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Title: BREAKING: Shots fired at DeeCee Capitol
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Published: Oct 3, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-10-03 14:27:14 by Jethro Tull
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#32. To: Esso, Cynicom, 4um (#29)

OK, it seems the perp was an 18 y/o girl (likely black) with a kid in the car

Nope. It was apparently a 34 year old dental hygienist from Stamford, CT...

Connecticut woman shot dead outside U.S. Capitol had history of 'mental health issues'; police say there is 'nexus to terrorism'


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-10-03   19:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FormerLurker (#31)

and get a pat on the back after they're done.

Indeed!

I thought it was really bad form for the DC Metro Police Chief to refer to this tragedy as police officers and SS acting HEROICALLY.

Say what? An unarmed young mother (who either panicked after hitting the 1st barricade or who was mentally unstable right from the getgo) was shot to death as she was getting out of her car to surrender - and that's heroic?

blog.al.com/wire/2013/10/...s_police_chase_and_1.html

snip

Cathy Lanier, chief of the D.C. Metropolitan Police, said both Capitol Police and Secret Service officers involved in the chase "acted heroically."

"They did exactly what they were supposed to do," she said of the incident.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-03   19:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: scrapper2 (#33)

"They did exactly what they were supposed to do," she said of the incident.

Yes, kill people for traffic violations. That's SOP in Ft. Wayne too.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-10-03   19:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: scrapper2 (#33)

I thought it was really bad form for the DC Metro Police Chief to refer to this tragedy as police officers and SS acting HEROICALLY.

Say what? An unarmed young mother (who either panicked after hitting the 1st barricade or who was mentally unstable right from the getgo) was shot to death as she was getting out of her car to surrender - and that's heroic?

Well, Cathy Lanier is another big government loving bitch so there is nothing surprising about her thinking goons are heroes.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-03   19:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Obnoxicated (#24)

These people have really whipped themselves into one big foamy froth of paranoia.

Well, we DO want to see pretty much everybody in DeeCee stood up against the wall and shot, or hung from a lamp-post. Maybe they know how much we despise them??

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-10-03   19:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

I'm hoping Vald can get us some weapons that can poke holes in the armored police vehicles

As you're most likely aware, there's a speciality shotgun load called dragon fire- magnesium, IIRC.

Some friends & I have been kicking around the idea of loading shells with thermite.

Any chance that could work?

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-10-03   19:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Buzzard, JT, shooters, 4 (#37)

Thermite, or DU...keep us posted on production of either.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-10-03   19:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Buzzard, Lod, 4 (#37)

As you're most likely aware, there's a speciality shotgun load called dragon fire- magnesium, IIRC.

Some friends & I have been kicking around the idea of loading shells with thermite.

Any chance that could work?

Not a clue, but it's an intriguing concept.

And THIS is exactly how we have to be planning.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   20:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

DC is what percent nigra? Prolly just errant drive-by activity.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-10-03   20:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All, Video of her driving (#39)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLgGf0NxFw&feature=youtu.be

I can see why she got her ass shot.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   20:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Esso, Jethro Tull (#29) (Edited)

OK, it seems the perp was an 18 y/o girl (likely black) with a kid in the car who hit a barricade at the formerly white house (probably texting while driving). Apparently she fled the scene and ended up near the crapitol building where she was gunned down in cold blood by DeeCee's "finest". She was most likely unarmed. The only gunfire was the goob's. By tomorrow it will morph into several hundred of whatever enemy du jour.

Dakmar - psychic detective! (in re post #40)

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-10-03   20:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#40)

She was either on of off her meds, at any rate, it's surprising she didn't run someone over.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   20:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

I'm guilty as hell of not reading this entire thread before posting, was working on the assumption that MSNBCNNBCBS was reporting a heterosexual white male christian suspect all day.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-10-03   20:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#44)

I'm guilty as hell of not reading this entire thread before posting...

