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Title: An Open Letter to the Parents of Trayvon Martin
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Published: Aug 6, 2013
Author: Glenda Wells
Post Date: 2013-08-06 00:10:23 by James Deffenbach
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Ms Fulton, Mr Martin I mourn your loss more than I can possibly say but let's be clear. Your son had as much opportunity to walk away as Mr Zimmerman did but chose instead to be aggressive himself. Just as a reminder, Mr Zimmerman did not use Stand Your Ground as a defense. The facts are indisputable that your son was on top and pounding Mr Zimmerman. Your son was not stalked. Mr Zimmerman was judged in a court of law to be not guilty therefore no punishment is warranted. Your son was depicted by the media as a young boy and portrayed as an innocent but let's be honest. We know that was not a true picture. Instead we learned you're son was a drug dealer and petty thief. Where were you when he should have been learning respect? Where were you when he needed the kind of guidance that would make him a good and decent man? Your efforts now seem like the desperate reach of parents trying to make up for in death what they failed in life. To think otherwise would paint you as a crass and heartless people looking for personal gain on the grave of a soul lost too soon. I am the Florida state coordinator for Gun Rights Across America. I represent more than 2,000 law abiding citizens who believe in our God-given right to defend ourselves, our families and our property against the kind of aggression displayed by your son that awful night and by countless thugs and criminals across the nation every day. GRAA has the support of thousands of members in every state and we have the backing of millions more in hundreds of Patriot and Constitutional groups around the country. We will fight any effort designed to give thugs and criminals power over law abiding citizens. We have no duty to retreat. We will not run and hide. We are many. We are mighty. And we vote. Respectfully and with heartfelt sadness. Glenda Wells
Gun Rights Across America, Florida State Coordinator
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#32. To: GreyLmist (#31)
Even Trayvon's girl friend, Jeantel, said she believed Trayvon struck first. Jeantel was not an eye witness but she was the one who Trayvn called and talked to through the course of "the event." Check "The Google." I think the major problem with assigning blame to a cult/oligarchy/outside secret society for every violent event that takes place is summed up in a childhood parable about the consequences of crying wolf. You can become your own worst enemy by reading a deus ex machina into tragedies too often.
I dare you to call up the state prosecutor's office in Florida and tell them that they need to look into this, then count the milliseconds until the phone is slammed down in your ear. Nobody will buy what you're selling, including lawyers/prosecutor's/police/judges/news reporters/etc. I presume this means I've been parolled from your bozo filter over the Rigby issue, at least temporarily. Yaay. I'd only be surprised if they didn't act as if they can't be bothered about it and there's no such thing as staged Ops or Masonic shenanigans. I could have left the phrase "Masonic-linked" out of my initial statement here and just said that I suspected this to be a staged Op to some extent. I posted on those aspects in a different topic and I didn't mention that here to make it a focal point in this discussion -- just to indicate upfront that I'm not debating these issues because I'm entirely convinced too that it happened, although I'm not 100% convinced either that it didn't. Whether it did or not, the regressive impact on Americans and America has been basically the same. That's my main concern at this point in trying to address what I think is misleading, inaccurate and overly intensive or under inspected about the matter. When discussing things like someone did this or that in the context of a report/scenario/narrative/storyline that I think could be fictional to some degree, I'd rather it be understood that is where I'm at on this -- even though it would probably have been more convenient for me to say nothing or be vaguer about my Op suspicions. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Jeantel was not an eye witness but she was the one who Trayvn called and talked to through the course of "the event." Check "The Google." I think the major problem with assigning blame to a cult/oligarchy/outside secret society for every violent event that takes place is summed up in a childhood parable about the consequences of crying wolf. You can become your own worst enemy by reading a deus ex machina into tragedies too often. People tend to believe that her testimony is credible when they want to and not when they don't. I understand that the rest of what you're saying is the "conventional wisdom" on the subject of staged Ops, thanks. I don't assign every violent event to a cult/oligarchy/outside secret society. This is one of the times that I think the evidence pointed very obviously in the direction of a Masonic connection somehow. Trayvon's father is even reportedly a Master Mason himself. Debating and presenting what I suspect to be Op evidence that most others