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Title: Chapter Seven United Nations Charter
Source: Wikipedia
URL Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapte ... _of_the_United_Nations_Charter
Published: Sep 14, 2013
Author: Wikipedia
Post Date: 2013-09-14 20:18:01 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: None
Views: 716
Comments: 21

See the link for more information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_VII_of_the_United_Nations_Charter


Poster Comment:

The players in the Syrian affair are now invoking Chapter Seven of the U.N. Charter. Read it and weep. ;)

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#2. To: BTP Holdings, All (#0) (Edited)

Landmark Deal: US, Russia agree on dismantling Syria chem weapons

US-Russia reach landmark deal on destruction of Syria chemical weapons arsenal

Kerry outlined several points of the plan, which would see the “rapid assumption of control by the international community” of Syria’s chemical weapons. He further stressed US-Russia commitment to the complete destruction of not only of Syria’s chemical weapons arsenal, but also its production and refinement capabilities.

Syria will also become a party to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which outlaws their production and use. On Saturday, the UN said it had received all documents necessary for Syria to join the chemical weapons convention and that Syria would come under the treaty in 30 days starting on October 14.

Damascus must submit within a week’s time – “and not 30 days” – a complete inventory of related arms, “including names, types, and quantities of its chemical weapons agents, types of munitions, and location and form of storage, production and research and development facilities."

...Syria must destroy all of its weapons. It was possible that the Syrian rebels have some chemical weapons, [Kerry] acknowledged.

The Syrian government should provide the OPCW, the UN and other supporting personnel “with the immediate and unfettered right to inspect any and all sites in Syria.” Lavrov later said that security for all international inspectors on the ground should be provided for not only by the government, but opposition forces as well.

Although President Assad immediately acquiesced to the Russian-backed plan, rebel forces have resisted efforts which have staved off Western intervention in the country.

On Saturday, the Free Syrian Army rejected a US-Russian deal as a stalling tactic and vowed to continue fighting to topple the Assad government.

The Russian-American initiative does not concern us. It only seeks to gain time," said Salim Idriss, the chief of the FSA command, said.

We completely ignore this initiative and will continue to fight to bring down the regime," he told a press conference Saturday in the Turkish city of Istanbul.

If Damascus fails to comply with the plan, a response in accordance with UN Charter Chapter 7 will follow, Kerry said, in a reference to the use of military force. The chapter provides for "action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security" in the event other measures fail.

Reference at Post #1: so-called Customary international law

States are typically bound by customary international law regardless of whether the states have codified these laws domestically or through treaties.

In short, there is no sovereignty of nation states at the UN. Nation states can only opt out of UN dictats at the threat of force. "Rebels" are apparently free to make war on nation states and commit war crimes against the citizenry too, as long as they act as security guards for UN inspectors. If the "FSA" can escalate enough conflict to impede Syria's ability to comply with the imposed time limits (which would likely be a strain even for countries with no internal strife), then the UN and its lackeys intend to reward them with the deployment of America's Military to assist them. Such a deal. /s

Out of the UN now, America.

Edited for highlighting and punctuation.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-16   5:15:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

Looks as if I've really opened a can of worms by posting this stuff. ROTFLOL!

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-09-16   18:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#3) (Edited)

Looks as if I've really opened a can of worms by posting this stuff. ROTFLOL!

The U.N. should be dissolved like the League of Nations was.

Edited to expand the sentence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-21   15:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GreyLmist (#9)

The U.N. should be dissolved like the League of Nations was.

At the least, US should stop funding it.

Lod  posted on  2013-09-21   15:53:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#10) (Edited)

The U.N. should be dissolved like the League of Nations was.

At the least, US should stop funding it.

Yes. "Cliff Notes" on these sources: The U.N. is imposing as International Law (at the threat of force/war) whatever it claims at whim to be a "civilized custom/norm", treaty or no treaty. It insists, for example, that the defunct League of Nations' Geneva Protocols banning chemical weapons are still binding even if countries aren't signatories of it but Syria, which is a Geneva Protocol signatory, is being threatened with war and not the remaining UN member states, which have not acceded or succeeded to the Protocol.

The NRA is asking for donations to help it prevent an Anti-2A treaty being signed and ratified. Not only does it seem more concerned about money than the Unconstitutionality of that, it seems unconcerned too that it doesn't matter, according to the U.N., if there's a formal treaty or not about something that it wants enforced.

Edited to try and correct the link but still not working right. Scroll down to the Non-signatory states chart for that Geneva Protocol info at the Wikipedia site.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-21   17:32:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: All (#12)

Responsibility to protect

(R2P or RtoP) is a United Nations initiative established in 2005. It consists of an emerging intended norm, or set of principles, based on the claim that sovereignty is not a right, but a responsibility

In the international community R2P is a norm, not a law, however it is [allegedly] grounded in international law.

The authority to employ the last resort and intervene militarily rests solely with United Nations Security Council.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-21 17:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#12)

The NRA is asking for donations to help it prevent an Anti-2A treaty being signed and ratified. Not only does it seem more concerned about money than the Unconstitutionality of that, it seems unconcerned too that it doesn't matter, according to the U.N., if there's a formal treaty or not about something that it wants enforced.

huffingtonpost.com 04/02/13: UN Adopts Landmark Arms Treaty To Regulate Multibillion-Dollar Global Weapons Trade

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-09-24 04:29:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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