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Title: 8 Reasons Straight Men Don't Want To Get Married
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Published: Nov 3, 2013
Author: Helen Smith
Post Date: 2013-11-03 14:25:24 by abraxas
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8 Reasons Straight Men Don't Want To Get Married By Helen Smith November 02, 2013 "Information Clearing House - It seems that fewer and fewer people in general are getting married these days, and even fewer men seem interested. Men no longer see marriage as being as important as they did even 15 years ago. "According to Pew Research Center, the share of women ages eighteen to thirty-four that say having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives rose nine percentage points since 1997--from 28 percent to 37%. For men, the opposite occurred. The share voicing this opinion dropped, from 35 percent to 29 percent." Why? In the course of researching my new book, Men On Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - And Why It Matters, I talked with men all over America about why they're avoiding marriage. It turns out that the problem isn't that men are immature, or lazy. Instead, they're responding rationally to the incentives in today's society. Here are some of the answers I found. 1. You'll lose respect. A couple of generations ago, a man wasn't considered fully adult until he was married with kids. But today, fathers are figures of fun more than figures of respect: The schlubby guy with the flowered diaper bag at the mall, or one of the endless array of buffoonish TV dads in sitcoms and commercials. In today's culture, father never knows best. It's no better in the news media. As communications professor James Macnamara reports, "by volume, 69 percent of mass media reporting and commentary on men was unfavorable, compared with just 12 percent favorable and 19 percent neutral or balanced." 2. You'll lose out on sex. Married men have more sex than single men, on average - but much less than men who are cohabiting with their partners outside of marriage, especially as time goes on. Research even suggests that married women are more likely to gain weight than women who are cohabiting without marriage. A Men's Health article mentioned one study that followed 2,737 people for six years and found that cohabiters said they were happier and more confident than married couples and singles. 3. You'll lose friends. "Those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine." That's an old song, but it's true. When married, men's ties with friends from school and work tend to fade. Although both men and women lose friends after marriage, it tends to affect men's self-esteem more, perhaps because men tend to be less social in general. 4. You'll lose space. We hear a lot about men retreating to their "man caves," but why do they retreat? Because they've lost the battle for the rest of the house. The Art of Manliness blog mourns "The Decline of Male Space," and notes that the development of suburban lifestyles, intended to bring the family together, resulted in the elimination of male spaces in the main part of the house, and the exile of men to attics, garages, basements - the least desirable part of the home. As a commenter to the post observes: "There was no sadder scene to a movie than in 'Juno' when married guy Jason Bateman realized that in his entire huge, house, he had only a large closet to keep all the stuff he loved in. That hit me like a punch in the face." 5. You could lose your kids, and your money. And they may not even be your kids. Lots of men I spoke with were keenly aware of the dangers of divorce, and worried that if they were married and it went sour, the woman might take everything, including the kids. Other men were concerned that they might wind up paying child support for kids who aren't even theirs - a very real possibility in many states. On my blog, I polled over 3200 men to ask how they would react to finding out that a child wasn't theirs after all. 32 percent said they would feel "anger and fury at the mother," 6 percent said they would feel "depression," 18 percent said "anger and depression," 2 percent said "none of the above," 32 percent said "angry at the system that forced them to pay," and only 2 percent "didn't care." One man commented that his ex-wife had taunted him with the knowledge that his 11-year old son wasn't actually his: "I was angry at the mother...I severed all ties to the boy. Some may see this as a failing. I see it as self-preservation, and to those that ask the question of whether or not the courts will make a non-biological parent pay child support, pay attention: YES THEY WILL! They see you as nothing more than a source of cash for the child. It seems that a person in these situations should be able to sue the real father for child support." 6. You'll lose in court. Men often complain that the family court legal system is stacked against them, and in fact it seems to be. Women gain custody and child support the majority of the time, as pointed out in this ABC News article: "Despite the increases in men seeking and receiving alimony, advocates warn against linking the trend to equality in the courtroom. Family court judges still tend to favor women, said Ned Holstein, the founder of Fathers & Families, a group advocating family court reform. "'Family court still gives custody overwhelmingly to mothers, child support overwhelmingly to mothers, and courts still give almony overwhelmingly to mothers and women,' he said. 'The family courts came into existence years ago in order to give things to mothers that mothers needed," he said. 'The times have changed and the courts have not.'" 7. You'll lose your freedom. At least, if you're charged with child support that you can't pay, you can be put in jail - and if you can't afford a lawyer, you don't have the right to have one appointed because, according to the Supreme Court, it's technically a civil matter, never mind the jail time. Fathers and Families found that it's the men who are jailed rather than women: "A new report concludes that between 95% and 98.5% of all incarcerations in Massachusetts sentenced from the Massachusetts Probate and Family Courts from 2001 through 2011 have been men. Moreover, this percentage may be increasing, with an average of 94.5% from 2001 to 2008, and 96.2% from 2009 through 2011. It is likely that most of these incarcerations are for incomplete payment of child support. Further analysis suggests that women who fail to pay all of their child support are incarcerated only one-eighth as often as men with similar violations." 8. Single life is better than ever. While the value of marriage to men has declined, the quality of single life has improved. Single men were once looked on with suspicion, passed over for promotion for important jobs, which usually valued "stable family men," and often subjected to social opprobrium. It was hard to have a love life that wasn't aimed at marriage, and premarital sex was risky and frowned upon. Now, no one looks askance at the single lifestyle, dating is easy, and employers probably prefer employees with no conflicting family responsibilities. Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition. LOL! De wisdom of 4um put this article under resistance...
