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Title: Verify chemical weapons use before unleashing the dogs of war
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Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/29/v ... re-unleashing-the-dogs-of-war/
Published: Aug 29, 2013
Author: Kenneth Timmerman
Post Date: 2013-08-31 19:59:13 by scrapper2
Keywords: impeachable offenses, falsified CW report
Views: 205
Comments: 12
The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war. According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report. The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus. The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable in Washington, DC. According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother. However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite. The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say. According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present. The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated. The New York Times reported this morning that the White House is now backing off its claims to have a “smoking gun that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to the attack.” The new argument is more deductive: since the Assad regime has chemical weapons and chemical weapons were used in Mouadhamiya, therefore the Syrian regime must have been the ones to use them. But even that line of reasoning falls down when confronted with evidence known to the U.S. intelligence community, and presumably, to Congress. An Egyptian intelligence report describes a meeting in Turkey between military intelligence officials from Turkey and Qatar and Syrian rebels. One of the participants states, “there will be a game changing event on August 21st” that will “bring the U.S. into a bombing campaign” against the Syrian regime. The chemical weapons strike on Moudhamiya, an area under rebel control, took place on August 21. “Egyptian military intelligence insists it was a combined Turkish/Qatar/rebel false flag operation,” said a source familiar with the report. The White House has gone to great lengths to shut down any independent investigation of the facts. A UN inspection team was on the ground in Damascus on August 21 when the Moudhamiya attack occurred, where they were awaiting authorization from the Syrian government to visit sites of earlier alleged chemical weapons attacks. Once word of Moudhamiya broke and the inspectors announced they planned to refocus their investigation on the fresh attack rather than the earlier ones, the White House was telling the UN to back off from gathering the facts. According to Monday’s Wall Street Journal, a senior administration official called UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon before the inspectors ever left Damascus, “telling him the inspection mission was pointless and no longer safe.” The inspectors attempted to visit Mouadhamiya on Monday to examine victims, but were turned back by sniper fire in the no man’s land between government and rebel positions on the outskirts of Damascus. After replacing their bullet-ridden armored car, they inspectors drove into Mouadhamiya for a hurried inspection of victims presented to them by rebel forces. But even that inspection turned out to be inconclusive, which may be why the Obama White House didn’t want it to proceed. The UN Special Envoy for Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, was circumspect in speaking to reporters yesterday on what the inspectors had actually found on the ground. “With what has happened on the 21st of August last week, it does seem that some kind of substance was used that killed a lot of people: hundreds, definitely more than a hundred, some people say 300, some people say 600, maybe 1,000, maybe more than 1,000 people,” Brahimi said. But he would not say that the substance was the deadly nerve agent Sarin, or describe how it was delivered. Earlier inspections by the United Nations were also inconclusive. In May, a member of the United Nations commission investigating chemical weapons in Syria said there was “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof” that sarin gas had been used in Syria against civilians. “What appeared from our investigation was that it was used by the opponents, by the rebels,” said Carla DelPonte, a former Swiss Attorney General and prosecutor with the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. “I was a little bit stupefied by the first indications we got … they were about the use of nerve gas by the opposition,” she added. Agents provacateurs are as old as warfare itself. What better than a false flag attack, staged by al Qaeda and its al Nusra front allies in Syria, to drag the United States into a war? The brutality of the Syrian regime’s assault on its own people is indefensible. But given the inevitable backlash from Iran and the possibility of spillover into Israel, we should gather the facts before unleashing the dogs of war. Poster Comment: Paging Boehner! Please pick up the Impeach Obama House Speaker's phone! Call waiting for you about Obama falsifying CW reports to thrust America into an illegal war of aggression. Wake up, Bonehead, and get your butt into gear!
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#1. To: All (#0)
IMO, taking our country to war using falsified reports meets the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. I'll bet some Demrat Senators might even vote for impeachment because these daily revelations about how the US has tried to frame Syria is taking a toll on the Demrats image with US voters at large. The Demrat senators and critters are taking on a very pungent odor, by virtue of being tied at the hip to Obama who is currently coated with sh*t from head to toe.
