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Title: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”
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Published: Aug 4, 2013
Author: marrage of Netscape and Yahoo
Post Date: 2013-08-04 11:02:03 by Itistoolate
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Views: 1494
Comments: 61

— Israeli Prime

Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002.

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#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

You might want to provide the source for this alleged quote. And check your history book; Ariel Sharon, not Netanyahu, was Israeli PM in 2002.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-08-04   12:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#2)

Did Benjamin Netanyahu say that or not?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-08-04   12:51:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#6)

I feel sure he didn't say it. The quote is a fake.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-08-04   13:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Shoonra, GreyMist, All (#8)

The quote is a fake.

I tend to agree with Shoonra on this particular quote.

I haven't found any proof that Sharon said this to Peres publicly.

Sharon is a brutal war criminal but he's not a stupid politician.

IMHO, arguing about a unverifiable quote is a distraction from discussion of the horrific war crimes of Ariel Sharon. Sharon's despicable murderous actions are public knowledge - they will follow him to his grave.

www.independent.co.uk/voi...y-robert-fisk-521809.html

scrapper2  posted on  2013-08-04   15:34:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: scrapper2, all (#15)

I tend to agree with Shoonra on this particular quote.

I haven't found any proof that Sharon said this to Peres publicly.

It was on Israeli Radio, but the interview, debate, report was in Hebrew. I do not find it surprising that it has not received more "airing" as it was a very revealing comment, and one not intended for Goy ears.

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it." ~ Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Source 1) (Source 2) (Source 3)

While the above are not definitive, and do not rise to the level of having an actual recording and transcript, it seems fairly certain that Sharon really did say what he credited with.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-04   15:56:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#17)

While the above are not definitive

That's my point - there's no definitive proof for that quote like a YouTube recording or transcript of Sharon saying it publicly, so folks like Shoonra can and will respond with an "It's a fake" comment and then the subsequent line of thinking will be "well, if the quote is fake, what else about sweet Ariel Sharon is fake?"

Sharon may have expressed that sentiment or a variation of it PRIVATELY to Peres and/or to other Israeli politicians.

But Sharon parlayed his terrorism into a successful military career and after that to being a very successful politician. Ariel Sharon is not a stupid man. To express that sentiment publicly on radio would be the mark of a stupid man.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-08-04   16:25:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: scrapper2 (#22)

While the above are not definitive

That's my point - there's no definitive proof for that quote like a YouTube recording or transcript of Sharon saying it publicly, so folks like Shoonra can and will respond with an "It's a fake" comment and then the subsequent line of thinking will be "well, if the quote is fake, what else about sweet Ariel Sharon is fake?"

Sharon may have expressed that sentiment or a variation of it PRIVATELY to Peres and/or to other Israeli politicians.

But Sharon parlayed his terrorism into a successful military career and after that to being a very successful politician. Ariel Sharon is not a stupid man. To express that sentiment publicly on radio would be the mark of a stupid man.

Basically Sharon was a stupid man. Do not mistake cunning and crafty for serious intelligence. It takes much more to build than to destroy. Sharon was by all that we can see of his "works" not a man to be lauded. Ultimately he was evil, psychotically so, and that is basically stupid as it provides for the degradation of a society and culture when such an individual is propelled into power.

By your logic we would have to conclude that Bushbama was an intelligent man - all evidence to the contrary aside.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-04   16:55:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#28)

Basically Sharon was a stupid man.

Parenthetically, we're used to referring to this stupid man in the past tense, but he's still alive in a coma and has been pooping along on life support for the past six years.

randge  posted on  2013-08-04   17:30:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge (#33)

...pooping along on life support for the past six years.

Fighting like the devil to keep from joining him in the depths of Hell.

I don't blame him.

Lod  posted on  2013-08-04   17:33:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Lod (#35)

...pooping along on life support for the past six years.

Fighting like the devil to keep from joining him in the depths of Hell.

I don't blame him.

I really wish I didn't have to "Ditto" that. :-)

However, I am a fatalist. If I live, good. If not, then I intend to go out being true to my ideals (not that I have never stumbled).

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-04   17:43:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Original_Intent (#42)

I also believe that the pages to the books of our lives were penned long before we were born.

Lod  posted on  2013-08-04   17:56:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Lod (#43)

I also believe that the pages to the books of our lives were penned long before we were born.

Crap, I need a new screenwriter.

Esso  posted on  2013-08-04   19:11:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Esso (#49)

I stole this from randge ;-]

(Julia Robertsesque)

Lod  posted on  2013-08-04   19:26:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Lod (#50)

Who said the more things change, the more they stay the same?

Cheers, Lod.

randge  posted on  2013-08-04   21:36:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: randge (#58)

Good to see you back here.

Is that your rifle?

Regardless, it would get the job done.

Lod  posted on  2013-08-04   21:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#60. To: Lod (#59)

Is that your rifle?

No, I picked that image off the 'net. I just realized that that's a Mauser. I've got one though that's even older than that. I couldn't bear the thought of drilling and tapping it for optics. It will still hit the bullseye at 75 yds. That's my iron sights limit. My eyes are crapping out on me. ;]

randge  posted on  2013-08-04 21:56:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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