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#1. To: abraxas (#0)
That's such a negative article. Negative, negative, negative :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#2. To: abraxas (#0)
Bio of Helen Smith from HuffPo: "Helen Smith is a psychologist specializing in forensic issues and men’s issues in Knoxville, Tennessee. She holds a PhD from the University of Tennessee and master’s degrees from The New School for Social Research and the City University of New York. She has written The Scarred Heart: Understanding and Identifying Kids Who Kill and is the writer and executive producer of Six, a documentary about the murder of a family in Tennessee by teens from Kentucky. She has worked with men (as well as women and children) in her private practice for more than twenty years. She has been on numerous television and radio shows, including Montel Williams, and has appeared on E! Entertainment, Fox News, Discovery, Women’s Entertainment, Biography, Oxygen and the Learning Channel. Smith has written for numerous publications, including the L.A. Times, the Christian Science Monitor and The Cleveland Plain Dealer. She occasionally hosts a show at PJTV.com focusing on men’s issues, psychology and politics. She has written on her blog since 2005 on men’s rights, men’s issues and psychology and is now a columnist and blogger at PJ Media. Her latest book is Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters." Imagine if a man were to deem himself an expert on women's issues, the hue and cry from the progressive left would deafen the world. :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#3. To: X-15 (#1)
Truth hurts X. : ) The institution ain't what is used to be.......folks are asking, 'Cui Bono?' and only the homosexuals are answering in the affirmative. That's such a negative article.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#4. To: abraxas (#0)
It would appear that Helen Smith went looking for evidence to support the premise of her book.....and future book sales :) , Men On Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - And Why It Matters, I talked with men all over America about why they're avoiding marriage.
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: X-15 (#2)
Helen seems fully qualified to write about men boycotting marriage. Where in her bio does she claim to be an expert on women's issues? She's writing about men and marriage is a bisexual issue....lol! Imagine if a man were to deem himself an expert on women's issues, the hue and cry from the progressive left would deafen the world.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#6. To: X-15 (#4)
She didn't have to look very hard to support the premise that men don't want to get married and the reasons are also rather obvious.....marriage is on the decline except for in homosexual circles. Explains why my silly friend who always wanted to get married is now content with shacking up and paying rent! Offers aren't coming....... It would appear that Helen Smith went looking for evidence to support the premise
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#7. To: abraxas (#6)
Now you know full-well that old saying about statistics, do you really want to take the word of a pop-psychologist as being the final word on this subject? Explains why my silly friend who always wanted to get married is now content with shacking up and paying rent! There's an underlying issue there She didn't have to look very hard to support the premise that men don't want to get married and the reasons are also rather obvious.....marriage is on the decline except for in homosexual circles.
, that's not normal and you know that.
-Alex Kurtagic
#8. To: X-15 (#7)
Say, aren't you a confirmed bachelor who has never stepped foot inside the institution? LOL! What has kept you from the old ball and chain? Which items 1-8 are applicable to your avoiding two stepping down the isle? Oh no, I don't take Helen as the final word on the subject......for that I listen to experience. : ) Now you know full-well that old saying about statistics, do you really want to take the word of a pop-psychologist as being the final word on this subject?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#9. To: abraxas (#8)
I'm NOT afraid of losing friends/personal space/money/etc. and I don't refer to it as a "ball and chain" :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#10. To: abraxas (#0)
the socalled sexual revolution definitely disincentivized marriage for men. society crumbled as a result. if all that matters is personal pleasure, folks can have the morals of a german shephers & not care. however, the "benefit" is short -ilved & fleeting, & satisifies no one in the end. instead their choices will condemn them.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#11. To: abraxas (#0)
A. Regarding the author's # 5 and #6: 14 states recognize common-law marriages and 8 states recognize domestic partnerships, which give women in those non-marital arrangements the right to sue for child custody and support. Avoiding marriage is not a fail proof answer for men to keep $ in their wallets. B. The author neglects to mention #9 - which is the fact that Millenium young men have a very high unemployment rate along with large college loan debts ( they don't qualify for gender equality Affirmative Action scholarships like women do), and in interviews with Millienium men, they have been quoted as saying they can barely support themselves with the part-time and/or poorly paid jobs they have, so they shun deep committments that might lead to marriage because they are no position to be "bread winners."
#12. To: scrapper2 (#11)
Excellent points Scrapper....marriage is the last thing on the minds of the young men who are packing up and returning to mom's nest.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#13. To: abraxas (#3)
Not so. My BIL's partner of 12+ years just decided that he didn't want to be partners any longer. ...and only the homosexuals are answering in the affirmative.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#14. To: Artisan (#10)
To be fair, many German shepherds are in fact more moral than humans. he morals of a german shepherds
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#15. To: abraxas (#0)
For me, it was close a couple of times, but never happened. Now, I'm too old to think about that sort of thing. ;) 8 Reasons Straight Men Don't Want To Get Married
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#16. To: abraxas (#14)
I knew a guy in Chicago that had a German Shepherd. He sold her to a guy in a junk yard. Then one night he went over there and called her. The dog jumped the fence and came back to him. It was a lot of years back, and both are dead now. ;) To be fair, many German shepherds are in fact more moral than humans.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#17. To: Lod (#13)
A break up instead of waltzing down the isle? My BIL's partner of 12+ years just decided that he didn't want to be partners any longer.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#18. To: BTP Holdings (#16)
That German Shepherd was loyal and forgave him instantly for the separation. : ) The dog jumped the fence and came back to him.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#19. To: abraxas (#17)
He waltzed out of their partnership.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#20. To: abraxas (#18)
Yes, exactly. ;) That German Shepherd was loyal and forgave him instantly for the separation.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#21. To: abraxas (#0)
Works pretty good, dudn't it? :) LOL! De wisdom of 4um put this article under resistance...
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