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Title: House Passes Toothless Resolution After Zionist Baptist Rep 'Urges' DoD to 'Permit' Freedom of Religion
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Published: Oct 6, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-10-06 11:53:17 by Artisan
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I was initially pleased with this and was going to title this story 'Congress passes resolution to allow religious services on military bases during shutdown.' But once I saw the actual 'toothless' resolution and reading the background of its' proponent, I am a bit more cynical. I don't think we need 'permission' from this corrupt, filthy, murderous government to practice our faith. The proponent of this measure is part of the problem. Immediately after entering CONgress, he wrote "As one of our closest allies and friends, Israel should know the United States will always do its part to ensure Israelis are never put in harm’s way," and that United States and Israel must "be fully equipped" to "defend our nations from both military style attacks as well as cyber warfare." [Article continues here.

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Also: Slothful Feds Surfing the internet, surveiling WhatReallyHappened.com during Government "Shutdown" Despite an extremely melodramatic "government shutdown" in which most federal agencies are allegedly 'tightening their belts' and shutting their doors, employees at several of those agencies are spending their time and taxpayer dollars surfing the web at alternative news websites such as whatreallyhappened.com The National Archives And Records Administration and The U.S. Department of The Interior, Office of The Secretary official ISPs were among many which logged onto WRH on Friday from their plush air-conditioned offices. Additionally, other agencies have been busy scurrying about seeking ways to further eviscerate the Constitution. The U.S. Department of Defense Network googled the term "how many people have registered their guns" and the Texas government searched the term " "authority for texas trooper to conduct commercial vehicle inspection without probable cause." official ISP (207.245.177.6) in College Park, Maryland was logged on Friday October 4th, clicking the LibertyFight.com link about the D.C. shooting, which had been featured at whatreallyhappened.com.

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#2. To: Artisan (#0)

Despite an extremely melodramatic "government shutdown" in which most federal agencies are allegedly 'tightening their belts' and shutting their doors, employees at several of those agencies are spending their time and taxpayer dollars surfing the web at alternative news websites

So ridiculous that taxpayers are forced to carry these lazy slugs, who can't get real jobs, on their backs. What are these people doing that's profitable to the Republic, while earning $100,000+ each + medical and dental and vision perks + defined extravagent pensions? Snooping @ non-MSM news sites - give me a friggin' break - and watching porn - how does that make America competitive globally, as Ms. Marian Graddick-Weir ( Merck) said was necessary for America to do? You could fire 75% of Federal employees - including the Pentagon, NSA, Dept of Education, Dept of Interior. the EPA etc etc - and America would not suffer one bit. In fact as we see during this short shut down, the only only thing noticeable is that traffic is better in DC.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-06   12:24:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Alisa Rosenbaum also had an acidic stomach complaint that triggered off excessive disdain, for workers dependent on taxpayer largesse.

Unmentioned by her worshippers is the fact she finished her days living on Social Security and Medicare.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-06   13:00:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Did she piss-away her royalties?

Lod  posted on  2013-10-06   13:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Did she piss-away her royalties?

Indeed, along with her hangerson.

Rosenbaum passed away in league with the human lice of this country, on social security, monthly check to check, and on Medicare while in poor health from her "free soul living".

In New York City, in a cheap apartment, with an Irish last name.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-06   13:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Lod: Did she piss-away her royalties?

Cynicom: Indeed, along with her hangerson.

Rosenbaum passed away in league with the human lice of this country, on social security, monthly check to check, and on Medicare while in poor health from her "free soul living".

In New York City, in a cheap apartment, with an Irish last name.

Cynicom, before you spout off AlterNet rumors, you should double check to see if there is any factual support.

freestudents.blogspot.co....-ayn-rand-and-social.html

"Lying about Ayn Rand and Social Security"

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-06   15:00:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Michael Ford Founding director, Xavier University's Center for the Study of the American Dream".

"However, it was revealed in the recent "Oral History of Ayn Rand" by Scott McConnell (founder of the media department at the Ayn Rand Institute) that in the end Ayn was a vip-dipper as well. An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor).

