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Title: Dear Liberal…Here’s Why I’m So Hostile
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Published: Oct 27, 2013
Author: Jeremy N. Choate
Post Date: 2013-10-27 19:59:02 by James Deffenbach
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Dear Liberal…Here’s Why I’m So Hostile

This essay is a bit of departure from my usually reasonable and logical approach to important issues. That’s not to say that the essay isn’t well-reasoned and is bereft of logical argumentation, but I freely admit that it’s polemical, in nature. Sometimes you’re just pissed, and you need to vent. Here’s my vent…

Lately, I must admit that my hostility towards your political ilk has ramped up, pretty dramatically. No, it’s not because we, at this point in my life, have a half-black president in the White House, and I’m some closet racist who is becoming increasingly frustrated at the prospects of the White Man’s power slipping through my fingers. I know that you’ve accused our side of such nonsense, and the thought keeps you warm at night, but I can assure you that it is a comfortable fiction of which you should probably divest yourself.

Now before I waste too much of your time, let’s establish who I’m talking to. If you believe that we live in an evil, imperialist nation from its founding, and you believe that it should be “fundamentally transformed”, lend me your ears. If you believe that the free market is the source of the vast majority of society’s ills and wish to have more government intervention into it, I’m talking to you. If you believe that health care is a basic human right and that government should provide it to everyone, you’re the guy I’m screaming at. If you think minorities cannot possibly survive in this inherently racist country without handouts and government mandated diversity quotas, you’re my guy. If you believe that rich people are that way because they’ve exploited their workers and acquired wealth on the backs of the poor, keep reading. Pretty much, if you trust government more than your fellow American, this post is for you.

First of all, let me say that we probably agree on more things than you think. Even between Tea Party Patriots and Occupy Wall-Streeters, I’ve observed a common hatred of the insidious alliance between big business and big government. As Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) so correctly noted, government should never be in the business of picking winners and losers in corporate America, and no person, organization, union, or corporation should have their own key to the back door of our government.

Second, contrary to popular belief, conservatives really are concerned with the plight of the poor in this nation. You accuse us of being uncompassionate, hateful, racist, and greedy, but studies have shown that when it comes to charitable giving, conservatives are at least (if not more, depending on the study you read) as generous as liberals in caring for the poor. The difference between us is not in our attitude towards the problem — it’s our attitude towards the solution. We believe that the government does practically nothing well (since without competition or a profit motive there is no incentive to do well) and has made the plight of the poor far worse than it would have ever been had government never gotten involved. For a stark example of this, look no farther than the condition of the black family in America since the “War on Poverty” began. You believe that more government is the answer, and that if we only throw more money at the problem, the problem will go away. We believe, as Reagan so aptly stated,

Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.

Third, as people who might actually have to avail ourselves of a doctor’s services at some point in our lives, we are just as concerned with the condition of America’s healthcare system as you are. While we believe that America has the world’s most capable physicians, has the world’s most innovative pharmaceutical industry, and is on the cutting edge of medical technology, we also understand that the delivery system is far from perfect. However, unlike you, we see a grave danger in turning the administration of that delivery system over to the same entity that is responsible for giving us the United States Postal Service. There are private sector solutions that should certainly be explored before we kill the system, altogether, by giving it to the government to run.

Now that we’ve touched on a couple of points of common ground, allow me to explain my aggressiveness towards your efforts to implement your progressive agenda. First, let’s talk about the word “progressive”, since you now seem to prefer that word to “liberal”. In order to label something as progressive or regressive, one must have some idea as to what constitutes progress. What is the ideal towards which you are striving? An idea is considered progressive if it moves us closer to the ideal and regressive if it moves us further away. So, what is your ideal society?

Though I can’t begin to discern the thoughts of every liberal who may read this, nor can I assume that every liberal has the same notion of an ideal society, in my arguments with liberals over the years, I couldn’t help but notice the influence that FDR’s Second Bill of Rights has had in shaping the beliefs of the modern liberal with regards to domestic policy. The rights that FDR cited are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.

At this point, you’re probably screaming, “Right on!!”, and who can blame you? What sane person in the world doesn’t want everyone to be gainfully employed, adequately fed, smartly clothed, appropriately sheltered, and properly educated? These are the goals of every moral society on the planet, however we cannot ignore the fundamental question of, “At what cost?”

I’m not sure whether FDR was a shallow thinker or simply a shrewd, Machiavellian politician, but the fact that he framed each of these ideals as a human right should be troubling to every freedom-loving person in America. After all, what does it mean for something to be a human right? Doesn’t it mean that it’s something to which you are entitled simply by virtue of your being human? Let’s think about some of the basic rights that the real Bill of Rights delineates: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to petition the government, freedom to bear arms, freedom from illegal search and seizure, etc.