Not really. I'm wondering how the MSM morphed the 18 y/o guns blazing, chicky-poo, into a 34 y/o mental, dental hygienist.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-10-03   20:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Dakmar (#44)

Very understandable Dak. We've all be brain fucked by the PropAgenda.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   20:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: scrapper2 (#33)

The Capitol Police were on furlough today, unpaid because of the govt shutdown, yet they showed up for work, unpaid, today and were there to stop this attack on the Congress. An intriguing question is, If the Capitol Police were officially off duty and unpaid today, will any of them get insurance benefits for injuries incurred today?

Shoonra  posted on  2013-10-03   20:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Dakmar (#44) (Edited)

Do you really think the MSM would just come right out and say it was major chimpin' by a moolie? Please, the MSM has lower standards than that......sheesh.....

Then again, it was just another day of "shots fired in D.C. (nigga gone crazy)", it only happened closer to the ruling class today.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-10-03   20:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Shoonra (#47)

I'm sure they're covered up and down, left to right, and who said she was on a mission to destroy congress? I'd bet she was a fully medicated nut bag who probably didn't know if she was driving a Lexus or the lunar moon walker.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   20:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

www.ryot.org/woman-miriam...ide-u-s-capitol-named-34- year-old/401853

A Connecticut woman who tried to ram her way into the White House grounds was shot and killed Thursday as she fled from police in a high speed car chase through the heart of Washington DC that left at least one police officer injured. The woman has been identified by the New Haven Register as Miriam Carey. The 34- year-old dental hygienist from Stamford, who once lived in Brooklyn, had a one- year-old child in the car with her who was not hurt, officials said.

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////

She wanted her Obama-phone and EBT-card DAMMIT!!!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-10-03   21:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

It would take a lot of gall and vanity, for any of the government criminals to really think that who gets shot in DC is of interest to those of us in the outback.

Hire all the goons they can find, it aint worth it.

I love the photo of the large SUV, last in Obama motorcade, with five goons and a machine gun mounted inside, ready to pop out the rear door.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-03   21:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Shoonra (#47)

1. were there to stop this attack on the Congress.

2. An intriguing question is, If the Capitol Police were officially off duty and unpaid today, will any of them get insurance benefits for injuries incurred today?

1. Shoonra, you seem flakier than usual the past few weeks. No attack on Syria got you depressed? Or is it that your egregiously outrageous fedgov pension check has been held back because of the shutdown?

Take a cold shower and wake up. This was a mentally ill, unarmed, young mother who posed zero threat to Congress. She was shot in cold blood, in front of her toddler, as she was getting out of her car to try to surrender.

The only threats she posed were to her toddler in the car and possibly to running over pedestrians if she lost control of her car while driving at a high speed. She should have been charged with reckless driving and child endangerment. She did not deserve to be shot and killed for either charge, imho.

I hope a thorough investigation is done on this needless tragedy and the officers involved should be put on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.

2. Let not your heart be heavy fretting and worrying about the DC police department's pay, Shoonra. I read that DC Mayor Vince Gray deemed all city departments - including police - essential services and they're getting paid through the city's budget.

articles.washingtonpost.c...safety-many-city-services

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-03   21:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#30)

that is a terrible, terrible tragedy...especially for the child of that woman. makes me ill.

7 Miriam Carey Photos - Woman in White House and Capitol Hill Shooting

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2013-10-03   21:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: X-15, Cyni, 4 (#50)

The 34- year-old dental hygienist from Stamford, who once lived in Brooklyn

There you go. A crazed Brooklyn coon. I know the breed well.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   21:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: All (#54)

“Listen, people are so frustrated and angry with members of Congress, particularly Republicans,” Mr. Rangel told Politicker today. “My first thought was that frustration ignited somebody already imbalanced and caused this type of thing.”

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   22:06:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

Video of her driving

If I had at least 6 cops around my truck with their pistols pointed at my head I'd just call it a day and go for whatever justice I could get in the courtroom.

