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Title: Overpasses For Obama's Impeachment, Two Patriots Arrested
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyV_8BKwrlc
Published: Aug 18, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-08-18 23:25:46 by Horse
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#6. To: Horse, Greymist (#0)
1st off, Fuck Obama and EVERYONE ELSE IN D.C. OK, just in case anyone was wondering, THERE AIN'T NO CONSTITUTION AT THE BANK. The bank (FEDERAL RESERVE) owns the FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY and you. All events are taking place within the bank and NOT THE ORGANIC place called America. Try to comprehend that the so-called Constitution was set up under an honest monetary system of gold and silver coinage, which comes from the earth (land) and wherever this system operates there is common law (supreme law of the land) and potential for a Constitution. It's called CHOICE OF LAW. Choice of law is dependent upon the MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE employed by the parties. The commercial paper we call money dictates the usage of commercial law. (Greymist, the CON sti-stupid is a red herring to some degree and keeps patriots from actually refusing to cooperate with the criminal motherfuckers in D.C.) As long as the population uses FRNs and FEDERAL CREDIT or takes benefits from the FEDERAL (reserve) GOVERNMENT - get used to being told what to do or not do by assholes like the cops in this video because you are a fucking slave to the conveniences and niceties provided to you by the nigger - Uncle Sambo ! Look in the mirror to locate the REAL PROBLEM !
There's got to be something we can do besides that. Do you have a Plan B?
Most people think the (constitution or better stated lack of it) problem that we must address is political. It's not at all political. It's commercial. If we want a constitutional / common-law form of government we have to stop doing business with criminals. (The system that has so many trapped is a commercial bank that acts in some matters like government by providing some services but is no less A BANK. This bank has the ability to rule over us (and most others on earth temporarily) through its ability to create fictional money and credit that we Americans are addicted to because armed forces are employed to insure it. People pretend that they have no responsibility for the mass slaying of women and children all over the world necessary to provide them their conveniences yet most refuse to accept that their lifestyle or standard of living REQUIRES IT. The BANK pretending to be government steals the wealth of other nations by force and lets a few crumbs be spread amongst those that support it, Americans. It truly is that simple but most people are either afraid to leave the system or refuse to address the problem because they're dependent on it or somewhat comfortable with it. People like to bitch about the way things are but refuse to actually do that which is necessary to correct it. The constitution itself even provides the liberty to decide for ourselves by stating plainly that we have the right to contract without interference. FEDERAL enslavement is by contract. EDIT: Stop and think for a moment, FRNs are an internal bank (accounting) device. What people fail to notice (or refuse to admit) is that they've been dragged INTO THE BANK (and away from their constitution) through any of a myriad of agreements / licenses / contracts.
So, you're saying there that the bank is holding Americans hostage through their faux agreements / licenses / contracts -- or maybe you think those are valid devices. I don't think the capture of our people, our economy and our nation is valid. The question is: How do we free them? Edited sentence 1.
Doesn't matter much what I think. What does matter is how courts rule. How do we free them? I guess we could go to war with them (bad idea) or just quit participating in their financial system, don't apply for their permission to do anything, work for cash as an independent contractor, quit all so-called government programs. For some this will be very difficult. We do have choices. We can continue to finance the military industrial murdering complex or not. Sure, there may have to be sacrifices made - but what about all of those people that are having their lives destroyed or ended ? Truth is no one should accept FRNs for wages. They're "debt" instruments. It's going to take time, determination and a lot of patience to turn the country around but conducting business as usual ain't gonna get it done. Once one becomes accustomed to being out of the system it becomes second nature and not difficult at all.
