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Title: G.O.P. Health Care Plan?
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A Simple Mind
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Published: Aug 17, 2013
Author: ndcorup
Post Date: 2013-08-17 13:35:16 by ndcorup
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Views: 251
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> G.O.P. Health Care Plan? Aug.17, 2013 If anyone has read of a GOP Health Care Plan, even pieces of one, please list it/them here. I've not read of one. Wouldn't it make sense if the Conservatives (not necessarily Repubs) at least proposed something like : If we defund ObamaCare, here's what we will implement instead ------ A, B, C, etc. If they have done this, I've not read it, and I read a Lot! How about proposing --- A) Keep the mandatory Existing Condition provision B) NationWide Insurer Competition C) Young folks may stay on Parents Plan until 26 D) Offer an ONLY Catastrophic Care Plan Instead of just bad-mouthing ObamaCare, offer a Repub Replacement! Doesn't seem too complicated, is it? Get rid of the "Nasty Disposition Attitude" attached to the GOP these days! Smile and have a PLAN, dammit! > Poster Comment: My $.02 worth!
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#1. To: ndcorup (#0)
Can you show us in The Constitution where the Federal Government is Constitutionally entitled to promote, or provide, ANY healthcare plan? "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Nope! But both "Parties" want to make it a competition for votes, and the repubs aren't even on the table with anything. It can no longer be ignored! "If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
FedGov needs to stay the hell out of my life.
Wouldn't it make sense if the Conservatives (not necessarily Repubs) at least proposed something
#2. To: Southern Style (#1)
"Can you show us in The Constitution where the Federal Government is Constitutionally entitled to promote, or provide, ANY healthcare plan?"
#3. To: ndcorup (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#4. To: X-15 (#3)
I agree 100%! But they won't/didn't. We got ObamaCare! What I'm suggesting is that the repubs beat the dems at their game. Nothing I suggested Costs anything. "FedGov needs to stay the hell out of my life."
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#5. To: ndcorup, Southern Style, all (#2)
The problem is that you assume that Obamacare is a "Health Plan". Where in the intricate maze of Police State Regulations which allow "Home Inspections" and the mandatory use of toxic pharmaceuticals do you find "Heath Care"? Obamacare is NOT about "Health Care". It is about CONTROL. "The Devil is in the details", and the details of Obamacare read like a chaotic representation of the "1984" Hellth Plan. Before you try labeling it, as in the pro-Obamacare propaganda, study up on what this Hellth Plan actually does.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")
#6. To: Original_Intent (#5)
You are, of course, absolutely correct. Obamacare is the Federal Reserve's Vulture, through which their henchmen, the IRS, will pick the bones of this carcass of a country clean. No one should be looking to the Republicans to scrap this thing as they are, every bit, as beholden to the same puppet masters as the Democrats. They will make a lot of noise but will, in the end, do nothing. After-all, the R's control the House and, as such, "the purse strings of government"; if they were really intent on dismantling this obamanation, all they would have to do is de-fund its' implementation. As for my initial response to ndcorup's posting, I'll stand by my assertion that Obamacare is unconstitutional, as is 99+% of the crap "our" representatives do in DC. Obamacare is NOT about "Health Care". It is about CONTROL.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
#7. To: ndcorup (#2)
So don't vote for either of those parties. Nope! But both "Parties" want to make it a competition for votes
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
#8. To: Southern Style (#7)
I don't plan to. "So don't vote for either of those parties."
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#9. To: ndcorup (#0)
Just a few days ago, at a Republican conference, Newt Gingrich scolded his party for not having any alternative health care program. This is probably the first time that I have ever had a reason to agree with the Newt. The govt already has Medicare - in fact, back in 2010, the Republicans promised to "protect Medicare" - then they turned around and said they wanted "to end Medicare as you know it". Not all the voters have short term memory deficencies. When Obama took office, medical/hospital bills were among the principal reasons for individual bankruptcies, and there were scandals about group insurance programs having companies fire certain employees whose family medical crises were cutting into profits. So the Republicans enter the next election cycle with people remembering how they tried to sabotage Medicare, tried to sabotage Affordable Health Care, had no plan of their own .... and they may even remember from Ron Paul's appearance in a 2012 debate where Republicans in the crowd yelled "Let him die!", even shocking old Ron.
#10. To: Shoonra (#9)
I now remember some note of that. It went no where also. I still think the repubs better come up with some razzle dazzle costs nothing Plan that includes at Least the Existing Condition and up to 26 y.o. portions of the current abortion or all of us will be living with the Whole ObamaCare mess. "Just a few days ago, at a Republican conference, Newt Gingrich scolded his party for not having any alternative health care program. This is probably the first time that I have ever had a reason to agree with the Newt."
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#11. To: ndcorup (#10)
I think the Republican health care plan involves Sarah Palin explaining what the Alaskan Eskimos do with their old folks when they get too sick to pull their own weight.
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