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Title: Mike Rivero & Kevin Barret discuss Sept. 11th ''Million American March Against Fear"
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Published: Aug 25, 2013
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Propagandists promoting fear about the 'Million American March Against Fear'
Spokesman clears the air about the September 11th March in D.C.
LibertyFight.com
August 25, 2013

Establishment propaganda outlets on both the left and right are in a frenzy about the 'Million American March Against Fear' scheduled for September 11, 2013 in Washington D.C. In reality, the march, initiated by the American Muslim Political Action Committee [AMPACusa.org], is intended to bring people together and defend our civil liberties in the aftermath of 9/11/01.

A message on the AMPAC website states, in part, "Al-Qaeda" is a joke. And so is the whole "war on terror." If the United States of America is to remain a constitutional democratic republic, the American people need to stop being afraid. They must stop being afraid of each other. And they must stop being afraid of the truth. Please join the Million American March Against Fear in Washington, DC on September 11th, 2013."

Dr. Kevin Barrett, National Spokesperson and Director of Media & Outreach for AMPAC, was a guest on the WhatReallyHappened.com radio show with Michael Rivero on Thursday August 22. Here is the interview, in two separate clips. Barrett's personal website is TruthJihad.com and he has a radio show also.

The interview is from Thursday 8/22/13, hour 3.

PART 1/2: Dr. Kevin Barrett on WhatReallyHappened.com radio

PART 2/2: Mike Rivero interviews Dr. Kevin Barrett about Million American March Against Fear

The 'about us' section on the Million American March Against Fear website states, in part,

"Many non-Muslim Americans are terrified of Muslims, who are portrayed by Hollywood and the US media as fanatical terrorists. Muslims, too, live in fear – of being dragged off in the night to Guantanamo and tortured, simply for the crime of being Muslim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

After discussing the matter with both Muslim and non-Muslim leaders last week, the American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) has decided to abandon the “scary” Million Muslim March. Instead, it will launch a Million American March Against Fear. The march will still target the White House in Washington, DC. And it will still be held on September 11th, 2013.

Why march against fear on 9/11?

September 11th, 2001 was the beginning of a new era of fear. Since 9/11, Americans have been terrorized by the media. They have been taught to fear their neighbors. They have been inculcated with fear of other religions. They have been brainwashed into fearing people with brown skins, turbans, and foreign accents.

The BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares explains how global political elites have embraced the politics of fear. As the BBC film explains, all of this fear is based on myth, not reality. The BBC even admitted: “Al Qaeda is a myth.”

Whether or not Al Qaeda is completely mythical, the so-called “Islamic terrorist threat” is pure hallucination. FBI statistics prove that Americans are far more likely to drown in their bathtubs, or be hit by lightning, than to be killed by terrorists of any kind. And Muslims commit only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US – fewer than are committed by radical Jews, and vastly fewer than those perpetrated by leftists and hispanics.

There is no reason for Americans to be afraid of Muslims.

And Muslims should not be afraid of non-Muslim Americans. Most Americans are generous, tolerant, and committed to American ideals of religious freedom. It is only a certain faction of American elites who have hijacked the nation and turned it away from its Constitution.

It is time to tell the politicians that we are not afraid of each other – or of them.

It is time for us to stop cowering in our homes, and take to the streets.

It is time to join together and reject the politics of fear.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

Just last month there was supposed to be a demonstration by a thousand "ex-gays" to attest that homosexuality can be "cured". After much fanfare, ten (10) demonstrators showed up, not all claiming to have been gay.

The Million Muslim March, on Sept. 11th of all dates, will probably get a few hundred genuine Muslims (probably most of them the Farrakhan kind), while a few hundred more may find that Sept 11th is not the best date to reserve an airline ticket.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-08-25   16:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan, *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE* (#0)

This is the kind of revolt that the Psychotic Elites (Banksters & Psychs) fear most - a nonviolent revolution of the spirit and it reflects a growing recognition by ordinary people that they are not powerless.