As Pryor said, "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out" without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn "despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently... She didn't feel that an individual should take help."

But alas she did and said it was wrong for everyone else to do so. Apart from the strong implication that those who take the help are morally weak, it is also a philosophic point that such help dulls the will to work, to save and government assistance is said to dull the entrepreneurial spirit.

In the end, Miss Rand was a hypocrite but she could never be faulted for failing to act in her own self-interest".

If one has time, they might look for a review of one of Rosenbaums books by Whitaker Chambers nearly sixty years ago. Chambers was associated with twisted jewish minds for a long time, so he was well qualified to review the contortions of Rosenbaum.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-07   7:33:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I was curious and like to document things so I went to the link for myself which purportedly 'refuted' the claim that ayn rand went on social security.

In reality the article states no such thing, and as a matter of fact acknowledges that rand was on SS. yet they only criticize whom they call "childish" leftist critics for calling libertarians on it.

whatever the left may or may not think of rand, the fact is nthat they are 100% legitimate for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of demonizing SS your whole life and then accepting it when u get old.

clip: http://freestudents.blogspot.co.nz/2011/10/lying-about-ayn-rand-and- social.html

I found this odd since Rand had commented that people who are forced to fund government programs are NOT immoral for taking the benefits for which they paid. For instance, it is not wrong for people to attend government schools, which are funded with their tax monies, whether they like it or not. They have to start with a false premise: that Rand said receiving Social Security, that one is forced to pay for, was wrong. Without that false claim they have no charge of hypocrisy. They pretend she took a position she never took and then accuse her of violating the position she didn't take.

in 1966 Rand's Objectivist Newsletter said that not collecting from programs that one is forced to finance would be wrong. It said:

Artisan  posted on  2013-10-07   15:22:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't know how it was back when, but a couple weeks before my 65th b'day rolled in a fresh new Medicare Part A card, and then when I was 65, monthly US Treasury deposits were made to our bank account all without my doing anything.

Though the year there were two "accounting adjustments" to the SS payments adding another 7+K to the year's take.

I'll accept their accounting 'cause I haven't a clue...

Lod  posted on  2013-10-07   15:31:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: Lod, Artisan, Randites (#29)

Sir Lod...

Bill Buckley and Whittaker Chambers were far more qualified to expose Rosenbaum as a fraud than myself and most other lice.

This is what they wrote about her......

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Whittaker Chambers on Rand.....

An old National Review article that susses out why we have no business ever taking Atlas Shrugged seriously. To put it simply, Randian philosophy is incapable of being any more than pseudo-intellectualism grounded in unfounded egotism:

Something of this implication is fixed in the book’s dictatorial tone, which is much its most striking feature. Out of a lifetime of reading, I can recall no other book in which a tone of overriding arrogance was so implacably sustained. Its shrillness is without reprieve. Its dogmatism is without appeal. In addition, the mind which finds this tone natural to it shares other characteristics of its type. 1) It consistently mistakes raw force for strength, and the rawer the force, the more reverent the posture of the mind before it. 2) It supposes itself to be the bringer of a final revelation. Therefore, resistance to the Message cannot be tolerated because disagreement can never be merely honest, prudent, or just humanly fallible. Dissent from revelation so final (because, the author would say, so reasonable) can only be willfully wicked. There are ways of dealing with such wickedness, and, in fact, right reason itself enjoins them.

From almost any page of Atlas Shrugged, a voice can be heard, from painful necessity, commanding: “To a gas chamber — go!” The same inflexibly self-righteous stance results, too (in the total absence of any saving humor), in odd extravagances of inflection and gesture-that Dollar Sign, for example. At first, we try to tell ourselves that these are just lapses, that this mind has, somehow, mislaid the discriminating knack that most of us pray will warn us in time of the difference between what is effective and firm, and what is wildly grotesque and excessive. Soon we suspect something worse. We suspect that this mind finds, precisely in extravagance, some exalting merit; feels a surging release of power and passion precisely in smashing up the house. A tornado might feel this way, or Carrie Nation.

