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Title: I LOVE Watching MIC Presstitutes Get SMACKED DOWN By A Real Journalist :)
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Published: Sep 1, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-09-01 13:32:43 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Too bad they never got around to the "no zio-bank" problem with all those countries...

Hillary did kick ass.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   14:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse, All (#0)

Excellent debate. Thanks for posting.

That one gal named Hillary Mann Leverett took on the other 3 liars and wiped the floor with them.

I wish she were in elected office. She has the kind of quick thinking mind and passion for America's best interests and knowledge about US law and int'l law that We The People need in Congress.

She also shows that we can and we should learn from History and not repeat our previous mistakes. ( she served under both the Clinton and the George W. Bush administrations and learned from mistakes done due to lies, falsifications of evidence, and herd mentality, etc)

This is a must see video clip for all Americans to watch.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-09-01   14:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)

What you said, bump.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   14:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1)

Too bad they never got around to the "no zio-bank" problem with all those countries...

The last time Ron Paul addressed the crowd in Tampa, the crowd started chanting, "END THE FED, END THE FED". ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-01   14:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent, abraxas, christine, Jethro Tull (#0)

Ping!

scrapper2  posted on  2013-09-01   14:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings, 4 (#4)

"END THE FED, END THE FED"

The world needs to exterminate the filthy zio-bankers.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   14:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod, Horse, all (#1)

Too bad they never got around to the "no zio-bank" problem with all those countries...

Exactly. In looking for the root causes we always, always, always, have to dig into the background for the actual cause. Inevitably there is always a third party agitating for conflict which unseen by the antagonists. In the case of most of the wars of the 19th, 20th, and current centuries one can always find the hand of the Banksters and the large armament manufacturers (generally owned by the Banksters) agitating for conflict so as to fatten further their already swollen bank accounts with the money from ever more needless death and suffering. They are a blight upon humanity's collective ass - a festering pustule begging to be lanced.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-09-01   14:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7)

In looking for the root causes we always, always, always, have to dig into the background for the actual cause. Inevitably there is always a third party agitating for conflict which unseen by the antagonists. In the case of most of the wars of the 19th, 20th, and current centuries one can always find the hand of the Banksters and the large armament manufacturers (generally owned by the Banksters) agitating for conflict so as to fatten further their already swollen bank accounts with the money from ever more needless death and suffering. They are a blight upon humanity's collective ass - a festering pustule begging to be lanced.

It was the Rothschilds (aka Citigroup/Citibank) who caused the start of both WW I and WW II.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-01   14:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#7)

They are a blight upon humanity's collective ass - a festering pustule begging to be lanced.

You are too kind, by far.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   15:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Horse (#0)

Well. Hillary Mann Leverett sure was a turd in that neocon punchbowl, she ruined the whole meme of "War, War, War!".

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-09-01   15:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2, All (#2) (Edited)

US law and int'l law

At 13:27-15:25, there is a discussion about Responsibility to Punish/Responsibility to Protect.

Responsibility to Protect [aka R2P or RtoP] was also mentioned at the 4um topic, Syria: A catastrophe in the making. It is defined at the Wikipedia link as:

a United Nations initiative established in 2005. It consists of an emerging intended norm, or set of principles, based on the claim that sovereignty is not a right, but a responsibility.[1] R2P focuses on preventing and halting four crimes: genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing, which it places under the generic umbrella term of mass atrocity crimes.[2] The R2P has three "pillars":[3][4]

1.A state has a responsibility to protect its population from genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing.
2.The international community has a responsibility to assist the state to fulfill its primary responsibility.
3.If the state manifestly fails to protect its citizens from the four above mass atrocities and peaceful measures have failed, the international community has the responsibility to intervene through coercive measures such as economic sanctions. Military intervention is considered the last resort.

In the international community R2P is a norm, not a law, however it is grounded in international law.[5][6] R2P provides a framework for using tools that already exist, i.e. mediation, early warning mechanisms, economic sanctioning, and chapter VII powers, to prevent mass atrocities. Civil society organizations, States, regional organizations, and international institutions all have a role to play in the R2P process. The authority to employ the last resort and intervene militarily rests solely with United Nations Security Council.

Out of the UN now. It does not have any Constitutionally legitimate power or authority to convert America's Military into a Global Police Force and Protection/Punishment Racket.

Edited for formatting. P.S. Out of NATO too for the same reason.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-01   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)

1.A state has a responsibility to protect its population from genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing.

