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Title: NSA official: 'We're really screwed now'
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Published: Oct 30, 2013
Author: Dylan Stableford, Yahoo News
Post Date: 2013-10-30 02:03:39 by Tatarewicz
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The National Security Agency is reportedly reeling from comments made by Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein — one of the agency's staunchest defenders — in the wake of revelations that the NSA spied on foreign leaders, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"With respect to NSA collection of intelligence on leaders of U.S. allies — including France, Spain, Mexico and Germany — let me state unequivocally: I am totally opposed," Feinstein said in a statement Monday. “Unless the United States is engaged in hostilities against a country or there is an emergency need for this type of surveillance, I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers. The president should be required to approve any collection of this sort.

“It is my understanding that President Obama was not aware Chancellor Merkel’s communications were being collected since 2002," Feinstein continued. "That is a big problem."

According to Foreign Policy magazine, Feinstein's public reversal shocked at least one NSA official.

"We're really screwed now," the official said. "You know things are bad when the few friends you've got disappear without a trace in the dead of night and leave no forwarding address."

Feinstein called for a "major review into all intelligence collection programs."

“It is abundantly clear that a total review of all intelligence programs is necessary so that members of the Senate Intelligence Committee are fully informed as to what is actually being carried out by the intelligence community," Feinstein said. “Unlike NSA’s collection of phone records under a court order, it is clear to me that certain surveillance activities have been in effect for more than a decade and that the Senate Intelligence Committee was not satisfactorily informed."

She added that "Congress needs to know exactly what our intelligence community is doing.”

Feinstein is not alone. Arizona Sen. John McCain is calling for a select committee to review the U.S. spy program.

"We have always eavesdropped on people around the world," McCain said Monday. "But the advance of technology has given us enormous capabilities, and I think you might make an argument that some of this capability has been very offensive both to us and to our allies."

Meanwhile, stronger opponents of the surveillance program in the House are expected to unveil the "USA Freedom Act," a bipartisan bill that would limit the NSA's bulk data collection. A similar bill is expected to be introduced by Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy in the Senate.

Feinstein had been working on a competing bill that, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, "would grant the agency explicit authority to gather records listing the numbers, duration and time of all U.S. telephone calls, but not their content."


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Wonder if NSA is spying on members of Congress and AIPAC operatives (since they are working for the Israeli criminal state)?

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Wonder if NSA is spying on members of Congress and AIPAC operatives (since they are working for the Israeli criminal state)?

Certainly.

Before the days of electronic wizardry, Hoover kept a private file that only he and his queer friend Clyde Tolson had access to.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-30   2:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom, Tatarewicz (#1)

Tat: Wonder if NSA is spying on members of Congress and AIPAC operatives (since they are working for the Israeli criminal state)?

Cyni: Certainly.

I agree with Cyni - it's a given that NSA spies on us and "them" and the "them" are probably monitored in a more focused personal fashion than "us," the useless grass eaters.

Here's the problem I see - Frankenstein believes the NSA is a pitbull on a leash working for "the greater good" of the US oligarchy and Israhell- watching the Hoi Polloi for any signs of insurrection.

Frankenstein and her ilk are the least of Americans' problems. They are a familiar quantity.

However what if dog bites man? What if a cabal within the NSA wanted to control America? They have the means to know what every single person is doing at any given time - a chip in their phone, a chip in their car, etc. They could shut America down with some keyboard strokes. Think: "American Blackout."

It's the unknown enemy we should fear - not the known Frankenstein's - that could emerge in the future when too much power is given with impunity to a pitbull gov't entity that could go rogue at any time.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-30   3:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Addendum:

I love how this fat ugly Frankenstein cow says it's ok for the NSA to spy on Americans ( against the US Constitution) but she doesn't want NSA to spy on foreigners like the other fat ugly cow, Merkel.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-30   4:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#2)

watching the Hoi Polloi for any signs of insurrection.

And well they might or an American Spring would end the bureaucrats' sinecures, relegating them to skid row.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2013-10-30   7:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2, Lod (#2)

Scrap...

I recall from experience when NSA was young, energetic, and a vital importance to this country.

In fact just for hell of it I may attach photos of myself at NSA during Clintons reign. At that time, one could sense the rot had set in. I later wrote a letter to Air and Space magazine which they published, BUT THEY CENSORED IT. I knew way back then that we were past the point of no return.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-10-30   9:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tatarewicz, *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE* (#0)

Smokescreen. "Limited hang-out."

Yes, they are likely worried, but not of Frankenfeinstein. With limited public disclosure of what they are up to getting to a wider audience it means that the potential exists for a heavy backlash. However, until you see Intel people, higher ups not flunkies, going to jail and being forced to resign it is just theatre.

The pattern has been deny, deny, deny, and then when that is no longer credibly feasible to throw someone over the side and then make a limited admission with a mea culpa - "really, we won't do it again - 'honest injun'".

So, the real test is reducing their funding dramatically alongside the upper echelon being sent to "make little ones out of big ones".

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-10-30   11:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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