William F. Buckley’s obit on Rand (not currently available online, to my knowledge) which references an interesting tidbit of gossip regarding the above piece:

Ayn Rand, RIP New York, March 10, 1982

Rand is dead. So, incidentally, is the philosophy she sought to launch dead; it was in fact stillborn. The great public crisis in Ayn Rand’s career came, in my judgment, when Whittaker Chambers took her on—in December of 1957, when her book Atlas Shrugged best-seller list, lecturers were beginning to teach something called Randism, and students started using such terms as “mysticism of the mind” (religion), and “mysticism of the muscle” (statism).

Whittaker Chambers, whose authority with American conservatives was as high as that of any man then living, wrote in NATIONAL REVIEW, after a lengthy analysis of the essential aridity of Miss Rand’s philosophy, “Out of a lifetime of reading, I can recall no other book in which a tone of overriding arrogance was so implacably sustained. Its shrillness is without reprieve. Its dogmatism is without appeal.”

I had met Miss Rand three years before that review was published. Her very first words to me (I do not exaggerate) were: “You ahrr too intelligent to believe in Gott.” The critic Wilfrid Sheed once remarked, when I told him the story, “Well, that certainly is an icebreaker.” It was; and we conversed, and did so for two or three years. I used to send her postcards in liturgical Latin: but levity with Miss Rand was not an effective weapon.

And when I published Whittaker Chambers’ review, her resentment was so comprehensive that she regularly inquired of all hosts or toastmasters whether she was being invited to a function at which I was also scheduled to appear, because if that was the case, either she would not come; or, if so, only after I had left; or before I arrived. I fear that I put the lady through a great deal of choreographical pain.

Miss Rand’s most memorable personal claim (if you don’t count the one about her being the next greatest philosopher after Aristotle) was that since formulating her philosophy of “objectivism,” she had never experienced any emotion for which she could not fully account. And then one day, a dozen years ago, she was at a small dinner, the host of which was Henry Hazlitt, the libertarian economist, the other guest being Ludwig von Mises, the grand master of the Austrian school of anti-statist economics. Miss Rand was going on about something or other, at which point Mises told her to be quiet, that she was being very foolish. The lady who could account for all her emotions at that point burst out into tears, and complained: “You are treating me like a poor ignorant little Jewish girl!” Mr. Hazlitt, attempting to bring serenity to his table, leaned over and said, “There there, Ayn, that isn’t at all what Ludwig was suggesting.” But this attempt at conciliation was ruined when Mises jumped up and said: “That iss eggsactly what you ahrr!” Since both participants were Jewish, this was not a racist slur. This story was mortal to her reputation as the lady of total self-control.

THERE WERE other unpleasantnesses of professional interest, such as her alienation from her principal apostle, Nathaniel Branden—who was so ungallant as to suggest, in retaliation against her charge that he was trying to swindle her, that the breakup was the result of his rejection of an, er, amatory advance by Miss Rand. Oh goodness, it got ugly.

There were a few who, like Chambers, caught on early. Atlas Shrugged was published back before the law of the Obligatory Sex Scene was passed by both Houses of Congress and all fifty state legislatures, so that the volume was considered rather risque, in its day. Russell Kirk, challenged to account for Miss Rand’s success if indeed she was merely an exiguous philosophic figure, replied, “Oh, they read her books for the fornicating bits.” Unkind. And only partly true.

The Fountainhead, read in a certain way, is a profound assertion of the integrity of art. What did Miss Rand in was her anxiety to theologize her beliefs. She was an eloquent and persuasive anti-statist, and if only she had left it at that—but no, she had to declare that God did not exist, that altruism was despicable, that only self-interest is good and noble. She risked, in fact, giving to capitalism that bad name that its enemies have done so well in giving it; and that is a pity. Miss Rand was a talented woman, devoted to her ideals.

She came as a refugee from Communism to this country as a young woman, and carved out a substantial career. May she rest in peace, and may she experience the demystification of her mind possessed.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-07 16:04:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ayn Rand Institute and Ayn Rand Archives has great information about Ayn Rand and her philosophy.

www.aynrand.org/site/Page...yn_rand_aynrand_biography

facetsofaynrand.com/book/...rchives_oral_history.html

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-07 16:13:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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