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Title: House Passes Toothless Resolution After Zionist Baptist Rep 'Urges' DoD to 'Permit' Freedom of Religion
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Published: Oct 6, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-10-06 11:53:17 by Artisan
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Comments: 41

I was initially pleased with this and was going to title this story 'Congress passes resolution to allow religious services on military bases during shutdown.' But once I saw the actual 'toothless' resolution and reading the background of its' proponent, I am a bit more cynical. I don't think we need 'permission' from this corrupt, filthy, murderous government to practice our faith. The proponent of this measure is part of the problem. Immediately after entering CONgress, he wrote "As one of our closest allies and friends, Israel should know the United States will always do its part to ensure Israelis are never put in harm’s way," and that United States and Israel must "be fully equipped" to "defend our nations from both military style attacks as well as cyber warfare." [Article continues here.


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Also: Slothful Feds Surfing the internet, surveiling WhatReallyHappened.com during Government "Shutdown" Despite an extremely melodramatic "government shutdown" in which most federal agencies are allegedly 'tightening their belts' and shutting their doors, employees at several of those agencies are spending their time and taxpayer dollars surfing the web at alternative news websites such as whatreallyhappened.com The National Archives And Records Administration and The U.S. Department of The Interior, Office of The Secretary official ISPs were among many which logged onto WRH on Friday from their plush air-conditioned offices. Additionally, other agencies have been busy scurrying about seeking ways to further eviscerate the Constitution. The U.S. Department of Defense Network googled the term "how many people have registered their guns" and the Texas government searched the term " "authority for texas trooper to conduct commercial vehicle inspection without probable cause." official ISP (207.245.177.6) in College Park, Maryland was logged on Friday October 4th, clicking the LibertyFight.com link about the D.C. shooting, which had been featured at whatreallyhappened.com.

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#2. To: Artisan (#0)

Despite an extremely melodramatic "government shutdown" in which most federal agencies are allegedly 'tightening their belts' and shutting their doors, employees at several of those agencies are spending their time and taxpayer dollars surfing the web at alternative news websites

So ridiculous that taxpayers are forced to carry these lazy slugs, who can't get real jobs, on their backs. What are these people doing that's profitable to the Republic, while earning $100,000+ each + medical and dental and vision perks + defined extravagent pensions? Snooping @ non-MSM news sites - give me a friggin' break - and watching porn - how does that make America competitive globally, as Ms. Marian Graddick-Weir ( Merck) said was necessary for America to do? You could fire 75% of Federal employees - including the Pentagon, NSA, Dept of Education, Dept of Interior. the EPA etc etc - and America would not suffer one bit. In fact as we see during this short shut down, the only only thing noticeable is that traffic is better in DC.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-06   12:24:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)

Alisa Rosenbaum also had an acidic stomach complaint that triggered off excessive disdain, for workers dependent on taxpayer largesse.

Unmentioned by her worshippers is the fact she finished her days living on Social Security and Medicare.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-06   13:00:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

Did she piss-away her royalties?

Lod  posted on  2013-10-06   13:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4)

Did she piss-away her royalties?

Indeed, along with her hangerson.

Rosenbaum passed away in league with the human lice of this country, on social security, monthly check to check, and on Medicare while in poor health from her "free soul living".

In New York City, in a cheap apartment, with an Irish last name.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-06   13:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom, Lod (#5)

Lod: Did she piss-away her royalties?

Cynicom: Indeed, along with her hangerson.

Rosenbaum passed away in league with the human lice of this country, on social security, monthly check to check, and on Medicare while in poor health from her "free soul living".

In New York City, in a cheap apartment, with an Irish last name.

Cynicom, before you spout off AlterNet rumors, you should double check to see if there is any factual support.

freestudents.blogspot.co....-ayn-rand-and-social.html

"Lying about Ayn Rand and Social Security"

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-06   15:00:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2, Lod (#8)

"Michael Ford Founding director, Xavier University's Center for the Study of the American Dream".

"However, it was revealed in the recent "Oral History of Ayn Rand" by Scott McConnell (founder of the media department at the Ayn Rand Institute) that in the end Ayn was a vip-dipper as well. An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor).