This works on a variety of levels:

Violent suppression - as in killing a lot of protesters tips their hand. They are prepared to go against a violent confrontation but their plans are upset by large numbers of people standing up against the tyranny being imposed, but by means other than violence. That is one of the reasons I have, and will continue to do so, counseled against violent confrontation.

As the movement spreads people will become more emboldened to stand up for what is right and just. That is the true spirit of the original American Revolution which the elites fear most. They are attempting to impose a total tyranny but the spirit of our ancestors still lives.

If they attempt violent suppression that backfires on another level as it would make the country ungovernable from above. Of course the Libertarian in me sees this as a heartening development.

They, the psychotic tyrants, are beginning to lose and the signs of a revolution of the spirit are beginning to manifest themselves as more and more people awaken to the reality that a very small Psychotic Elite is creating a "Hell On Earth", and taking humanity down a road to oblivion (and horrors most people are unwilling to imagine). However, many people of stronger mental, and more importantly - spiritual, constitution are beginning to gather a whiff of the coffee. For the average person the scale of the evil now ascendant is something which they cower from and will not confront. However, to paraphrase an outlaw in the Old West on the Eve of his Hanging, knowing you are going to die powerfully concentrates the mind. The reality is that we either overcome the tyrants or die, and THAT IS the reality.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   16:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

There is no reason for Americans to be afraid of Muslims.

And Muslims should not be afraid of non-Muslim Americans. Most Americans are generous, tolerant, and committed to American ideals of religious freedom. It is only a certain faction of American elites who have hijacked the nation and turned it away from its Constitution.

It is time to tell the politicians that we are not afraid of each other – or of them.

It is time for us to stop cowering in our homes, and take to the streets.

It is time to join together and reject the politics of fear.

Just amen!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   16:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra, Artisan (#1)

Just last month there was supposed to be a demonstration by a thousand "ex-gays" to attest that homosexuality can be "cured". After much fanfare, ten (10) demonstrators showed up, not all claiming to have been gay.

The Million Muslim March, on Sept. 11th of all dates, will probably get a few hundred genuine Muslims (probably most of them the Farrakhan kind), while a few hundred more may find that Sept 11th is not the best date to reserve an airline ticket.

Please continue to preach defeat. It is amusing to watch you attempt to engage in pettifoggery to dull the rising awareness of an ever growing number of people, and create an air of hopelessness in attempting to resist. That his is happening alone is a heartening sign for those of us who oppose the imposition of a totalitarian regime. Even ten years ago such talk would have been verboten and censured heavily by the Sheeple, and Provocateurs (as yourself). Oh, and "fags" are very low down on the awareness and action scale. I suspect much of what has been called "Gay Rights" is PsyOps (like Radical Feminism - which was funded with "seed money" by the CIA) to further degrade the society and pull us down while acting as a meme against the will to resist. I am not surprised that there is little enthusiasm for it.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   16:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Read this:

2012thebigpicture.wordpre...-1st-sept-2013-game-over/

Not just his opinion that the "game is over 9/1/2013," but the list of facts and claims posted at the bottom of the article. I, for one, believe most or all of them to be true.

christine  posted on  2013-08-25   16:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

Whoa.

I have nothing to refute anything there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   17:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#2)

The reality is that we either overcome the tyrants or die, and THAT IS the reality.

Well, we all die anyway whether there are tyrants or not,. ;-)

As bad as things are, I actually have a more skeptical view of the apocalyptical type scenarios and don't think it will come to that anytime soon, or even in our lifetimes.

I think it is a slow burn with societal gradualism (degredation).

just like it has been the past century(ies).

of course the real battle for good men is to not only oppose evil & expose corruption in worldly affairs, but to make sure that our own soul is in order with God and be ready to meet our maker,. Since after all, the 'evil' (aka sinfulness) is not something we're just pointing outwards at in condemnation, but rather it is something that is within each of us.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-08-25   18:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#7)

Since after all, the 'evil' (aka sinfulness) is not something we're just pointing outwards at in condemnation, but rather it is something that is within each of us.

