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Title: An Open Letter to the Parents of Trayvon Martin
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Published: Aug 6, 2013
Author: Glenda Wells
Post Date: 2013-08-06 00:10:23 by James Deffenbach
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Ms Fulton, Mr Martin I mourn your loss more than I can possibly say but let's be clear. Your son had as much opportunity to walk away as Mr Zimmerman did but chose instead to be aggressive himself. Just as a reminder, Mr Zimmerman did not use Stand Your Ground as a defense. The facts are indisputable that your son was on top and pounding Mr Zimmerman. Your son was not stalked. Mr Zimmerman was judged in a court of law to be not guilty therefore no punishment is warranted. Your son was depicted by the media as a young boy and portrayed as an innocent but let's be honest. We know that was not a true picture. Instead we learned you're son was a drug dealer and petty thief. Where were you when he should have been learning respect? Where were you when he needed the kind of guidance that would make him a good and decent man? Your efforts now seem like the desperate reach of parents trying to make up for in death what they failed in life. To think otherwise would paint you as a crass and heartless people looking for personal gain on the grave of a soul lost too soon. I am the Florida state coordinator for Gun Rights Across America. I represent more than 2,000 law abiding citizens who believe in our God-given right to defend ourselves, our families and our property against the kind of aggression displayed by your son that awful night and by countless thugs and criminals across the nation every day. GRAA has the support of thousands of members in every state and we have the backing of millions more in hundreds of Patriot and Constitutional groups around the country. We will fight any effort designed to give thugs and criminals power over law abiding citizens. We have no duty to retreat. We will not run and hide. We are many. We are mighty. And we vote. Respectfully and with heartfelt sadness. Glenda Wells
Gun Rights Across America, Florida State Coordinator
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#2. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#0)
This author is not being honest, imo. Although I suspect this to be a Masonic-linked Op to stir up racial conflict, what's considered the reported evidence indicates that Martin (who had committed no "Running Man" crime that night by hurrying through his neighborhood to get home and out of the rain) was on the porch at his own home before the confrontation with Zimmerman. There are no witnesses that Zimmerman was aggressively struck first in the scenario -- just his word. That someone claimed it appeared to them that Zimmerman was being beaten while pinned to the ground doesn't mean they might not be mistaken or lying. Zimmerman's clothing did not look in film footage like he'd been on the wet ground, he requested help to restrain someone who most likely wouldn't even have been moving at that point and he tried to stop that person who had arrived with a flashlight from calling the police for help. That Zimmerman was reportedly in charge of patrolling the area for months and didn't know the names of the streets indicates he may have been motivated more by vigilantism than his safety duties. I think a good case could be made, though, for open carry instead of concealed carry by Neighborhood Watch patrols because that might prevent others being similarly shot by surprise during what was seemingly to them an unarmed fight with a probable stalker.
How long had Zimmerman been living in that area? Normally when one is appointed to patrol an area, they are not only fully familiar with their area (including their neighbors) but most of the neighbors also participate in neighborhood watch whether they live in apartment domiciles or own their homes. Another thing that bothers me is this: The moment that Zimmerman got out of his car was the moment he opened himself up to personal danger. Normally, when a resident is patrolling their neighborhood and they see suspicious activity, even if they are armed, they DO NOT EVER get out of their car. They call the cops. And even cops knows this when they see suspicious activity, they do not even get out of their car. Instead, they assess the situation to see of possible danger and then they follow the suspect in the car (not on foot). And I'm all for open carry!
He was on the phone with the cops when he got out of the car to provide details as to where Martin had run. Why was Martin running? Why didn't he just run home like his buddy told him to do? If Martin felt so much threat why wasn't he on the phone with the cops instead of Zimmerman?
Why didn't Zimmerman know the names of the streets he'd been in charge of patrolling for six months when he had lived in that neighborhood for years since 2009? Why didn't Zimmerman simply identify himself to Martin as a Neighborhood Watch patrol? It didn't matter if Martin was walking or running, according to Zimmerman himself in his statements. Martin was suspicious at first because he wasn't walking fast enough to get out of the rain and he was still suspicious for running to get out of the rain and away from being followed. Then Zimmerman changed the story in his Hannity interview to Not running - more like skipping/going quickly but not in fear. Even Hannity thought that didn't sound right and reminded him of his earlier version.