You: I guess we could go to war with them (bad idea) or just quit participating in their financial system, don't apply for their permission to do anything, work for cash as an independent contractor, quit all so-called government programs. For some this will be very difficult. We do have choices. We can continue to finance the military industrial murdering complex or not. Sure, there may have to be sacrifices made - but what about all of those people that are having their lives destroyed or ended ? Truth is no one should accept FRNs for wages. They're "debt" instruments. It's going to take time, determination and a lot of patience to turn the country around but conducting business as usual ain't gonna get it done. Once one becomes accustomed to being out of the system it becomes second nature and not difficult at all. Sorry for the delay in checking my pings. Without an alternative system, there are many people like the elderly and handicapped who couldn't make it in your model. Even people who are able to work can barely survive now as it is. What do you think about this Alaska model of provisions as a start but in an alternative currency? I think some Native Americans have a similar system apportioned by total revenues: America needs a basic income guarantee Today we have more than 14 million Americans unemployed with no evidence to back up the claim that we can create jobs for everyone who wants one. Machines are doing work people used to do. Jobs are not coming back. Some families are six months from poverty. To rely on jobs and economic growth does not work. Job creation is a completely wrong approach because the world doesn't need everyone to have a job in order to produce what is needed. We need to rethink the concept of having a job. When we say we need more jobs, what we really mean is we need more money to live on. Indeed, the state of Alaska has given an annual cash grant to its people for the past 30 years of between $800 and $2000. Edited for spelling.
Your post made me think about the conditions that we have as opposed to what we need to have. I'm not one for supporting a free lunch. However, a society that works together towards a goal of self sufficiency and independence for all of the people should be able to share in the wealth they help create. I honestly think Hitler did this and the shylocks had to kill him for it, before the entire world shook the kike bankers off their asses like dingle berries.
That's great news at sentence 3 and the part at #20, too, about Americans standing together. :) To help educate people towards independence and freedom (like you also said at #20) by thinking BIG/Basic Income Guarantee without confusing it as a "free lunch", I'd say that we need to not just rethink the concept of having a job (as the article at #16 said) but also the concept of what a job is in terms of what's needed for a well-functioning Societal Economy, rather than just a Business Economy of dependency and scarcity for profiteering motives. For instance, in a Societal Economy, everybody could participate in contributing to the maintenance and advancement of it -- even children, the elderly and handicapped because their needs and participation provides many jobs for others. So, a Basic Income Guarantee for them should not be considered like a "free lunch". In order for other people to work best at their jobs for the benefit of society, they should not be in distress about survival needs, so a Basic Income Guarantee for those able to work should not be considered a "free lunch" either but like the tools needed to be optimally and positively productive for society. Also, instead of doing nothing, if someone can churn butter by hand even though a machine could do it more efficiently but that's not available, then at least they would be doing something constructive which could keep costs down in other areas like Crime-Policing and such. Years ago and somewhere else, I suggested something like a dividend-sharing plan among Constitutionalits based on America's estimated resources with the object being for the shares to grow smaller as more people joined in as loyalists to the Constitution. As the membership grew, the resource dividend would be less but a societal dividend would greatly increase. Wasn't much interest in that as an option but we've discussed others here with alternative currencies and even precious metals eventually that I think are workable. What say you on which way we should go from here? Edited last sentence of paragraph 1.
If we don't awaken a bunch more people here, many will be headed to FEMA camps, graveyards, and other not so pleasant destinations.
Waking people up before there's something in place that they can turn to for better options with something they can do might discourage some and others might impede the process by not seeing how it could work. I think the faster we start building it, though, the faster they'll get there in droves. :)
#28. To: GreyLmist (#27)
I'm discouraged that anything more than on a personal/family level will ever yield good results...and should it begin to do so, fedgov will murder all that are involved. You know the stories as well as I.
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#11. To: noone222 (#6)
Look in the mirror to locate the REAL PROBLEM !
#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)
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#14. To: noone222 (#12)
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Stop and think for a moment, FRNs are an internal bank (accounting) device. What people fail to notice (or refuse to admit) is that they've been dragged INTO THE BANK (and away from their constitution) through any of a myriad of agreements / licenses / contracts.
#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)
or maybe you think those are valid devices.
#16. To: noone222 (#15)
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Me: How do we free them?
a guaranteed income -- or Basic Income Guarantee -- is not discussed much anymore. But it remains, as the late economist Milton Friedman always maintained, the most practical and sensible way to end poverty in America and provide economic security to all Americans.
#22. To: GreyLmist (#16)
#25. To: noone222 (#22)
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Your post made me think about the conditions that we have as opposed to what we need to have. I'm not one for supporting a free lunch. However, a society that works together towards a goal of self sufficiency and independence for all of the people should be able to share in the wealth they help create.
#26. To: GreyLmist, noone222, Esso, 4 (#25)
What say you on which way we should go from here?
#27. To: Lod (#26)
If we don't awaken a bunch more people here, many will be headed to FEMA camps, graveyards, and other not so pleasant destinations.
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