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Title: Two U.S. generals ousted over failure to secure Afghan base
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URL Source: http://www.trust.org/item/20130930220317-5j49f/?source=hpbreaking
Published: Oct 1, 2013
Author: Phil Stewart
Post Date: 2013-10-01 05:50:44 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 249
Comments: 10

WASHINGTON, Sept 30 (Reuters) - The head of the Marine Corps on Monday effectively fired two U.S. generals over their failure to defend a major base in Afghanistan from a deadly Taliban attack last year, in an extraordinary and rare public censure.

Two Marines were killed and eight personnel were wounded when Taliban insurgents breached what a military investigation determined was inadequate security at Camp Bastion, in southern Afghanistan's Helmand province.

A four-month investigation concluded that Major General Charles Gurganus, the top Marine commander in the region at the time, and Major General Gregg Sturdevant "did not take adequate force protection measures within the range of responses proportionate to the threat," the Marine Corps said.

Marine Corps Commandant General James Amos asked both men to retire on Monday, speaking personally with Gurganus at the Pentagon and by video-conference with Sturdevant, who was abroad, one Marine Corps official told Reuters.

Both men accepted that request, the official said. U.S. officials could not recall any similar top-level firings in the 12-year-old Afghan war over failure to properly defend a base.

"Every Marine commander must properly position his command and his Marines to both successfully accomplish the mission and defend itself in any clime and place," Amos wrote in endorsing the findings of the investigation by the U.S. military's Central Command.

"We owe this duty to the courageous Marines like Lt. Col. (Christopher) Raible and Sgt. (Bradley) Atwell, who so faithfully served our Corps" and died in the attack, he wrote.

Beyond the loss of life, the Taliban also caused millions of dollars in damage, destroying six Marine AV-8B Harrier jets during a large-scale Taliban attack including use of mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire.

The Central Command review concluded that Gurganus "made an error in judgment when conducting his risk assessment of the enemy's capabilities and intentions."

Sturdevant, who commanded the aviation arm of the Marine force, also did not adequately assess security at Bastion Airfield, the Marines said.

Gurganus had been awaiting Senate confirmation to promotion to the rank of lieutenant general. Amos has recommended that nomination be rescinded and that Sturdevant receive a letter of censure from the secretary of the Navy.

Central Command declined to discuss the results of its investigation until after family were notified.

Camp Bastion is a British-run air base that is connected to the U.S.-run Camp Leatherneck, which serves as the headquarters for the NATO-led mission in southwestern Afghanistan. (Reporting by Phil Stewart; Editing by Eric Beech and Eric Walsh)

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

"ASKED" them to retire?????

Perfumed generals are dime a dozen and they look after each other. Scurvy lot.

Thirty seven years of riding the gravy train.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-01   8:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Now they get to ride that same gravy train even further with a 50% retirement pension.

Half a general's salary is more than the average American makes.

Katniss  posted on  2013-10-01   8:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Katniss (#2)

Half a general's salary is more than the average American makes.

Too many Americans do not realize we have TWO militaries.

The most numerous division is the private to colonel part, the ones that do the bleeding and dying, the ones that do all the heavy lifting.

Then there is the elite star division, the ones that work the system from day one, never getting their hands dirty.

For this, you need a sponsor, someone to grease your ride to the perfumed ranks.

Eisenhower was the perfect and prime example. Never once got his hands dirty.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-01   8:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

Maybe Bama should take a leaf from Comrade Stalin's operating manual.

He knew how to deal with ineffective flag officers.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-10-01   9:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4)

Bama is clueless about a lot of things.

About the military he is totally clueless, in fact he is so naive and stupid that one could invite him to a snipe hunt and he would be there on time. With a lackey to shoot for him and carry his snipe bag.

Course he would have someone to carry his chiken and pok chops.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-01   9:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

He's a reasonably well indoctrinated domestic operative.

He has not demonstrated that he has the ability to wage cold war on a number of fronts effectively.

My fear is that the PTB will demand a replacement far more talented at that game or at least much more pliant to their requirements.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-10-01   9:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#6)

My fear is that the PTB will demand a replacement far more talented at that game or at least much more pliant to their requirements.

Lets look at the background of the past two elections.

Obamas owners WERE POSITIVE THAT A BLACK MAN COULD BE ELECTED WITH WHITE VOTES, BOTH TIMES.

They knew this. They ventured a billion dollars the first time, confirming that voters are indeed brain washed, programmed and not too bright.

Ten million white voters woke up the second time and stayed home, realizing they had been duped, however, they were so programmed that they could NOT vote for some other party.

The people that own and operate this criminal government know full well we of the masses aint too bright.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-01   10:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

But back on topic, I'll bet what got these brass hats fired was the loss of six Harriers to a low tech assault.

At 24 million a copy, that probably caused more indigestion inside the Pentagon than the loss of a couple of marines.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-10-01   11:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#8)

loss of a couple of marines.

Loss of grunts is of no concern to the military nor the government.

Easily replaceable.

The Harriers should have been scrapped long ago.

However, the root cause is the fact that we should have never been in the Middle East.

If one votes, he legitimizes this criminally corrupt government.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-01   11:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

The Harriers should have been scrapped long ago.

Our defense establishment is way ahead of you.

The Harriers are obsolete. They don't cost nearly enough and will be replaced by much more expensive aircraft. The F-35, which has a VTOL version, has cost $1.5 T so far and is already 100% over budget.

That's progress.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-10-01   11:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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