I wonder if they withheld firing at the beginning of this video because she was black?? I'd damn sure expect to get the shit shot out of me if I gunned the vehicle like she did in the video.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-10-03   22:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: X-15 (#56)

I'd shoot her to prevent innocent people from being killed, that vid of her driving insanely is damaging to her cause. I have no idea what was done or said at the scene of the arrest when she was stopped, but it was mentioned above she was surrendering. If that's evident in any way then the cops need to be fitted for orange jumpers. And yes, I get your point about if she were a White guy. He would have assassinated for the speeding charge.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   22:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

“Listen, people are so frustrated and angry with members of Congress, particularly Republicans,” Mr. Rangel told Politicker today. “My first thought was that frustration ignited somebody already imbalanced and caused this type of thing.”

Charlie Rangel is such an a*shat. Was Miriam Carey trying to register for Obamacare in person because the gov't online system was down, Charlie?

Give me a friggin' break.

We don't know the full story about why Miriam Carey went to DC yet. There are some reports in media that she had mental issues. Her photos show her to be an attractive middle class looking young Mom.

But for Charlie Rangel to suggest that this tragedy happened because of "people's" frustration with the Republicans is beyond reprehensible.

Hey, Chrlie, I'm elated with joy with the gov't shut down. And I'm not in the minority of Americans who are sick and tired with Big Gov't and waste of taxpayer $ every which way. The longer the shut down, the better! I'm waiting for a big tax refund for furloughing without pay the 1.7 Million non-essential desk jockey federal employees.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-03   23:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: scrapper2, Jethro Tull (#58)

She must have bought gasoline refined from crude oil from Alaska. I knew this was Sarah Palin's fault somehow.

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus

Dakmar  posted on  2013-10-03   23:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom, Esso (#27)

Many a time I was castigated for not being a good "soger" or a company man. Fought both for twenty five years and lost every battle.

I once had one of the JO's tell me, "....... you are the most annoying man on the ship."

I was so proud I couldn't get my hat to fit right for 3 days. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-10-03   23:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: scrapper2 (#58)

Charlie is a prime example of the Emanuel Theorem; "never let a good crisis go to waste."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   23:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Dakmar (#59)

Sarah Palin

Now that the Obama health insurance exchanges are up and humming, I need to know more about these Death Panels she spoke of.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-03   23:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull, scrapper2 (#61)

Charlie is a good argument for "Post Natal" Abortion.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-10-03   23:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#4)

I don't think they are ready to set things off yet - that is why they keep trying to get the guns.

still too many of those in private hands.


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-10-03   23:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: X-15 (#6)

LOL good one


A study group recently released its findings as to the best presidents of the United States of America.

Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

Reagan and 9 others tied for first, 15 presidents tied for second, 18 tied for third, and Obama came in fourth.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-10-04   0:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: scrapper2 (#52)

Yes, it finally came out (very belatedly) that this woman did not do any shooting, did not have a gun, but she had tried to crash through the barriers at the White House and then led the police on what (in DC) qualifies as a high-speed chase to the Capitol. You may recall that during the Reagan first term some twit in a costume drove a small truck up to the Washington Monument, claimed to have a nuclear explosive in the truck, and staged a standoff for some hours - finally shot by the cops and it turned out had no weapon at all.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-10-04   0:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: RickyJ (#28)

I wasn't refering to the woman getting killed, ricky, but the confusion and panic I saw on the faces outside the capitol building and the cop freaking out and slamming into the concrete barrier for no good reason were comedy gold, my friend.

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-10-04   0:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#60)

I was so proud I couldn't get my hat to fit right for 3 days. :-)

I was happy to know I was doing it all wrong, to me that was success.

Unbelievable were the lifers in the military and forty year men in government.

I was such a good "sojer" that I sold my winter uniforms to a lifer,in four years I never wore a stripe, utter nonsense, a peon is a peon, first class or no class.

The last year I wore a marine corp jacket, said USMC on it, jump boots, a fatigue hat washed so many times my hair stuck out the top.