don't and seeing it that way more often than seems reasonable to many -- or differently than they do -- surely has been problematic for me and isolating to the detriment, maybe, of other issues of importance to more than me. I do what I can to discuss other issues without a stigmatism over Op topics skewing people's opinions but try to look at it from the vantage point of Op stagers and shadowy secret societies and such. You're effectively signaling to them that the more Op evidence there is (beyond a "standard" limit) that they're moving deceptively and damagingly against us, the more apt they are to get a pass as Non-Suspects from those thinking like you and the less people like me will be believed who happen to notice evidence of more than a few Op stagings, past and present. Sort of a win-win situation for them that penalizes investigative researchers without a sound basis to do so, really, imo -- like it's mostly about Surplus Supply and Demand or something and not facts in evidence that indicate Op complicity. Sheesh. That gave me pause to think about all the funner things there are to do than this. Decided to stay on-task here instead. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I don't have a problem agreeing with that. Ok. I suppose so except that what he described to the police in his reenactment video was not self defense so much as an accidental shooting that he wasn't even aware had happened to hit TM. There are serious oddities after that point and at least one of those examples that could perhaps be considered a criminal attempt to prevent a call to the police for emergency help by the man with a flashlight who couldn't have been sure that Z had already called them, as he claimed, or whether Martin had been shot in self defense/unintentionally or might have been murdered by Z. In addition to that, by Z's own account in the video, he not only did nothing himself to try and help Martin and didn't ask the man if he was able to help Martin or would get help for him, Z bizarrely insisted that he needed help from the man to restrain Martin who was likely not moving. If those examples were in evidence in a case that wasn't this one, wouldn't you think the attempted obstruction of a call to the police for help was at least indicative of reckless disregard for the life of someone who had used no weaponry against him? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Never happened. Z expresses surprise TM had died during his first police interview some hours after the incident, but he never once suggested the shooting was accidental.
I actually do think, if it happened, that it largely happened the way Zimmerman said it did in his reenactment video -- except details, for example, like his claim that he was struck first by Martin, which is unverifiable and not a critical issue anyway, afaik, on the question of self defense. I don't think I'm being an apologist for Martin by saying that the way Zimmerman said it happened [in that video] doesn't sound very exonerating or like self defense to me. I think if people listened attentively to his statements [there], they might not be so quick to insist this is a simple matter of self defense. What do you think, though, about the issue of Open Carry for Neighborhood Watch patrollers being a better safety measure than Concealed Carry? I'm currently of the opinion that Open Carry would be the better option to deter others from getting shot by surprise during a fight they thought to be unarmed. Edited for bracketed inserts. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Several years ago a black gang tortured a couple for hours in an apartment and killed them. A week after the incident in Sanford which we’re discussing here just blocks from Zimmerman’s house two “Black Hebrews” beat a white man, Mark Slavin, near to death with a hammer and stole his van. (This case is so heavily under wraps BTW that you can’t find a news story about it under a year old. The Zimmerman judge is handling the case of one of the perps.) More recently, a black 17 year old shot a toddler in a stroller to between the eyes because his mother couldn’t fork up any cash in a robbery. Half the perp’s family is in jail because they backed up a fake alibi or helped destroy evidence. Point here is that there have been some shocking stories the past couple of years that went completely under the radar. They didn’t receive a fraction of the attention that the Zimmerman case did. It was all “ . . . and then the big bad WHITE MAN killed the handsome, sweet, innocent colored boy.” This case was tailor made to be spun the way some in the media wanted because crucial parts of the events took place under four eyes (two of them no longer with us) and the conventional press ran with its version of the shooting. Here’s the conspiracy, GreyLmist: This a case that many white folks terrified by urban crime see as a case of self-defence, while a large proportion of blacks look at this shooting as a racist attack, and it’s inflamed their ready sense of racial paranoia. IMHO, this case, in the way that it was portrayed by the press, was promoted to divide people and ignite enmity and hatred. WHO DECIDED THAT THIS SHOOTING WAS PAGE ONE NEWS?? Someone (more than one person) made that decision. There’s your effin’ conspiracy. Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.