We acknowledge, confess, and ask forgiveness.

It will be granted to us. Amen.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   18:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, 4um (#5)

Read this:

2012thebigpicture.wordpre...-1st-sept-2013-game-over/

Lookie here what I found when I did a search for 'who owns Klamath Lake?'.

THE WHOLE THING IS A PACK OF LIES.

Still not sure who owns Klamath Lake, yet.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-25   18:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Esso (#9) (Edited)

Please write when you figger out the truth of the matter.

Thanks much, lod

I'm too tired to work on it tonight.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   18:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#10) (Edited)

Please write when you figger out the truth of the matter.

Seems to be a dead end. All the inquiries into ownership return results of variants of Chrissy's post. Searching just Klamath Lake show nothing.

Edit: To sum up in your vernacular, US f*cked.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-25   19:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Please continue to preach defeat. It is amusing to watch you attempt to engage in pettifoggery to dull the rising awareness of an ever growing number of people, and create an air of hopelessness in attempting to resist.

I am so tired of asshats just hanging around making comments about this and that, as if just them being there is going to make any f#@&ing difference at all. I am glad that they are amusing themselves. Quite frankly I'm sick to death of it.

john stadtmiller  posted on  2013-08-25   19:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

Quite frankly I'm sick to death of it.

I guess that's pretty much going to be par-for-the-course in a country where the vast majority of the population relies on a goob paycheck/handout for its existence.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-25   19:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

I am so tired of asshats just hanging around making comments about this and that, as if just them being there is going to make any f#@&ing difference at all. I am glad that they are amusing themselves. Quite frankly I'm sick to death of it.

On one level I agree wholeheartedly, and on another (as an aficionado of "bot tossing") I nevertheless find them amusing. The problem of course for "agenda posters" is that they are limited in what they can say or do by their agenda and the need to remain covert. That makes them very vulnerable as they are constrained by that artificiality and are forced to remain "in character". Once you spot one you can roast them on a regular basis. However, the more frantic they become the more you can know that they are losing. I learn a lot from them without their realizing what I'm learning. ;-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   19:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#9)

hmmmm. so all the facts/claims are debunked there. well, sh!t. who knows what to believe. i guess we'll all know some time. or not. until then, i'm just going to dance.

christine  posted on  2013-08-25   19:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

well, sh!t. who knows what to believe.

No kidding. Whenever pope/jesuit/illuminati are mentioned, I tend to ignore it as a deflection away from the JIZ that are actually the problem.

Anyhoo, nothing is as it seems. This isn't the country I grew up in. Maybe it never was.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-25   20:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#7)

The reality is that we either overcome the tyrants or die, and THAT IS the reality.

Well, we all die anyway whether there are tyrants or not,. ;-)

As bad as things are, I actually have a more skeptical view of the apocalyptical type scenarios and don't think it will come to that anytime soon, or even in our lifetimes.

I think it is a slow burn with societal gradualism (degredation).

just like it has been the past century(ies).

I'm on the fence at this point, and it depends upon your "definition of apocalypse". ;-)

Right now we are balancing on the razor's edge. If the would-be tyrants (psychotics) have their way the social collapse could be sudden and catastrophic. Here I'm looking to the branch of science/mathematics known as "Chaos Theory" and the key phrase "a sensitive dependence on initial conditions", or alternatively "The Butterfly Effect". In a nutshell a complex system in a non-equilibrium state, say for example our current "culture", can make unpredictable swings amplifying a small perturbation orders of magnitude beyond the actual change. The classic example, from meteorology, is a Butterfly flapping its wings and as a result of that small input throwing off the weather across an entire continent. (For a good read pick up a copy of James Gleick's book, Chaos: Making a New Science).