As Pryor said, "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out" without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn "despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently... She didn't feel that an individual should take help."

But alas she did and said it was wrong for everyone else to do so. Apart from the strong implication that those who take the help are morally weak, it is also a philosophic point that such help dulls the will to work, to save and government assistance is said to dull the entrepreneurial spirit.

In the end, Miss Rand was a hypocrite but she could never be faulted for failing to act in her own self-interest".

If one has time, they might look for a review of one of Rosenbaums books by Whitaker Chambers nearly sixty years ago. Chambers was associated with twisted jewish minds for a long time, so he was well qualified to review the contortions of Rosenbaum.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-07   7:33:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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" An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor)."

See the link I provided in #8 and read the article. It has embedded links and also rebutts all ridiculous rumors made about Ayn Rand by Ayn Rand haters, many of whom have not read her novels or her non-fiction writings about her philosophy.

Ayn Rand and her husband were forced to pay taxes to support both SS and Medicare programs. Given Ayn Rand paid taxes on all her income from writing during an era when the top tax bracket was at or over 90%, how is it at all hypocritical for her to take money she was legally entitled to? It has been claimed that "Between December 1974 and her death in March 1982, Rand collected a total of $11,002 in monthly Social Security payments. O’Connor received $2,943 between December 1974 and his death in November 1979." Do you really think throughout her lifetime Ayn Rand only paid the Government $11,000 in taxes?

Claiming SS and Medicare benefits was not hypocritical whatsoever. Indeed, it's entirely in keeping with Ayn Rand's philosophy which is for the individual to retrieve from the welfare state benefits that were forcibly taken by government.

Here's a free online lexicon, mini-encyclopedia compiled from Ayn Rand's "state­ments on some 400 topics in philosophy, economics, psychology and history."

She was even asked about the subject of accepting government scholarships, grants, SS, UI, etc - read her responses:

aynrandlexicon.com/lexico...nts_and_scholarships.html

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The fundamental evil of government grants is the fact that men are forced to pay for the support of ideas diametrically opposed to their own. This is a profound violation of an individual’s integrity and conscience. It is viciously wrong to take the money of rational men for the support of B.F. Skinner—or vice versa. The Constitution forbids a governmental establishment of religion, properly regarding it as a violation of individual rights. Since a man’s beliefs are protected from the intrusion of force, the same principle should protect his reasoned convictions and forbid governmental establishments in the field of thought...

Since there is no such thing as the right of some men to vote away the rights of others, and no such thing as the right of the government to seize the property of some men for the unearned benefit of others—the advocates and supporters of the welfare state are morally guilty of robbing their opponents, and the fact that the robbery is legalized makes it morally worse, not better. The victims do not have to add self-inflicted martyrdom to the injury done to them by others; they do not have to let the looters profit doubly, by letting them distribute the money exclusively to the parasites who clamored for it. Whenever the welfare-state laws offer them some small restitution, the victims should take it . . . .

The same moral principles and considerations apply to the issue of accepting social security, unemployment insurance or other payments of that kind. It is obvious, in such cases, that a man receives his own money which was taken from him by force, directly and specifically, without his consent, against his own choice. Those who advocated such laws are morally guilty, since they assumed the “right” to force employers and unwilling co-workers. But the victims, who opposed such laws, have a clear right to any refund of their own money—and they would not advance the cause of freedom if they left their money, unclaimed, for the benefit of the welfare-state administration...

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The allegation that Rand used another name to "double dip" is absurd. Did you even try to look up the name "Ann O'Connor" or "Ann Oconnor" on the SS Death Index? I did and it wasn't listed. I searched for "Ayn Ryan" and it was listed.

Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record

Name: Ayn Rand State of Issue: California Date of Birth: Thursday February 02, 1905 Date of Death: March 1982 Est. Age at Death: 77 years, 1 months Last known residence: City: New York; Manhattan County: New York State: New York ZIP Code: 10019 Latitude: 40.7652 Longitude: -73.9853

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