Personally, open carry is fine with me. I think everyone has the right to bear arms unless there is something in their background that would disqualify them (like being provably dangerous to other people). And whether they carry concealed or openly would make no difference to me. Your assumption should always be that if you are thinking about starting $#it with someone, or maybe putting a beat down on some "creepy ass cracker" that said "creepy ass cracker" might blow you away with the gun he is carrying. Civilized people don't go around sucker punching other people like Saint Skittles did. Paul Craig Roberts
Especially in Florida where gun ownership is quite high, no?
Excellent observation. Black teens and children get murdered every day in America ( typically at the hand of other Blacks). But with how many of them has the President personally and publicly identified? Only one - Obama said at a presser that Trayvon looked like he could have been his son. The trial was happening at a time when Obama and his Administration were under the gun regarding a number of scandals - Benghazi, the IRS, phone tapping of the press, the NSA's domestic snooping, Obamacare costs, etc etc.... The Dem Rats needed a story on the Front Pages of newspapers and Google that was not a scandal about Obama and Company.
I believe it is. And where gun ownership is high the crime rate is low. And if the idiots who push gun control would use their heads they would know that if guns were inherently dangerous in and of themselves--which is what they seem to think--no one would ever leave a gun show alive. Paul Craig Roberts
Who decided TM was page one news worthy? The same folks who buried this, and stories like this, with regularity.
The reverend "begs to differ" and they drag in the hoary swastika. 'Bout what you'd expect & you can expect no less in this sclerotic republic of moral paralytics. Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.
This story has been posted on my fridge for 5 years to remind myself and others of the need for eternal vigilance. Even without the mutilations the crime was much more horrific than portrayed in that video.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
1. Regarding your claim about Jeantel's testimony being presented as Truth only when it's a convenient to do so... if I'm not mistaken, Jeantel volunteered this information in a talk show interview AFTER the verdict in the trial was announced. She was not on the stand anymore. She was not presenting a phony story that the Prosecution had scripted and coached her to say. After the trial was done, Jeantel had nothing to gain or lose with her admission about Trayvon throwing the first punch. For this reason, I find her post-trial remarks about Trayvon throwing the "first punch" believable. 2.You don't always interject Staged Ops into discussions about violent events in the news. That is true. But because you have done it and continue to do it in such a frequent and predictable manner, it seems like you always do it more often than not. 3. Re: your comment: "Trayvon's father is even reportedly a Master Mason himself" - yes, Tracy Martin is a Grand Master in District #006. www.renfordpbrowngl.org/district_006.html That incidental fact does not make the Zimmerman-Trayvon shooting tragedy a Masonic Staged Op. One of my physicians is a Mason. My brother-in-law is a Knight of Columbus. Fyi, there's hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of Masons and KOC's in America. So what?
Right on cue. How am I not surprised by the stance you've chosen to take. Years ago Florida did not have CC and had the highest murder rate in the country,not anymore. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Exactly, and to be blind to that indicates someone isn't looking very clearly. In the case you refer to, the guy was gang raped prison style in front of his girlfriend, then they cut off his penis, set him on fire outside, then shot him. As far as the girlfriend, they gang raped her for two DAYS, then cut her breasts off, poured bleach down her mouth (while still ALIVE and CONSCIOUS), and ended up stuffing her into a trash can to let her die slowly. And as you say, this never made front page news. Indeed. Whether Tracy Martin is actually a Grand Master Mason or not, I find it difficult to believe that he could have staged an event like this which began with the random act of a teenager purchasing an Arizona fruit drink & a bag of Skittles. Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.
yes, Tracy Martin is a Grand Master in District #006. He's a Prince Hall 'mason', not a real Mason. Huge difference. Masons won't let Prince Hall 'masons' enter their lodge. It's the last corner of America that Whites are allowed to openly discriminate against negro's without one word of protest from the MSM. I'm not a Mason, btw.