This is exactly what Assad is trying to do!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   15:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

1.A state has a responsibility to protect its population from genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing.

This is exactly what Assad is trying to do!

I agree.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-01   15:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#12)

Notice, too, that rebels attempting to overthrow a valid government are not what even the UN ventures to codify in terms of a "Right to Protect" but "the state". In America, it should be understood that Unconstitutional government is not valid government.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-01   16:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#13)

Key here is that it's "A State's responsibility", not some other State's responsibility to buttinsky.

Makes me want to run naked, screaming in the street...well, that's an overstatement...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   16:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#15)

Key here is that it's "A State's responsibility", not some other State's responsibility to buttinsky.

Yes, that is key at #1. It's at #2 and #3 where they try to internationalize the state's responsibility. In America, rebels have long been moving to overthrow our Constitution, which is our valid government, and the state here is not the property of those insugents. Would the UN move to protect Constitutional America and Americans from their genocidal crimes? Not likely. The UN has been working with them.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-01   16:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BTP Holdings (#8)

In looking for the root causes we always, always, always, have to dig into the background for the actual cause. Inevitably there is always a third party agitating for conflict which unseen by the antagonists. In the case of most of the wars of the 19th, 20th, and current centuries one can always find the hand of the Banksters and the large armament manufacturers (generally owned by the Banksters) agitating for conflict so as to fatten further their already swollen bank accounts with the money from ever more needless death and suffering. They are a blight upon humanity's collective ass - a festering pustule begging to be lanced.

It was the Rothschilds (aka Citigroup/Citibank) who caused the start of both WW I and WW II.

You left out the Crimean War - which took the Ottoman Turks down a bit and then finished destroying them (as opposition to Rotchild designs) in WWI.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-09-01   21:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#9)

They are a blight upon humanity's collective ass - a festering pustule begging to be lanced.

You are too kind, by far.

I have to admit that I am, on occasion, given to understatement. I guess I'm too old fashioned. ;-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-09-01   21:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#12) (Edited)

Comment on Syria by an Iraqi Christian

Shame on the US/UK - you never learn from your mistakes. As an Iraqi Christian, with family in Syria who fled Iraq after the consequences of your invasion, It's a case of deja vu all over again.

Please explain one thing to me, why is the West interested in dismantling secular states in the middle east and replacing them with Islamist-fascist states?

In Iraq, you replaced a secular state, where there was freedom of religion, and my people lived peacefully, with a theocratic Iranian backed government compounded by Wahabbi and Salafist elements that never existed in the country prior to your invasion. Now Iraqi Christians are murdered en masse and cannot worship freely - actually, all Iraqis are being murdered on en masse.

Do you not understand that your 'democracy' is not attainable in the middle east? Religious and tribal differences do not permit it. In Iraq, we were happy with the social freedoms under Saddam Hussein - even if it came at the sacrifice of political freedoms. Now, neither exist.

President Bashar Al-Assad welcomed Iraqi refugees with open hands, he gave free housing, education, food and medical care. He had to deal with the consequences of your erroneous decision in invading Iraq. This man and his wife, are not the monsters made out to be by the Western media and governments, funded by the Israeli, Qatar and Saudi masters.

In Syria, secularism is entrenched in the state, there is freedom of worship for Jews, Christians and all Islamic sects. Your governments try to divide and destabilise by labelling 'allawites', 'sunnis' and 'shiites'.

Why have your government and it's gulf allies exported Wahabbi and Salafi extremists to Syria, like you have done in Iraq? Look at what is happening to the Syrian Christian population, the oldest in the world. It's no surprise that Syrian Christians have formed militias to defend Assad - if he goes, they will be massacred, even worse than what has occurred in Iraq.

One day, you will receive appropriate blowback for all your actions in the middle east, for destroying secular states, the murder of countless of people by the importation of Islamist extremists - who will eventually turn on you.

Your governments are slaves to the gulf, to their petro-dollars, your governments don't even have the dignity of Assad or Saddam Hussein, since they're beholding to corporate interests and act upon their interests - not yours.

Shame on you for promoting backward Islamist fascism. The social freedoms under Bashar Assad and those that existed under Saddam Hussein are greater than any political freedom (which never existed anyway) after the US invasion of Iraq or the ultimate end game in Syria.