Nevermind that confusing double-talk by the article author. This section is reminiscent of the Reagan-era bombing of Libya: The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel- controlled suburb of Damascus. The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable in Washington, DC. According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother. However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite. The Other Side of Deception is a follow-up book to By Way of Deception from Victor Ostrovsky, who claims to be a former Mossad agent with operational knowledge THE LAVON AFFAIR - IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF Operation Ephraim: How the Mossad Tricked US into Bombing Libya -- book excerpts How Mossad Got America To Bomb Libya And Fight Iraq -- Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy, 12- 6-3 The listeners would have no doubt they had intercepted a genuine communication, hence the name Trojan, reminiscent of the mythical Trojan horse. Further, the content of the messages, once deciphered, would confirm information from other intelligence sources, namely the Mossad. The only catch was that the Trojan itself would have to be located as close as possible to the normal origin of such transmissions, because of the sophisticated methods of triangulation the Americans and others would use to verify the source. Edited to expand sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
LOL! Git r done, Bonehead! Paul Craig Roberts
Couldn't have said it better. Paul Craig Roberts
This nation has never waited for verification prior to jumping into war..... Did the USS Maine really get bombed? Gulf of Tonkin incident... Heading into Iraq over non existent WMD's to "liberate" the people from former friend Saddam....... Frickin' Arch Duke Ferdinand assassination... Every war is pre-planned and the excuse to get into it is pre-planned. This current "situation" with Syria is no different than the others with the exception of the Internet exposing the farce much more quickly. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
yep
STRATFOR? “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
STRATFOR? I don't know. Compare to this, reported at blacklistednews.com: US-Israeli False Flag Gas Attack Unravels Or did he? Could the rebels have staged the attack in order to draw in an attack on al-Assad? Could the pictures have been faked? Could a third party, hoping to bog the United States down in another war, have done it? The answers to these questions are important, because they guide the U.S. and its allies’ response. The official explanation could be absolutely true–or not. – Stratfor Email 28 August 2013 Excerpt from a Comment by Mike Rivero at WRH: "When Stratfor blinks, you know you are looking at a false flag operation gone hideously wrong." ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
True, in recent wars you list. And I read today in a Israeli newspaper that Israel is pissed because Obama is "setting a precedent of sorts" and Israelis are mad as all get-out that the same thing - Congressional debate and vote - will come up re: attacking Iran. I love it! Thank you, President Obama!
Thanks. Rivero nails it. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Thank the internet and citizen reports for exposing this FFop to such an extent that even the moron in chief had to pull back.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#2. To: scrapper2, All (#0)
(Edited)
The brutality of the Syrian regime’s assault on its own people is indefensible. According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.
In mid-February 1986, the Mossad allegedly planted a radio relay device – the “Trojan” – in a rented apartment in Tripoli, the capital of Libya.
According to Victor Ostrovsky, a Mossad defector now living in Canada, Ronald Reagan was tricked into bombing Libya by means of a radio transmitter smuggled into Tripoli by the Mossad, which broadcast messages designed to fool the United States into thinking Libya was about to launch a massive terror attack on the west. On the basis of this fake evidence, the US bombed Libya, killing Khadaffi's daughter.
A Trojan was a special communication device that could be planted by naval commandos deep inside enemy territory. The device would act as a relay station for misleading transmissions made by the disinformation unit in the Mossad, called LAP, and intended to be received by American and British listening stations. Originating from an IDF navy ship out at sea, the pre- recorded digital transmissions could be picked up only by the Trojan. The device would then rebroadcast the transmission on another frequency, one used for official business in the enemy country, at which point the transmission would finally be picked up by American ears in Britain.
#3. To: scrapper2 (#0)
Paging Boehner! Please pick up the Impeach Obama House Speaker's phone! Call waiting for you about Obama falsifying CW reports to thrust America into an illegal war of aggression. Wake up, Bonehead, and get your butt into gear!
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#4. To: scrapper2 (#1)
The Demrat senators and critters are taking on a very pungent odor, by virtue of being tied at the hip to Obama who is currently coated with sh*t from head to toe.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#5. To: scrapper2 (#0)
#6. To: abraxas (#5)
Every war is pre-planned and the excuse to get into it is pre-planned. This current "situation" with Syria is no different than the others with the exception of the Internet exposing the farce much more quickly.
#7. To: GreyLmist (#2)
The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community...
#8. To: Lod (#7)
The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community...
I never thought I’d see the private intelligence arm of the US state, Stratfor utter the following but I think it’s another indication of a false flag plot gone seriously amiss that only an immediate attack on Syria could have masked:
Stratfor’s job is to analyze the world as objectively as possible, and the situation in Syria is among the most difficult we have seen. The problem is we really don’t know what happened. The general consensus is Syrian President Bashar Assad ordered the use of chemical weapons against his enemies. The problem is trying to figure out why he would do it. He was not losing the civil war. In fact, he had achieved some limited military success recently. He knew that U.S. President Obama had said the use of chemical weapons would cross a red line. Yet Assad did it.
#9. To: abraxas (#5)
This nation has never waited for verification prior to jumping into war...
#10. To: GreyLmist (#8)
#11. To: scrapper2 (#9)
#12. To: scrapper2 (#0)
Message from our troops.......
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