So, to make a long story short we are now hanging on the edge. Whether we're going to make it across the precipice or fall into it is yet to be completely resolved.

And my viewpoint, if I might offer a different nuance, is that our actions here and now are ultimately weighed on the balance. How we choose to conduct our lives whether living in the light or dark is something which we cannot escape. That is why the atheists are so determined to deny the existence of God because they fear, at least subconsciously, that they will be held to account, and that simply "dying" does not end it. There is no "Get Out of Hell Free" Card. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   20:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#17) (Edited)

I revisited the movie "Threads" last night. Grim.

I first saw it on HBO at my girlfriend's parent's house. We've been married 27 years now.

Edit: Threads was aired on 1984, one Sunday night at 9pm to an unsuspecting UK TV audience, it single handedly put the nation off the nuclear war effort and was then quitely removed from the archives until 2002. Threads redefines the word grim and is hard to imagine what sort of impact this would have had on its viewers given its from an era in TV when there was only 4 channels and a Mary Whitehouse mentality towards censorship.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-25   20:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Esso, 4 (#11)

Seems to be a dead end. All the inquiries into ownership return results of variants of Chrissy's post. Searching just Klamath Lake show nothing.

Edit: To sum up in your vernacular, US f*cked.

Only if we let it be effed.

There are more of us than there are of them.

We Are The Resistance.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   20:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#5)

2012thebigpicture.wordpre...-1st-sept-2013-game-over/

Not just his opinion that the "game is over 9/1/2013," but the list of facts and claims posted at the bottom of the article. I, for one, believe most or all of them to be true.

An interesting read. While he cites chapter and verse the defacto reality is not quite the same as the theoretical one. Yes, the IRS is a private entity (Incorporated in the Territory of Puerto Rico), but no it is not part of the UN. On paper it is semi-autonomous (publicly misrepresented as part of the US Treasury - you can do that when you own the guffermint) but is ultimately controlled by the Feral Reserve which is in turn controlled by Rotchild Inc..

Agenda 21 is all too real, and while not all of the minute details are in the public record there is enough in the record to know that it is not being done for our, meaning the general mass of humanity, benefit. And yes Hitlery Klinton is one of the most insanely evil women on the planet. They really do want to reduce the population of "useless eaters" (which includes everyone but the small group of psychos in their cabal) by about 80 to 90 percent (depending up which resource you use). We can already see how they are trying to force people into cities with high tax levies and land use restrictions. Neither of which is legal were our Constitution actually enforced as originally written (although the States could claim the right to assess but it could be challenged in most jurisdictions, but with the corrupt maze that are our courts - good luck).

While a lot of what the author claims is true, the interpretation of some of the references are open. As well, given that the original Constitution prohibited most of the claims used to subvert it, the theories regarding the effect of various illegal rulings and orders is highly questionable. However, that brings us back to the most glaring flaw in our Constitution which is that there is no legal way to challenge illegal actions by the guffermint other than by the toothless "Right to Petition for Redress of grievance". That and $1.95 will get you a cup of coffee.

The upshot is that the writer has created a maze which would take a lot of time to refute or clarify item by item. I would simply offer, as I have in the past, that good disinformation is mostly true with only a few percentage points of out and out falsehood included. Rush Limbaugh is a master at it. Whether this piece is willful disinfo or simply misinterpretation is open. What raises my eyebrows the most though is the tactics in the piece i.e., the use of valid information to draw invalid conclusions. Also the use of needless complexity. The writer assumes several premises, such as Vatican control, which are at best speculation. As well the article avoids all mention of the Banksters or Psychs who are ultimately pulling the strings, and are the philosophic fountainhead of the idea that we are all animals and hence cattle to be herded and slaughtered.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   21:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Esso (#18)

I once worked through several scenarios as plotting for a novel. It is grim stuff - so grim that once I had a lot of the implications worked through I shelved the idea for the book - too depressing. :-(

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   21:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)

Earlier today I was thinking of writing a novel, sort of a parody on the Japanese soldiers in the Pacific who kept fighting for decades after the end of WWII, only in my book, the characters would be Soviet agents, stationed not in the Pacific, but in the US State Department, ivy league universities, and the mainstream media. I guess it would be more of documentary.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-08-25   21:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dakmar (#22)

I guess it would be more of documentary.

