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Title: Senator Harry Reid Supports Giving Illegal Aliens Tax Credits for Kids Not Even Living in US
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URL Source: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogs ... bal+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29
Published: Oct 30, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-10-30 13:13:14 by Horse
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Comments: 5

U.S. Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, left, wants to end the practice of giving illegal immigrants tax credits for kids, but U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., won’t let the House-approved measure H.R. 556 through the Senate.

"The System is Working Fine" says Senator Harry Reid, even though the Joint Committee on Taxation calculates that enactment of H.R. 556 would save taxpayers $24.4 billion over the next decade.

The House of Representatives repeatedly has passed an IRS bill that could save U.S. taxpayers up to $24.4 billion over the next 10 years — but Harry Reid’s Democratic Senate will not hear it.

The Refundable Child Tax Credit Eligibility Verification Reform Act, or H.R. 556, would require tax filers to provide Social Security numbers to claim child tax credits.

Currently, the IRS allows undocumented residents to collect the $1,000 credits for dependents not even living in the country. Watchdog reported that illegal immigrants received $4.2 billion from the tax agency in just one year.

“My bill (targets) billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. Instead of hitting up taxpayers for even more taxes, Washington needs to go after these billions of dollars,” said U.S. Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas.

Though the GOP-controlled House has passed Johnson’s measure three times, Senate Majority Leader Reid, D-Nev., refuses to allow the bill to come up for a vote in his chamber.

“The IRS has been doling out the credit to tax filers claiming children who do not even live in the country,” Johnson charged.

Tax preparers agree that the system is broken — and that the IRS must fix it. They say the agency has to stop disbursing ACTC refunds based on Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers, which are available to undocumented residents.

Tax preparers told Watchdog they have seen clients from Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua claiming Mexican children as dependents.

A 2009 TIGTA audit concluded that the child tax credit “appears to provide an additional incentive for aliens to enter, reside, and work in the U.S. without authorization, which contradicts Federal law and policy to remove such incentives.”

Johnson’s bill would impose a 10-year ban on tax filers who commit fraud and a $500 penalty on tax preparers who knowingly bilk taxpayers through the ACTC program.

“I just think the child tax credit is working just fine, and there’s no need to punish children,” the Democratic leader told the Associated Press in February.

Better Ideas

Johnson’s bill would impose a 10-year ban on tax filers who commit fraud and a $500 penalty on tax preparers who "knowingly" bilk taxpayers through the ACTC program.

Proving that a tax preparer "knowingly" sent in a fraudulent return would be next to impossible. What if we paid tax preparers $250 for every illegal immigrant removed from the system?

Active incentives to weed out existing fraud would certainly work better than passive incentives to stop further abuse. If Johnson's bill would save $24 billion, my idea would surely save more.

One could reasonably go further and kill the program in entirety.

Hypocricy and Partisan Politics

One would hope that with budget deficits wildly out of control and with interest on the nation's debt piling up even with historic low interest rates, that common sense measures to save $24 billion would get easy passage.

But such hopes are dashed on the hard rocks of partisan politics. What one party wants, the other doesn't.

Moreover, I am quite sure enough Democrats would vote for this bill if they were allowed. But they aren't. Reid has blocked the measure.

Recall the outrage by Senator Reid, the media, and the Democrats when House Speaker John Boehner would not allow a vote on a clean budget resolution bill.

Now Reid is doing the same thing, and it's costing taxpayers $24 billion. Where's the media outrage?

Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Proving that a tax preparer "knowingly" sent in a fraudulent return would be next to impossible.

Does Mish Shedlock live in the USA?

The IRS doesn't need proof.

It's Napoleonic Law for the IRS.

They just say the tax-preparer sent fraudulent returns to them.

Then it's up to the tax preparer to prove he didn't.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-10-30   15:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse, All (#0)

Hey everybody, I just found out that I've got around 7-10 kids living in olde mexico, guess who cashes in next April 1!! Wheeeeeeeeeeee......

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-10-30   15:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#2)

Go for it!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-10-30   15:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse, 4 (#0)

The House of Representatives repeatedly has passed an IRS bill that could save U.S. taxpayers up to $24.4 billion over the next 10 years — but Harry Reid’s Democratic Senate will not hear it.

The Refundable Child Tax Credit Eligibility Verification Reform Act, or H.R. 556, would require tax filers to provide Social Security numbers to claim child tax credits.

Currently, the IRS allows undocumented residents to collect the $1,000 credits for dependents not even living in the country. Watchdog reported that illegal immigrants received $4.2 billion from the tax agency in just one year.

Harry Reid: Everybody Wants to Pay More in Taxes - 11 second video at breitbart.com | Transcription

Reid: "The only people who feel there shouldn't be more coming in to the Federal government from the rich people are the Republicans in Congress. Everybody else, including the rich people, are willing to pay more. They want to pay more."

5 second YouTube version posted by SenTedCruz: Sen. Reid thinks YOU WANT to pay more taxes.

Meanwhile, "The System is Working Fine" says Senator Harry Reid because it's not the system of America's Constitutional Republic. It's a deranged, alien system where illegals are given tax credits for claiming children who don't even live in this country and Americans, who can't even afford a doctor visit when sick, are expected to payout money monthly that they don't have to support a medical insurance racket that they can't afford so that illegals can get free health care. How's that Posse Comitatus Act working out for us? -- that shields the traitorous Congess from our Military acting as Law Enforcement for the Constitution and arresting their worse than useless Commie-clique.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-10-31   0:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

How's that Posse Comitatus Act working out for us? -- that shields the traitorous Congess from our Military acting as Law Enforcement for the Constitution and arresting their worse than useless Commie-clique.

Posse Comitatus Act

The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce the state laws.

The Act, as modified in 1981, refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

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In 2008, these changes in the Insurrection Act of 1807 were repealed in their entirety, reverting to the previous wording of the Insurrection Act[7] that in its original form was written to limit Presidential power as much as possible in the event of insurrection, rebellion, or lawlessness.

Ok, so it looks to me like they're all good to go as Constitutional Law Enforcement, not just the National Guards and the Coast Guards, because the PCA is a prohibition against Military enforcement of State laws and not a prohibition against their enforcement of Constitutional Law.

See also: Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms re: another group in each State that's necessarily exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act for the security purposes of our Constitutional Republic.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-10-31   4:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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