If you’re moderately intelligent and intellectually honest, you’ll quickly see what separates the rights laid out in the real Bill of Rights from those laid out in FDR’s misguided list — none of the rights listed above require the time, treasure, or talents of another human being. Your right to speak requires nothing from anyone else. Your right to practice your religion requires nothing from any of your fellow citizens. Your right to bear arms means that you are allowed to possess weapons to defend yourself and your family, but it makes no demand that a weapon be provided to you by anyone. A true human right is one that you possess, even if you’re the only person on the entire planet — and it is unconditional.

FDR’s list is no “Bill of Rights”. It’s a list of demands. If I have a right to a job, doesn’t that mean that one must be provided to me? If I have a right to adequate food, clothing, and recreation, doesn’t that mean that I am entitled to those things, and someone should provide them to me? If I have an inherent right to a decent home, once again, doesn’t that mean it should be provided to me, regardless of my ability to afford one or build one for myself?

You might protest that FDR only meant that we have the right to pursue those things, but that’s not what he said, and why would he? If we live in a free society, our right to pursue those things is self-evident, is it not? Besides, if he only believed in our right to pursue those things, he would not have felt the need to implement the New Deal.

You may be getting anxious, now, wondering what FDR’s Second Bill of Rights has to do with my antipathy towards your political philosophy. It’s quite simple — your political beliefs are a threat to liberty — not just for me, but for my three boys and their children as well. I care much less about the America that I’m living in at this very moment than I do about the one that I’m leaving Nathaniel, Charlie, and Jackson.

How does your political bent threaten my and my sons personal liberty, you ask? In your irrational attempt to classify things such as clothing, shelter, health care, employment, and income as basic human rights, you are placing a demand upon my time, my treasure, and my talents. If you believe that you have a right to health care, and you are successful in persuading enough shallow thinkers to think as you do, then it will place a demand upon me to provide it to you. If you believe that you have a right to a job, and more than half of America agrees with you, as a business owner, I am obligated to provide one to you, even if it means making my business less profitable.

The fact is, you can rail against my conservatism all you wish. You can make fun of my Tea Party gatherings, and you can ridicule patriots in tri-corner hats until you wet yourself from mirth, but one thing is for certain: my political philosophy will NEVER be a threat to your freedom. If you feel a burning responsibility to the poor, conservatism will never prevent you from working 80 hours per week and donating all of your income to charity. If you feel a strong sense of pity for a family who cannot afford health insurance, my political philosophy will never prevent you from purchasing health insurance for this family or raising money to do so, if you cannot afford it, personally. If you are moved with compassion for a family who is homeless, a conservative will never use the police power of government to prevent you from taking that family in to your own home or mobilizing your community to build one for them.

However, you cannot say the same for liberalism. If I choose not to give to the poor for whatever reason, you won’t simply try to persuade me on the merits of the idea — you will seek to use the government as an instrument of plunder to force me to give to the poor. If we are walking down the street together and we spot a homeless person, using this logic, you would not simply be content with giving him $20 from your own pocket — you would hold a gun to my head and force me to give him $20, as well.

Everything that modern liberalism accomplishes is accomplished at the barrel of a government rifle. You do not trust in the generosity of the American people to provide, through private charity, things such as clothing, food, shelter, and health care, so you empower the government to take from them and spend the money on wasteful, inefficient, and inadequate government entitlement programs. You do not trust in the personal responsibility of the average American to wield firearms in defense of themselves and their families, so you seek to empower the government to criminalize the use and possession of firearms by private citizens. Everytime you empower the government, you lose more of your personal liberty — it’s an axiomatic truth.

What angers me the most about you is the eagerness with which you allow the incremental enslavement to occur. You are the cliched and proverbial frog in the pot who has actually convinced himself that he’s discovered a big, silver jacuzzi. Somehow, you’re naive enough to believe that one more degree of heat won’t really matter that much.

I have the utmost respect for a slave who is continuously seeking a path to freedom. What I cannot stomach is a free man who is continuous seeking a path to servitude by willingly trading his freedom for the false sense of security that government will provide.

I am reminded of Samuel Adams’ impassioned speech where he stated:

“If ye love wealth (or security) better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”

Servitude can exist in a free society, but freedom cannot exist in a slave nation. In a free country, you have the liberty to join with others of your political ilk and realize whatever collectivist ideals you can dream up. You can start your own little commune where the sign at the front gate says, “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need”, and everyone can work for the mutual benefit of everyone else. In my society, you have the freedom to do that.

In your society, I don’t have the same freedom. If your collectivism offends me, I am not free to start my own free society within its borders. In order for collectivism to work, everyone must be on board, even those who oppose it — why do you think there was a Berlin Wall?