Indeed, it would.

Print it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-25   21:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Last July 4th we were told there'd be a million armed Americans on the Washington Mall; as far as anyone can tell, there was maybe one and even he was several blocks from the mall. Lots of times there have been promises of many thousands, or even millions, coming to DC .... and it turned out not enough for a pick-up baseball game. I expect something similar for what was originally a "Million Muslim March" and is now called a "Million American March".

Shoonra  posted on  2013-08-25   21:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Shoonra (#24)

I'll wait and pass judgement after I see the facts on the ground. However, the protests against the conquest of Iraq were vast and the media did everything they could to minimize and under report the numbers in attendance.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-25   21:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

I'm an asshat that thinks hanging around is going to make a huge difference. I intend to save the world.

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to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

wakeup  posted on  2013-08-28   3:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#5) (Edited)

I meant to respond to your comment mush earlier than today but I've been real busy ... whether or not the entire article is true ... I do believe the Papacy plays a far more impacting role is establishing the NWO than most would suspect.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-08-28   8:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wakeup (#26)

I'm an asshat that thinks hanging around is going to make a huge difference.

Me too except I think I'd win if I took 2 of the MFers to the dirt nap convention.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-08-28   8:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wakeup (#26) (Edited)

I intend to save the world.

I've been trying to save maybe a total of five or six acres of it since the housing crash/depression started.

After expending over a million dollars worth of my company's resources, I can tell you with a great deal of certainty, I'm losing.

The world doesn't want saving. It's in our nature to destroy ourselves.

Anyway, I'll keep trying. It gives me something to do.

Edit: I'm trying to learn some life lessons by observing 5 spiders on my property (Maisie, Dulcy, Hattie, Kit and Cookie). It's amazing what a quarter inch spider can accomplish unencumbered by gov't. Kit built a web that scales equivalent to the Golden Gate Bridge. Managed that without OSHA, too. The engineering and execution is amazing.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-28   8:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Esso (#29)

Is there any oil/natural gas on your property?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-28   9:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dakmar (#22)

Earlier today I was thinking of writing a novel, sort of a parody on the Japanese soldiers in the Pacific who kept fighting for decades after the end of WWII, only in my book, the characters would be Soviet agents, stationed not in the Pacific, but in the US State Department, ivy league universities, and the mainstream media. I guess it would be more of documentary

Their progeny has been fruitful and successfully multiplied...metastasized is actually a better word for these domestic enemies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-08-28   9:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Esso (#29)

5 spiders on my property (Maisie, Dulcy, Hattie, Kit and Cookie). It's amazing what a quarter inch spider can accomplish unencumbered by gov't. Kit built a web that scales equivalent to the Golden Gate Bridge. Managed that without OSHA, too. The engineering and execution is amazing.

Posted at Rense and Zen-haven: 3 minute YouTube of an Australian Peacock Spider, dancing like an Air-Traffic Controller wearing a mask.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-08-28   9:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#30)

Is there any oil/natural gas on your property?

The city owns all mineral rights. It's a felony to even have a water well in the city limits.