#33. To: X-15 (#29)
Although I suspect this to be a Masonic-linked Op to stir up racial conflict
#34. To: scrapper2 (#32)
Even Trayvon's girl friend, Jeantel, said she believed Trayvon struck first.
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
Who struck first has zero to do with the use of necessary force to defend oneself from deadly physical force.
To be clearer, let's assume Z struck Martin first.
If TM responded by beating Z to the point he feared for his life, Z was within his rights to use necessary force to stop the attack. It's called self defense.
#36. To: GreyLmist (#35)
I suppose so except that what he described to the police in his reenactment video was not self defense so much as an accidental shooting that he wasn't even aware had happened to hit TM.
#37. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
(Edited)
the available evidence shows that it happened the way Zimmerman said it did, not the way the apologists for Martin said.
#38. To: GreyLmist (#37)
#39. To: GreyLmist (#37)
What do you think, though, about the issue of Open Carry for Neighborhood Watch patrollers being a better safety measure than Concealed Carry? I'm currently of the opinion that Open Carry would be the better option to deter others from getting shot by surprise during a fight they thought to be unarmed.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#40. To: James Deffenbach (#39)
putting a beat down on some "creepy ass cracker" that said "creepy ass cracker" might blow you away with the gun he is carrying.
#41. To: randge (#38)
WHO DECIDED THAT THIS SHOOTING WAS PAGE ONE NEWS?? Someone (more than one person) made that decision. There’s your effin’ conspiracy.
#42. To: scrapper2 (#40)
Especially in Florida where gun ownership is quite high, no?
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#43. To: randge, 4 (#38)
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
#46. To: GreyLmist (#34)
People tend to believe that her testimony is credible when they want to and not when they don't. I understand that the rest of what you're saying is the "conventional wisdom" on the subject of staged Ops, thanks. I don't assign every violent event to a cult/oligarchy/outside secret society. This is one of the times that I think the evidence pointed very obviously in the direction of a Masonic connection somehow. Trayvon's father is even reportedly a Master Mason himself.
#47. To: GreyLmist (#2)
(Edited)
This author is not being honest, imo. Although I suspect this to be a Masonic-linked Op to stir up racial conflict, what's considered the reported evidence indicates that Martin (who had committed no "Running Man" crime that night by hurrying through his neighborhood to get home and out of the rain) was on the porch at his own home before the confrontation with Zimmerman.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#48. To: scrapper2 (#40)
Especially in Florida where gun ownership is quite high, no?
#49. To: randge, GreyLmist (#38)
WHO DECIDED THAT THIS SHOOTING WAS PAGE ONE NEWS?? Someone (more than one person) made that decision. There’s your effin’ conspiracy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: Jethro Tull, randge, 4 (#43)
Who decided TM was page one news worthy? The same folks who buried this, and stories like this, with regularity.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#51. To: scrapper2 (#46)
So what?
#52. To: scrapper2, GreyLmist (#46)
Trayvon's father is even reportedly a Master Mason himself.
-Alex Kurtagic
#53. To: GreyLmist (#2)
How long had Zimmerman been living in that area? Normally when one is appointed to patrol an area, they are not only fully familiar with their area (including their neighbors) but most of the neighbors also participate in neighborhood watch whether they live in apartment domiciles or own their homes. Another thing that bothers me is this: The moment that Zimmerman got out of his car was the moment he opened himself up to personal danger. Normally, when a resident is patrolling their neighborhood and they see suspicious activity, even if they are armed, they DO NOT EVER get out of their car. They call the cops. And even cops knows this when they see suspicious activity, they do not even get out of their car. Instead, they assess the situation to see of possible danger and then they follow the suspect in the car (not on foot). And I'm all for open carry! That Zimmerman was reportedly in charge of patrolling the area for months and didn't know the names of the streets indicates he may have been motivated more by vigilantism than his safety duties. I think a good case could be made, though, for open carry instead of concealed carry by Neighborhood Watch patrols because that might prevent others being similarly shot by surprise during what was seemingly to them an unarmed fight with a probable stalker.