What is happening in Syria is not the work of the Syrian people, It is the work of imported Jihadi mercenaries by the gulf from the Maghreb (Libya, Morocco), Chechnya, Bosnia, etc. But keep trying to frame it as the Syrian people against the Gov - if that were the case, Assad would not be in power today but he retains the majority of the Syrian people's support.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-09-01   21:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GreyLmist, Lod, all (#16)

Key here is that it's "A State's responsibility", not some other State's responsibility to buttinsky.

Yes, that is key at #1. It's at #2 and #3 where they try to internationalize the state's responsibility. In America, rebels have long been moving to overthrow our Constitution, which is our valid government, and the state here is not the property of those insugents. Would the UN move to protect Constitutional America and Americans from their genocidal crimes? Not likely. The UN has been working with them.

That is the way it is - the UN was, from its inception, a Bankster creation. Just take a quick look at Agenda 21 and so-called "Sustainable Development" - translation: Force people into tight enclaves where they are dependent upon the goobermunt to ensure that life sustaining necessities such as food, water, and utility services are available. Further translation: Forcing Humanity into the modern day equivalent of slave holding pens.

Oppose governmental tyranny? "Well, no food and water for you."

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-09-01   21:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: X-15, Lod, all (#19)

Syrian Christians are forming militia's to fight FOR Assad, they know that if his secular government falls that the Christians will be Target #1 by the various muslim fanatics, as happened in Iraq, Libya, Egypt. America keeps trying to foist "democracy" on a part of the world that doesn't need it or want it. The arrogance of America, and by extension Israel, is breathtaking.

You can't conquer a world without breaking (a few billion) eggs. /Sarcasm

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-09-01   21:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)

See above, I posted the whole article I got that from.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-09-01   21:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: X-15 (#19)

A most excellent question to US.

Look to the zio-bankers for the answer.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-01   21:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: scrapper2 (#5)

Thanks for the ping, scrapper.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-09-01   23:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BTP Holdings (#8)

It was the Rothschilds (aka Citigroup/Citibank) who caused the start of both WW I and WW II.

I still remember the lie they told us in school about how World War I started. Someone assassinated Archduke Ferdinand of Austria?!?! Who the ef had ever heard of him and why would America get involved in a war because of something like that?

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-09-01   23:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#17)

You left out the Crimean War - which took the Ottoman Turks down a bit and then finished destroying them (as opposition to Rotchild designs) in WWI.

Oh, how silly of me to have left this out. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-02   12:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#25)

I still remember the lie they told us in school about how World War I started. Someone assassinated Archduke Ferdinand of Austria?!?! Who the ef had ever heard of him and why would America get involved in a war because of something like that?

I have a couple of books here which were written by a man named Houston Stewart Chamberlain. They are titled, "The Foundations of the 19th Century". Now, if I recall their content, they tell of how things were arranged to make the countries of Europe into what we know today. These are rare books to say the least. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-02   12:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#25)

I still remember the lie they told us in school about how World War I started. Someone assassinated Archduke Ferdinand of Austria?!?! Who the ef had ever heard of him and why would America get involved in a war because of something like that?

Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said, "Walk softly, and carry a big stick." ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-02   12:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BTP Holdings (#28)

Yes, I have read that. Never actually heard him say it, guess I am not as old as you, ahaha.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-09-02   15:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: X-15, All (#19) (Edited)

Comment on Syria by an Iraqi Christian

One day, you will receive appropriate blowback for all your actions in the middle east, for destroying secular states, the murder of countless of people by the importation of Islamist extremists - who will eventually turn on you.

Doesn't sound Christian to me. Sounds like Orwellian-speak: Unremittant Collective Punishment for the West over our malfunctioning politicial structures but worse than errant for the West to war against other nations with less than perfect systems too, for any reason -- even when implored to do so by those regionals. This is another example of why our Armed Forces should never again be used by the so-called "international community" as Global Policers.

I'm going to estimate this person's animus has saved about zero Syrian lives from "interventionist" strikes so far but the British Parliament vote certainly has -- although that seems to count for nothing in their seething view.

Shredder:

How many casualties of the West have lost their lives, been made to suffer as Political Prisoners or have otherwise had their lives demolished to challenge the tyrannies in our countries that are also harming the rest of the world? Probably too many to count at this point. So, I think we should have like a reflective day annually because, evidently, people such as the letter-writer and whoever else might be cluelessly fixated on blowback aren't going to sufficiently acknowledge any of them if we don't.

