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Title: An Open Letter to the Parents of Trayvon Martin
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Published: Aug 6, 2013
Author: Glenda Wells
Post Date: 2013-08-06 00:10:23 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 3609
Comments: 237

Ms Fulton, Mr Martin I mourn your loss more than I can possibly say but let's be clear. Your son had as much opportunity to walk away as Mr Zimmerman did but chose instead to be aggressive himself.

Just as a reminder, Mr Zimmerman did not use Stand Your Ground as a defense. The facts are indisputable that your son was on top and pounding Mr Zimmerman. Your son was not stalked. Mr Zimmerman was judged in a court of law to be not guilty therefore no punishment is warranted.

Your son was depicted by the media as a young boy and portrayed as an innocent but let's be honest. We know that was not a true picture. Instead we learned you're son was a drug dealer and petty thief. Where were you when he should have been learning respect? Where were you when he needed the kind of guidance that would make him a good and decent man?

Your efforts now seem like the desperate reach of parents trying to make up for in death what they failed in life. To think otherwise would paint you as a crass and heartless people looking for personal gain on the grave of a soul lost too soon.

I am the Florida state coordinator for Gun Rights Across America. I represent more than 2,000 law abiding citizens who believe in our God-given right to defend ourselves, our families and our property against the kind of aggression displayed by your son that awful night and by countless thugs and criminals across the nation every day.

GRAA has the support of thousands of members in every state and we have the backing of millions more in hundreds of Patriot and Constitutional groups around the country. We will fight any effort designed to give thugs and criminals power over law abiding citizens.

We have no duty to retreat. We will not run and hide.

We are many. We are mighty. And we vote.

Respectfully and with heartfelt sadness.

Glenda Wells
Gun Rights Across America, Florida State Coordinator

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#2. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#0)

let's be honest.

This author is not being honest, imo. Although I suspect this to be a Masonic-linked Op to stir up racial conflict, what's considered the reported evidence indicates that Martin (who had committed no "Running Man" crime that night by hurrying through his neighborhood to get home and out of the rain) was on the porch at his own home before the confrontation with Zimmerman. There are no witnesses that Zimmerman was aggressively struck first in the scenario -- just his word. That someone claimed it appeared to them that Zimmerman was being beaten while pinned to the ground doesn't mean they might not be mistaken or lying. Zimmerman's clothing did not look in film footage like he'd been on the wet ground, he requested help to restrain someone who most likely wouldn't even have been moving at that point and he tried to stop that person who had arrived with a flashlight from calling the police for help. That Zimmerman was reportedly in charge of patrolling the area for months and didn't know the names of the streets indicates he may have been motivated more by vigilantism than his safety duties. I think a good case could be made, though, for open carry instead of concealed carry by Neighborhood Watch patrols because that might prevent others being similarly shot by surprise during what was seemingly to them an unarmed fight with a probable stalker.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-08-06   7:30:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

This author is not being honest, imo.

I believe she is. And the available evidence shows that it happened the way Zimmerman said it did, not the way the apologists for Martin said.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-08-06   9:08:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#3) (Edited)

the available evidence shows that it happened the way Zimmerman said it did, not the way the apologists for Martin said.

I actually do think, if it happened, that it largely happened the way Zimmerman said it did in his reenactment video -- except details, for example, like his claim that he was struck first by Martin, which is unverifiable and not a critical issue anyway, afaik, on the question of self defense. I don't think I'm being an apologist for Martin by saying that the way Zimmerman said it happened [in that video] doesn't sound very exonerating or like self defense to me. I think if people listened attentively to his statements [there], they might not be so quick to insist this is a simple matter of self defense. What do you think, though, about the issue of Open Carry for Neighborhood Watch patrollers being a better safety measure than Concealed Carry? I'm currently of the opinion that Open Carry would be the better option to deter others from getting shot by surprise during a fight they thought to be unarmed.

Edited for bracketed inserts.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-08-07   7:33:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GreyLmist (#37)

Several years ago a black gang tortured a couple for hours in an apartment and killed them. A week after the incident in Sanford which we’re discussing here just blocks from Zimmerman’s house two “Black Hebrews” beat a white man, Mark Slavin, near to death with a hammer and stole his van. (This case is so heavily under wraps BTW that you can’t find a news story about it under a year old. The Zimmerman judge is handling the case of one of the perps.) More recently, a black 17 year old shot a toddler in a stroller to between the eyes because his mother couldn’t fork up any cash in a robbery. Half the perp’s family is in jail because they backed up a fake alibi or helped destroy evidence.

Point here is that there have been some shocking stories the past couple of years that went completely under the radar. They didn’t receive a fraction of the attention that the Zimmerman case did. It was all “ . . . and then the big bad WHITE MAN killed the handsome, sweet, innocent colored boy.” This case was tailor made to be spun the way some in the media wanted because crucial parts of the events took place under four eyes (two of them no longer with us) and the conventional press ran with its version of the shooting.

Here’s the conspiracy, GreyLmist: This a case that many white folks terrified by urban crime see as a case of self-defence, while a large proportion of blacks look at this shooting as a racist attack, and it’s inflamed their ready sense of racial paranoia. IMHO, this case, in the way that it was portrayed by the press, was promoted to divide people and ignite enmity and hatred.

WHO DECIDED THAT THIS SHOOTING WAS PAGE ONE NEWS?? Someone (more than one person) made that decision. There’s your effin’ conspiracy.

randge  posted on  2013-08-07   9:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: randge, 4 (#38)

Who decided TM was page one news worthy? The same folks who buried this, and stories like this, with regularity.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-08-07   13:39:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#44. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

The reverend "begs to differ" and they drag in the hoary swastika.

'Bout what you'd expect & you can expect no less in this sclerotic republic of moral paralytics.

randge  posted on  2013-08-07 14:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

This story has been posted on my fridge for 5 years to remind myself and others of the need for eternal vigilance. Even without the mutilations the crime was much more horrific than portrayed in that video.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-08-07 14:08:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull, randge, 4 (#43)

Who decided TM was page one news worthy? The same folks who buried this, and stories like this, with regularity.

In the case you refer to, the guy was gang raped prison style in front of his girlfriend, then they cut off his penis, set him on fire outside, then shot him.

As far as the girlfriend, they gang raped her for two DAYS, then cut her breasts off, poured bleach down her mouth (while still ALIVE and CONSCIOUS), and ended up stuffing her into a trash can to let her die slowly.

And as you say, this never made front page news.

The Torture Murders of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom>

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-08-07 14:38:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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