#54. To: GreyLmist (#8)
How unfortunate that you can't appeal Zimmerman's exoneration and try him again with facts more to your liking, but that would be double jeopardy and is forbidden. Your twisting of the evidence is the best example of why the founders erected a constitutional bar to it.
#55. To: purplerose (#53)
I think you just indirectly called Saint Skittles a dangerous criminal?? Zimmerman had every right to get out of his vehicle in HIS neighborhood. It was NOT Saint Skittles neighborhood. The moment that Zimmerman got out of his car was the moment he opened himself up to personal danger.
-Alex Kurtagic
#56. To: GreyLmist (#37)
Of all the retired and off duty LEOs I know, 100% carry their weapons concealed. Way too many reasons to mention why this is, but safety would be at the top of the list. What do you think, though, about the issue of Open Carry for Neighborhood Watch patrollers being a better safety measure than Concealed Carry? I'm currently of the opinion that Open Carry would be the better option to deter others from getting shot by surprise during a fight they thought to be unarmed.
#57. To: GreyLmist, jethro tull (#25)
youre welcome. Paul fisher was a congressional aide & had access to endless documents. His book & bibligraphy is amazing.military docunmets, govt reports ad infinitum. Its a must read for anyone wanting cold hard FACTS about masons.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#58. To: X-15 (#55)
On the day Martin was fatally shot, he and his father were visiting his father's fiancée and her son at her townhome in The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, a multi-ethnic gated community, where the shooting occurred. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin Zimmerman and his wife had moved into the Retreat at Twin Lakes in 2009. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin Trayvon had just as every much right to be in that Retreat neighborhood just as Zimmerman. Trayvon had family there. It was NOT Saint Skittles neighborhood.
#59. To: purplerose (#58)
Ouch! My head hurts trying to assimilate all those New Age ex and step family connections plus the ACLU au courant watch words like "multi-ethnic"juxtaposed to "gated" etc etc etc. Not to get picky but I think you forgot to mention the DOJ touch stone phrase: "multi-racial." Spit it out, purple rose, don't keep us hanging in suspense pulling our hair out while going through your legalese word maze - tah dah! - Trayvon was a "guest" of a homeowner @ The Retreat. he and his father were visiting his father's fiancée and her son at her townhome in The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, a multi-ethnic gated community,
#60. To: scrapper2 (#59)
abcnews.go.com: Jeantel said she told Martin to run but that he responded that he was almost home. Trayvon was a "guest" of a homeowner @ The Retreat.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#61. To: GreyLmist, scrapper2, normal people (#60)
His home was with his mother in Miami, he was staying with his father at his girlfriend's place at The Retreat. He had been there app. two weeks after having been suspended from school for fighting, and other assorted ghetto behavior.
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)
Can Anyone Verify These Disturbing Allegations About Trayvon’s Family? Posted on | July 15, 2013 | 304 Comments and 0 Reactions A commenter on the earlier post wrote this: Here’s something else you don’t know. From the age of 3 until age 15 or 16, Trayvon Martin lived NOT with Sybrina Fulton but with Tracy Martin, a known member of the Crips, and his then-wife Alicia Stanley-Martin, who was mentioned above. Alicia Stanley-Martin in that interview with Anderson Cooper said Trayvon spent 90% of his life in her home being raised with her two daughters from a previous relationship. When Tracy Martin dumped Alicia for Brandy he sent Trayvon to live with Sybrina — a woman he hardly knew. The two didn’t get along at all. Sybrina kicked Trayvon out two days before he jumped Zimmerman. Oddly, at that point Tracy was living with his sister because he’d dumped Alicia but hadn’t yet convinced Brandy to let him shack up with her and her son Chad. According to Trayvon’s text messages the plan was for him and Tracy to move in with Brandy soon but there was no definite date. So Sybrina kicked Trayvon out knowing that Tracy had no home of his own, meaning Trayvon had no home to go to other than his aunt’s house where his father was staying. Mother-of-the-year award material. The part that gets me, however, is that Sybrina would let a known member of the Crips to raise her child from age three. I’m sorry but that’s too messed up for words. You ought to check out Trayvon’s text messages, the released ones anyway. All evidence points to Tracy initiating Trayvon into the Crips, including purchasing illegal guns on the street. Yes, you read that correctly. The text messages may be found at the website created and ran by Mark O’Mara. Look at the ten text message reports. Oh, and Tracy Martin’s Crip nickname is “Fruit.” http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/15/can-anyone-verify-these-disturbing- allegations-about-trayvons-family/
Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.