In conclusion, just know that the harder you push to enact your agenda, the more hostile I will become — the harder I will fight you. It’s nothing personal, necessarily. If you want to become a slave to an all-powerful central government, be my guest. But if you are planning to take me and my family down with you, as we say down here in the South, I will stomp a mud-hole in your chest and walk it dry.

Bring it.

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

excellent!!!

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-10-27   21:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

If you believe that rich people are that way because they’ve exploited their workers and acquired wealth on the backs of the poor, keep reading.

The author obviously was not around during the great depression.

A true believer in Rosenbaum that the masses are but lice with barely a right to life.

Hunger does tend to modify ones self righteousness.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-27   21:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

Thank you, Christine. I thought it was a superb article too. A bit lengthy but worth the time I think.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-27   21:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

The author obviously was not around during the great depression.

Most of the people living today were not around during the great depression or if they were they don't remember it much.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-27   23:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

Dont remember it?????

They never forget it.

I would like to question the author as to whether or not he has ever availed himself of any government handout. Like it or not, few Americans can say they have NOT had their hand out at one time or another.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-28   3:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#2)

Hunger does tend to modify ones self righteousness.

I can't disagree with the above statement. To see one's children hungry would surely give rise to thoughts and deeds that could be considered unrighteous.

All of that being said, the U.S. Govt steals people's money in order to finance a kazillion unamerican activities that would go unfunded otherwise. Some of the things financed are so ridiculous that whoever thought the idea up should be shot. Never ending wars are another example of unnecessary govt largesse at the people's expense. They have taken your cash to buy your kid a gun so he can be sent to some middle-eastern shithole to have his/"HER" legs blown off before he comes back home to prosthetic surgery, rubber legs, and a plastic dick to play with for the rest of his ruined life.

Cyni, I don't think any of us can have it both ways. We can't bitch about the govt for its evils and then expect handouts from it when the only cure for the govt's malfeasance is a popular resistance to govt bullshit in the earliest of stages. Our children must be raised with a rabid hatred for oppression in any form especially oppression by government with the assistance of corporate interests and most of all we must stop central bank ownership of our country and the entire world.

When we complain constantly about how little return we are afforded after a lifetime of servitude to a criminal government we haven't looked into the mirror and caught the real culprit shaving. Each of us must stand against wrong, and if we do soon there will be enough of us to stop the few from robbing, raping, pillaging, and murdering in order to control and own the entire earth -

Today in America there are so many hands digging into the average workers pocket that they cannot educate their own children because they have to build schools in Iraq, or doctor african AIDS victims, or support Arab immigrants, or finance some queer cocksucker's campaign for President, or fly some arrogant nigger and his unwieldy entourage around the world so he can display his Napoleonic complex for the international community to witness.

Personally, I say fuck all that bullshit. When did I ever agree to eat shit and die for some illicit group of thieves and baby killers ? Americans have not only lost their moral compass they have lost their courage to stand up for what is righteous.

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is tantamount to the slaves admitting that they love picking cotton as a hobby !

Doug

noone222  posted on  2013-10-28   5:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom (#4)

Those people that were ill affected by the connived depression became socialists at least sub-consciously. My dad told me he had an aunt that thought FDR was the most wonderful man on earth because one of his socialist programs made well constructed outhouses available that prevented the wind from blowing through when one was enjoying a good shit in the cold winter months.

Americans have been living in the Great Oppression since 1913 and the introduction of the FEDERAL RESERVE. Americans forfeited their right to freedoms under the constitution for the crumbs afforded them by Uncle Sambo (with the bankers permission). They were gullible and didn't recognize their poverty was a connivance put upon them by criminals in government and bankers colluding for total power.

We know better and our children should someday be able to say "we were the greatest generation" because we routed out the banksters and the Wall Street thugs that had corrupted the government "AGAINST" the people.

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is tantamount to the slaves admitting that they love picking cotton as a hobby !

Doug

noone222  posted on  2013-10-28   5:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222, Christine (#7)

However, you cannot say the same for liberalism. If I choose not to give to the poor for whatever reason, you won’t simply try to persuade me on the merits of the idea — you will seek to use the government as an instrument of plunder to force me to give to the poor. If we are walking down the street together and we spot a homeless person, using this logic, you would not simply be content with giving him $20 from your own pocket — you would hold a gun to my head and force me to give him $20, as well.

This vein of convoluted thinking, is used by many people to carry their own self righteous view of total society.

While it may be pure of intent, it is false in reality. One cannot stand on their soapbox, point fingers at others for being takers, while their wallet holds tax dollars.

Ask any young doctor that decries medicare and medicaid if he indeed paid his way thru medical school and internship. When he starts squirming, you know he is just another taker, like those of us at the bottom, except he takes in huge handfuls of tax dollars.

Billions are taken from the taxpayers pockets every year to SUBSIDIZE THE MEDICAL TRAINING OF ALL DOCTORS INTERNING IN AMERICAN HOSPITALS.