FWIW, it's not my property I'm trying to save. It's others who are elderly, disabled or otherwise disadvantaged by the corrupt system. I'm fine.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-08-28   9:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Esso (#33)

Best wishes and good luck with everything.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-28   9:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent, Shoonra, Artisan, christine, Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, Lod, All (#4)

Much as I loathe to agree with Shoonra on anything, I think on this specific issue - ie. the proposed Million Muslim March - shoon may have it right. Muslims in America - apart from the "nouveau" Farrakhan kind - will not want to raise their profile to ridicule and/or criticism by associating themselves with a protest march, especially one set for Sept. 11. That would open old wounds US-wide. By and large Muslims in America have nothing to protest - they have it as good or as bad - depending on your definition of good/bad - as the rest of us non-Muslims. There's considerably more discrimination shown to young white Christian males by schools, colleges, gov't departments, media, Hollywood, businesses 24/7/365 than there is to Muslims in America.

What I believe would be a more effective protest campaign - that would benefit Muslim civilians still living in the ME - to whom the US and its allies show definite racism and discrimination by bombing them and their cities to smithereens in perpetual wars - is a protest of with holding money from the War Machine and using the Internet to get the message out to Americans - to shut 'er down for one day - like a Saturday - wherein Americans in all 50 states for 24 hours do not buy anything, do not watch any TV or any Hollywood films or listen to radio prop. It could be a teaching point to the DC critters and the WH. The 1 day shut down protest could be labeled "No $ for War" or "No War in our Name or On our Dime". And if the DC critters and the WH ignore the Shut Down, then do it the following Saturday and Sunday. I guarantee you that if we all sat on our hands for 3 days in a 7 day period, we'd get DC's attention - 50 state governors would be burning up the phone lines to the WH about all the tax revenue they were losing by the lack of commerce.

Maybe Vlad the Impaler can give Snowden permission to leak all US email addresses that the NSA has stored, so the Shut 'Er Down protest organizers can send a message to all Americans via email about the Saturday date for the "No $ for War" campaign.

The elites fear the Internet like The Plague - to the elites the Internet is the Genie that's been let out of the bottle - they see its vast power that little people like us can use to transmit Truth to one another.

Why not use the power of the Internet to send a message to the elites that America is our country and that we have the Power to Shut Down Their War Machine, so listen up greasy Fat Head Critters.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-08-28   13:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: scrapper2 (#35)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-28   14:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

Somehow my "Great Idea!" prop got lost in the interweb...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-08-28   14:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: scrapper2 (#35)

"No War in our Name or On our Dime"

That is a good slogan, one I would gladly support.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-08-28   15:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: scrapper2 (#35)

i agree with you. your ideas are very good, but, of course, the problem is that there is a large majority of americans dependent on the war machine and fed gov so it would be impossible to get the critical mass we need to participate in this effort.

christine  posted on  2013-08-28   20:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: scrapper2, christine (#35)

Why not use the power of the Internet to send a message to the elites that America is our country and that we have the Power to Shut Down Their War Machine, so listen up greasy Fat Head Critters.

I think it already has - at least in the case of Syria. Oh'bummer is busy looking for a "face saving" exit strategy because too many "inconvenient truths" got out and were widely covered.

The problem of course is that we are dealing with a psychotically insane bankster elite. By definition psychotics do not compute rationally. Rational people do not kill thousands to millions of people to make a buck selling the tools of war. Sane people do not establish large scale depopulation plans that require a mass die off of a majority of humanity. What is really ironic is that everything I just said is documented in publications of the UN, CFR, and other Globalist/Bankster documents. This is no conspiracy theory it is documented conspiracy fact. Read the documents establishing Agenda 21 and its goals, read "Limits To Growth", and then keep reading. There are thousands of pages of documents. It simply requires the desire to know, and the courage to confront the insanity of the Bankster's true agenda. Take a look at the Georgia Guide Stones. They are not a conspiracy theory they are a physical fact. However, you are already aware of most, if not all, of this. What the elites fear, as you pointed out, is that too many people are becoming aware, AND there are growing numbers of people who are working to do something about it.

And it is real easy to spot the people/groups who are being effective - they are the ones who are being attacked in the media.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-08-30   3:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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