Edited sentence 2 + spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-02   15:41:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GreyLmist (#30)

How many casualties of the West have lost their lives, been made to suffer as Political Prisoners or have otherwise had their lives demolished to challenge the tyrannies in our countries that are also harming the rest of the world? Probably too many to count at this point. So, I think we should have like a reflective day annually because, evidently, people such as the letter-writer and whoever else might be cluelessly fixated on blowback aren't going to sufficiently aknowledge any of them if we don't.

Blowback, or unintended consequences, are often overlooked. They frequently have dire results for those on the receiving end. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-02   21:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GreyLmist (#30)

Great, great, comment - thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-09-02   21:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BTP Holdings (#31)

Blowback, or unintended consequences, are often overlooked. They frequently have dire results for those on the receiving end. ;)

Pic link

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-02   21:36:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#32)

Thank you, Lod. :) Luckily, I was still able to correct for a spelling error while I was here.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-02   21:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#20) (Edited)

the UN was, from its inception, a Bankster creation. Just take a quick look at Agenda 21 and so-called "Sustainable Development" - translation: Force people into tight enclaves where they are dependent upon the goobermunt to ensure that life sustaining necessities such as food, water, and utility services are available. Further translation: Forcing Humanity into the modern day equivalent of slave holding pens.

Oppose governmental tyranny? "Well, no food and water for you."

You know that theory about advanced civilizations being here in prehistoric times and seemingly vanishing? I have to wonder sometimes that perhaps, if there's any truth to that, they might have decided they'd rather go back to living "primitively" and start over without their technologies than have to deal with barbaric Tyrannosaurs like Bankster Gangsters and Agenda 21 cultists and such.

Edited to reword last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-03   7:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent, Lod (#20)

Quoted at #20 from #16: Key here is that it's "A State's responsibility", not some other State's responsibility to buttinsky. - Lod

Yes, that is key at #1. It's at #2 and #3 where they try to internationalize the state's responsibility. In America, rebels have long been moving to overthrow our Constitution, which is our valid government, and the state here is not the property of those insugents insurgents. Would the UN move to protect Constitutional America and Americans from their genocidal crimes? Not likely. The UN has been working with them. - Me

Just wanted to correct that strikethrough typo.

Here's something from zengardner's site that might be refreshing for visitors.

Breakthrough: Radio Wave-treated Water Works “Miracles”

Amazing Water & Sound Experiment #2

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-03   8:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GreyLmist (#33)

That is a neat quote. I was not talking about forgiveness, but I see the point.

Blowback is the result of interfering in the affairs of other nations when not requested by that nation to do so. The blowback could come from the gov't or from private parties. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-03   19:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GreyLmist (#30)

Comment on Syria by an Iraqi Christian

One day, you will receive appropriate blowback for all your actions in the middle east, for destroying secular states, the murder of countless of people by the importation of Islamist extremists - who will eventually turn on you.

Doesn't sound Christian to me. Sounds like Orwellian-speak: Unremittant Collective Punishment for the West over our malfunctioning politicial structures but worse than errant for the West to war against other nations with less than perfect systems too, for any reason -- even when implored to do so by those regionals. This is another example of why our Armed Forces should never again be used by the so-called "international community" as Global Policers.

I'm going to estimate this person's animus has saved about zero Syrian lives from "interventionist" strikes so far but the British Parliament vote certainly has -- although that seems to count for nothing in their seething view.

Gimme a break.

This person's "animus" is directed at our support of a brand of Islamism that has succeeded in wiping out Christian denominations in the ME that have survived and prospered there since the dawn of Christianity.

There's nothing Orwellian about it & I'd be pissed off too.

What smug keyboard warrior prattle that is to wag your finger at the victims of this kind of terror. After all it isn't your church that's been burned to the ground, your wife raped, your husband shot or your kids executed for belonging to the wrong faith.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-09-03   19:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#38)

Gimme a break.

Should be enough breaktime by now, according to my watch. I thought some about just saying, "Go to Hellen Waite with that blowback attachment," but decided against it. Reckoned the clerical thing to do would be to keep both of those topical correspondences together in the same place, so that's where they are for the time being. Cheerio, Sir Surly... /s ...

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-24   5:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GreyLmist (#39)

Sometimes ya just blow yer stack.

We like to say, "They've been fighting each other like this for centuries." But we've caused more hell than the region has seen in millennia.

Christians practically wiped out there after 2000 years. I've known quite a few. It's beyond grim.

Makes you kinda surly. ;]

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-09-24   7:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#40)

It's beyond grim.

Yes, it is. WWJD?/What Would Jesus Do? Something to think about in our quests for peaceful remedies...

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-24   20:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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