That money is taxed by and paid for by MEDICARE/MEDICAID, and then they have the temerity to shun us as patients because we are on the taxpayer dole.

Beware those that stand on the street corner spewing class hatred for the people at the bottom. Blanket condemnation makes such people feel good, however they should be willing to disclose their own background.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-28   8:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

This vein of convoluted thinking, is used by many people to carry their own self righteous view of total society.

While it may be pure of intent, it is false in reality. One cannot stand on their soapbox, point fingers at others for being takers, while their wallet holds tax dollars.

My thinking is that society is made up of individuals with individual rights. One of those rights in my estimation is the right to NOT BE A SOCIALIST or to be robbed by any entity regardless of their marvelous societal intentions.

My personal and inalienable rights do not depend upon elections or polls that indicate that I am in the minority. When a system becomes destructive of my personal freedom it's my duty to resist it.

We had doctors before we had socialism. Those doctors made house calls and in most instances were considered equal participants in the local community. They didn't charge a hundred dollars for office visits either.

I suppose that I condoned some of this socialism before it got so out of hand that it demanded I investigate it further. Having done so I determined it wasn't for me, PERIOD. This was 30 years ago and I have never returned to the govt trough. It's evil to have a relationship with anyone or any entity that conducts itself as the U.S. Govt does.

When the good people of this country awaken to the realization that Uncle Sambo is going to reject their claims of whatever nature, maybe then they will cease being socialists.

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is tantamount to the slaves admitting that they love picking cotton as a hobby !

Doug

noone222  posted on  2013-10-28   9:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#9)

Liberals disdain the lower class just as much as the conservatives.

The difference???? Not much. Liberals pretend they care about the bottom feeders so as to make them useful. Conservatives do not even pretend.

One thing the middle class forgets is this, at the top are the conservatives and liberals sleeping together, having one hell of a laugh at the expense the gullible below.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-28   9:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

One thing the middle class forgets is this, at the top are the conservatives and liberals sleeping together, having one hell of a laugh at the expense the gullible below.

We agree completely on this point.

The disinction between the two parties is insignificant - as a matter of fact it looks to me that they collude to destroy the country and only argue for our consumption.

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is tantamount to the slaves admitting that they love picking cotton as a hobby !

Doug

noone222  posted on  2013-10-28   10:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#5)

Dont remember it?????

They never forget it.

I assure you that a baby born in the middle or toward the end of the depression doesn't remember it. They remember what they have been told about it but that is not the same as a memory you have of having actually lived through something.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-28   12:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222, Post of the Day (#6)

Today in America there are so many hands digging into the average workers pocket that they cannot educate their own children because they have to build schools in Iraq, or doctor african AIDS victims, or support Arab immigrants, or finance some queer cocksucker's campaign for President, or fly some arrogant nigger and his unwieldy entourage around the world so he can display his Napoleonic complex for the international community to witness.

Good one.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-28   12:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#7)

Americans have been living in the Great Oppression since 1913 and the introduction of the FEDERAL RESERVE. Americans forfeited their right to freedoms under the constitution for the crumbs afforded them by Uncle Sambo (with the bankers permission). They were gullible and didn't recognize their poverty was a connivance put upon them by criminals in government and bankers colluding for total power.

You're on a roll.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-28   12:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

You're on a roll.

Thanks Jim !

Voting in FEDERAL ELECTIONS is tantamount to the slaves admitting that they love picking cotton as a hobby !

Doug

noone222  posted on  2013-10-28   12:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#12)

I assure you that a baby born in the middle or toward the end of the depression doesn't remember it. They remember what they have been told about it but that is not the same as a memory you have of having actually lived through something.

Not positive as to just what that means.

The great depression did NOT end until well after WWII started. There was no one day change from bad to good.

The impetus for change was caused by dragging off young Americans into the military, nearly 16 million. The government could find money for war, for killing millions.

In studying history, we find our government had been preparing for WWII since 1919. They even knew who it would be, the day of the week and the time of day.

Just as now, we are broke, spending billions on handouts to the parasites, endlessly. But what is going on in the background???

We are preparing for WWIII. No clamor from the populace about it.

Stealthily and quietly we are building a Pacific ring around China, all that is needed is to goad them into war, just as we did Japan long ago.

Wars demand blood, lots of it, the question is always the same, whose blood?

We at the bottom know the answer.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-28   12:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

Not positive as to just what that means.

What it means is that babies don't remember all that much about their first few years, at least most of them don't. And I know that the depression didn't just suddenly end but I still think it's a valid point that very young children don't remember the things that happen at a very young age. I am sure there are exceptions but think you would be hard pressed to find an adult who actually remembers anything about his first few years.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-10-28   13:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

Young under stress remember quite well.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-28   13:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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