In the FAA, the "climbers" made me sick.

Groveling was never my bag. I preferred in their face honesty.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-04   2:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull, x-15, original_intent, Obnoxicated, rickyj, christine, lod, cynicom (#57)

I'd shoot her to prevent innocent people from being killed, that vid of her driving insanely is damaging to her cause. I have no idea what was done or said at the scene of the arrest when she was stopped, but it was mentioned above she was surrendering. If that's evident in any way then the cops need to be fitted for orange jumpers. And yes, I get your point about if she were a White guy. He would have assassinated for the speeding charge.

I was in line at my favorite Chinese food place today and I saw the video of this woman in the car. I think that 'patriots' griping about this shooting being an example of tyrannical government are absurd.

it's standard MO for cops to shoot anyone near them in a car who doesnt comply or tries to ram them. not that that response is always necessary of course. but I assumed after watching the vid that the woman was on a purposeful suicide mission. (suicide by cop). Irregardless of what people think of the govt, the govt cant allow maniacs to drive thru barricades towards the white house. only a moron would advocate that.

Incidentally I have a friend who was shot by a cop for allegedly trying to hit the cop with his car. the cop claimed that he was using his car for 'attempted murder of a police officer' and 'assault with a deadly weapon (his Chrysler) against a police officer.' Numerous bystanders and witness at trial testified otherwise & affirmed that Vincent didn't try to hit anyone. Vincent was shot at 3 times, hit,. Blood everywhere and glass in his eyes, he floored it & escaped, then the cops threatened his wife with taking their kids by CPS so she ratted him out. He spent 2 years in twin towers jail in LA under a million+ bail. facing LIFE IN PRISON, he said F all the lawyers & went for broke. and WON. acquitted by a jury on all charges. As I say on my site, my youtube cannel has over 5 million views but this video interview of him, which i conducted, with only 4,000 views is still my absolute hands-down favorite. Photos of his car are here.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-10-04   4:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All, jethro tull (#69)

her sister was a cop.

Carey’s sister Valarie Carey is a retired NYPD sergeant. Outside her home Thursday night, a family spokesman said there was more to the story.

“The family is disturbed by these different things,” Eric Sanders said. “What happened in DC, that’s a whole other part of the story. The family wants that investigated.”

Another sister, Franchette Carey, told The Post, “I know that my sister is in heaven now. She’s a Christian, and she’s in heaven.”

A third sister, Amy, told The Washington Post that Miriam had been home in Connecticut just two days ago when they spoke by telephone.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/03/dc-attacker-a-single-mom-with-every-reason-to-live/

http://www.yatedo.com/s/jobtitle%3A(NYPD+Retired)

http://www.yatedo.com/p/Valarie+Carey/normal/0ad18cadc745b66b9f79a78be8b16f b2

http://www.totmtimeofthemonth.com/

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"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-10-04   5:32:35 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Artisan (#69)

Her working and past mental health history aren't clear as yet, but from everything I've read (as of this AM) she hasn't worked over the past year related to a work injury (she fell on her head). There are also numerous mentions of her being both a very nice person and one who was 'disturbed.' The family rightfully is demanding a full investigation, but what isn't in question is that she drove her car in a way that could have caused the death of innocent people, while at the same time having zero regard for her infant daughter who was in the car. It appears she was given every opportunity to end the matter w/o additional violence, but she chose not to. Again, much more needs to be learned about her and her final moments, but IMO she alone set this deadly ball in motion with her reckless conduct.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-10-04   7:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Cynicom (#68)

I was such a good "sojer" that I sold my winter uniforms to a lifer,in four years I never wore a stripe, utter nonsense, a peon is a peon, first class or no class.

The last year I wore a marine corp jacket, said USMC on it, jump boots, a fatigue hat washed so many times my hair stuck out the top.

Malcontent. Undisciplined. I'll bet you didn't have a sharp crease in your pants.

:)

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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