting that they will become more Republican" (Gallup, February 2013).

80% of likely voters want to end illegal immigration, with 58% saying it is "very important" (Rasmussen, February 2013)

Only 27% of likely voters say that referring to an illegal alien as an "illegal immigrant" is "offensive" (Rasmussen, February, 2013).

Only 25% of likely voters believe DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano’s contention that "the border is now more secure than it has ever been?" 47% don’t believe this is true, and 28% are not sure (Rasmussen, February 2013).

58% of likely voters believe that the federal government encourages illegal immigration; 24% disagree, and 18% are undecided (Rasmussen, June 2012).

Likely U.S. voters opposed birthright citizenship for children born to illegal alien mothers 51% to 41% (Rasmussen, December 2012).

56% of likely U.S. voters put border control ahead of legalization of illegal aliens residing in the United States (35%) (Rasmussen, August 2012).

U.S. voters support an Arizona-type law for their own state, 61% to 34% (Quinnipiac, July 2012).

63% of Americans believe that the Arizona immigration enforcement law is either "about right" or "doesn't go far enough." 33% believe it "goes too far" (CBS/NY Times, June 2012).

60% of likely U.S. Voters believe that the federal government encourages illegal immigration. 24% disagree (Rasmussen, December 2011).

52% of likely U.S. voters supported the passage of an immigration law similar to Arizona's in their own state. 34% oppose such a law in their state (Rasmussen, December 2011).

65% of likely voters opposed birthright citizenship for children born to illegal alien mothers (Rasmussen, November 2011).

63% of likely voters put border control ahead of legalization of illegal aliens residing in the United States (Rasmussen, October 2011).

63% of likely voters believe that police officers should automatically check the legal status of an individual pulled over for a routine traffic stop. 31% disagree (Rasmussen, October 2011).

63% of likely U.S. voters think that border control is more important than "legalizing the status of undocumented workers." Only 27% put amnesty ahead of border security (Rasmussen, March 2011).

67% of likely U.S. voters believe that states should enforce immigration laws if the federal government fails to do so (Rasmussen, February 2011).

68% think that securing the border is more important than granting amnesty to illegal aliens, 26% favor amnesty (Rasmussen, March 2010).

67% believe that illegal immigration is a strain on the federal budget, 23% do not think so (Rasmussen, March 2010).

66% agree that the availability of government benefits attracts illegal aliens to the U.S., 19% disagree (Rasmussen, March 2010).

Rasmussen, October 2009 68% oppose the creation of sanctuary cities (jurisdictions that have a policy of not enforcing immigration law) with only 13% in favor. 49% to 33% say that federal funding should be cut off to sanctuary cities. 50% believe that sanctuary policies lead to increased crime, while 20% disagree. 56% to 27% believe that the policies of the federal government encourage illegal immigration.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation, October 2009 73% of Americans want to see a decrease in illegal immigration, while only 3% believe there should be an increase. 37% want to see all illegal aliens deported, and another 23% want the number if illegal aliens "decreased significantly."

Zogby, October 2009 56% of Mexican adults believe that granting amnesty to illegal aliens in the United States would make it more likely that people they know would attempt to illegally migrate to United States. Only 17 percent thought it would people make less likely to migrate illegally to the United States (Zogby, October 2009). 65% of Mexican adults who have a member of their immediate household in the United States said that amnesty would make people they know more likely to attempt to illegally migrate to America (Zogby, October 2009). Despite the recession, 36% of Mexicans (39 million people) say they would move to the United States if possible.

Rasmussen, October 2009 56% of U.S. voters believe that the policies of the federal government encourage illegal immigration. Only 27% of voters disagree. With those who express anger over immigration, 83% of voters are angry at the federal government with only 12% directing their anger at immigrants. 64% of voters believe law enforcement officers should continue to target sites where illegal aliens gather to look for work.

Rasmussen, April 2009 66% of likely voters nationwide agreed it was "Very Important" for the government to improve America's border security and to reduce illegal immigration.

Rasmussen Report, March 2009 68% believe that employers who hire illegal aliens should be punished 48% of U.S. voters also support sanctions on landlords who rent or sell property to illegal immigrants; only 36% are opposed to sanctions.

Zogby, November 2008 60% of voters said reducing illegal immigration and cracking down on employers who hire them is important to them, while only 21% supported "legalizing or creating a pathway to citizenship" for illegal aliens. 57% of voters stated that amnesty would harm American workers and further strain public resources, while only 26% believe amnesty would aid economic recovery and ease public burdens.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-07-30 12:24:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

actual number of Arab terrorists caught sneaking in from Mexico - Zero

What's your point? Mexicans are seldom caught sneaking in from Mexico but it sure doesn't mean they aren't doing that in droves. If millions of Israel's neighbors walked in illegally, would you be in favor of citizenship there for them? Yes or No.

Edited next to last sentence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-30 13:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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