#63. To: randge (#62)
There you go, all one needs to know about angelic Trayvon Martin. Sleep well, young Trayvon. Your crime spree is over.
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
JT Post #36: Never happened. Z expresses surprise TM had died during his first police interview some hours after the incident, but he never once suggested the shooting was accidental. Raw Video: George Zimmerman reenacts incident for Sanford Police - at 12 minutes 54 seconds, says he didn't think he hit Trayvon when he shot him. Hannity interview article - transcription | Hannity interview video HANNITY: When you think back, there was one report or police report that actually said you didn’t know after you fired, you didn’t think — you thought you missed? ZIMMERMAN: I didn’t think I hit him, yes. ------------------------- Odd how he gave so many lawyer free interviews to the police and on TV too but didn't want to testify in court. Could you please source which interview and where in it those comments were made or an article about it? Am posting these two audio archives for access conveniene: George Zimmerman’s Statements To Sanford PD [Audio] Links to all of the available audio files from the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman caseMe: what he described to the police in his reenactment video was not self defense so much as an accidental shooting that he wasn't even aware had happened to hit TM.
5. He didn’t know he’d shot Trayvon
JT Post #16: BTW, Serino tried to shake Zimmerman up in one of his five, voluntary, lawyer free interviews. He told him that there was a possibility that the fight was caught by a camera. Zimmerman's reaction? He thanked god and hoped that it was true.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#65. To: GreyLmist (#64)
ZIMMERMAN: I didn’t think I hit him, yes. If you can construe this to mean Z fired accidentally, you are seriously ill. HANNITY: When you think back, there was one report or police report that actually said you didn’t know after you fired, you didn’t think — you thought you missed?
#66. To: GreyLmist (#64)
Odd? Really? Would you give the police five interviews w/o representation and then take the stand against the advice of your attorney? A yes or no answer please. Odd how he gave so many lawyer free interviews to the police and on TV too but didn't want to testify in court.
#67. To: randge (#62)
wow, but Zimmerman had no reason whatsoever to be suspicious of Trayvon's behavior that night....again, defenders are making excuses for him, but his purchasing of two ingredients needed to make LEAN is an indictment to me.
#68. To: All (#66)
O'Mara was with Z for the Hannity interview. Odd how he gave so many lawyer free interviews to the police and on TV too
#69. To: All, WATCH (#67)
#70. To: purplerose (#53)
He was on the phone with the cops when he got out of the car to provide details as to where Martin had run. Why was Martin running? Why didn't he just run home like his buddy told him to do? If Martin felt so much threat why wasn't he on the phone with the cops instead of Zimmerman? They call the cops.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#71. To: All, Here is your conspiracy (#68)
#72. To: GreyLmist (#2)
I think a good case could be made, though, for open carry instead of concealed carry by Neighborhood Watch patrols because that might prevent others being similarly shot by surprise If he was on his own porch why the hell didn't he just go inside? Why do you make excuses for his running off the porch to confront and assault Zimmerman if this is what you believe to be true? Yes, open carry may have prevented Trayvon from assaulting an armed man. Yes, Trayvon would not have then been surprised to find he assaulted an armed man. was on the porch at his own home before the confrontation with Zimmerman
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
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