Perhaps he isn't good with street names. Is that so difficult to believe? Hell, I don't remember the names of all the streets in my neighborhood either. Why is recall of street names such an important conspiracy theory aspect? Also it was dark and raining, so he couldn't simply see the street signs. He wanted to give the cop on the phone the correct information...wouldn't you want to do the same?
#157. To: abraxas, All (#82)
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Perhaps he isn't good with street names. Is that so difficult to believe? Hell, I don't remember the names of all the streets in my neighborhood either. Why is recall of street names such an important conspiracy theory aspect? Also it was dark and raining, so he couldn't simply see the street signs. He wanted to give the cop on the phone the correct information...wouldn't you want to do the same? Apparently, there are only 3 streets in the entire complex. Retreat View Circle goes all the way around it circularly and is the street Zimmerman lived on, as well as the fiancee of Trayvon's father on the other side of the neighborhood. Zimmerman lived where a short street named Long Oak Way went in a straight line to Twin Trees Lane, which is the main street that winds from the front entrance of the complex, along the clubhouse and to the back entrance. According to Zimmerman's statements, he knew that he wasn't on the huge, circling street that he lived on. He was on The Long and Winding Road, so it couldn't have been Long Oak Way, the short street that ran directly across from his house to Twin Trees Lane, the street he was on that night, which was the only one left of the three to pick from. He claimed in his police station interview to be unfamiliar with that street name because he didn't live on it [never mind his patrols of the area for months?] and because it was "just a sidestreet" that cut through the neighborhood. But everytime he went in and out of the complex in his vehicle (like his weekly trip to the grocery store, as he said he was doing that night), he would have had to encounter that street intersection, Twin Trees Lane -- the main thoroughfare connecting both gates, which he claimed to be unfamiliar with and so didn't know the name of it. George Zimmerman Sanford Police Interview [Lie Detector/Polygraph] (February 27, 2012) - at 27:12-27:24 of the video for that statement. Map link 1, Map link 2, Map link 3 There is much more than that about his statements which isn't credible. He never had to go beyond the house he parked in front of to get an address number by the garage door and say it was for the main street connecting the entrances or he could have gone a short distance to his left through the walkway between the buildings to get to an address for Retreat View Circle -- a street that he wasn't on but oddly wanted to give as directions for the police. Reference: Reenactment video 7:00-7:45. He did not shoot Trayvon to stop his head from being bashed into the cement. He says that he had moved off the cement and he stated numerous times to the police that he was being suffocated but then the screaming recorded likely wouldn't be his. Turns out that he wasn't even acting as an on-duty Neighborhood Watch Patrol that night and, reportedly, the HOA/Homeowners Association stated that they aren't supposed to be armed there. What he was acting like is a Janet Napolitano "See something, say something" spy/vigilante because someone who actually might still have been unfamiliar with the area was looking around... not walking fast enough in the rain... running... not running... looked out of place. Zimmerman's actions are comparative to the person who got their neighbor killed by the police because she reported him as up and about at strange hours when that was because he worked nights. Edited for spacing and capitalization + timestamp.
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#53. To: GreyLmist (#2)
That Zimmerman was reportedly in charge of patrolling the area for months and didn't know the names of the streets indicates he may have been motivated more by vigilantism than his safety duties. I think a good case could be made, though, for open carry instead of concealed carry by Neighborhood Watch patrols because that might prevent others being similarly shot by surprise during what was seemingly to them an unarmed fight with a probable stalker.
#70. To: purplerose (#53)
They call the cops.
#79. To: abraxas (#70)
He was on the phone with the cops when he got out of the car to provide details as to where Martin had run. Why was Martin running? Why didn't he just run home like his buddy told him to do? If Martin felt so much threat why wasn't he on the phone with the cops instead of Zimmerman?
#82. To: GreyLmist (#79)
Why didn't Zimmerman know the names of the streets he'd been in charge of patrolling for six months when he had lived in that neighborhood for years since 2009?
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