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Title: China to ease one-child policy
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Published: Nov 15, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-11-15 23:16:57 by Tatarewicz
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BEIJING, Nov. 15 (Xinhua) -- China will loosen its decades-long one-child population policy, allowing couples to have two children if one of them is an only child, according to a key decision issued on Friday by the Communist Party of China (CPC).

China will implement this new policy while adhering to the basic state policy of family planning, according to the decision on major issues concerning comprehensively deepening reforms, which was approved at the Third Plenary Session of the 18th CPC Central Committee held from Nov. 9 to 12 in Beijing.

The birth policy will be adjusted and improved step by step to promote "long-term balanced development of the population in China," it said.

Relaxing the policy will keep China's birth rate at a stable level, said Guo Zhenwei, a family-planning official with the National Health and Family Planning Commission.

To ensure coordinated economic and social development, the population size for China should be kept at about 1.5 billion, said Guo, citing the results of a study sponsored by the State Council, China's cabinet.

China should keep its total fertility rate at around 1.8, and the current rate is between 1.5 to 1.6, allowing the country to maneuver its population policy, according to Guo.

Wu Cangping, an adviser with the China Population Association, believed the change in China's family planning policy will unlikely lead to a baby boom because of Chinese parents' traditional preference for more children has changed due to rapid social progress in the country.

The change in policy was met with a warm response.

Many Internet users welcomed the change while others said they would have a second thought when giving birth to a second child because of high living costs.

An Internet user identified herself as "Hikaruhuang" hailed the reform as "very good." She said her child would have a companion and less pressure in elder care.

China's family planning policy was first introduced in the late 1970s to rein in the surging population by limiting most urban couples to one child and most rural couples to two children, if the first child born was a girl.

One-child families are entitled to bonuses and other benefits. Official statistics show such families account for 37.5 percent of China's more than 1.3 billion population.

The policy was later relaxed, with its current form stipulating that both parents must be only children if they are to have a second child.

Since its implementation, it is estimated the policy has resulted in a reduction of some 400 million people in China.

However, the policy has also been blamed for generating a number of social problems.

China's labor force, at about 940 million, decreased by 3.45 million year on year in 2012, marking the first "absolute decrease." The labor force is estimated to decrease by about 29 million over the current decade.

Meanwhile, the country's growing elderly population aged 60 and over, which accounted for 14.3 percent of the total currently, is forecast to exceed one third of the population in 2050.

Gender imbalance is another side effect of the one-child policy. Chinese parents' preference for sons led to the abortion of female foetuses due to the policy.

About 118 boys are born for every 100 girls in 2012, higher than the normal ratio of 103 to 107 boys for every 100 girls. Millions of Chinese men will be unable to find wives in 2030.

Economists say the one-child policy is also a cause for the high savings rate among Chinese people.

"The change in the family planning policy will certainly affect China's one-child generation -- some of whom have already become parents. It will help them enjoy a better future," wrote an Internet user called herself "shanma123."

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

its so disgusting that any goveernment would have the gall to dictate to humans how many kids theyre "allowed" to have. and here we're told that the ussa opposes 'despots'.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-16   2:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#1)

The government is us.

Why should other Chinese be expected to pay for people's children outside the replacement number?

Gall? Really?

Gall is people thinking they can have 5 kids when they can only afford to support ONE.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-16   3:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)

why do you equate government 'paying for people's children' with government authority to dictate how many children people can have?

eugenecists aren't controlling the number of kids people have so that the government wont have to pay for them.

the welfare state or lack thereof is a separate issue than forced population control.

if you are for limited government, then there is no rational way you could argue that government could ever have valid authority to control something so personal. Only an evil despot (such as the red Chinese commies) would ever dream of controlling people's reproductive rights.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-16   22:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#3)

China's mean education is 7.5 years.

Try selling 2 children replacement value on rural uneducated rural Chinese.

Btw, the 1 child policy was implemented for economic reasons, not due to eugenics.

It had a rational reason and purpose.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-17   0:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#4)

I thought you were Catholic?

If so, you should certainly know the evils of communism and how many millions of innocent people they have slaughtered.

and also, the blatant evil of such a policy to have a government infringe on the very most basic rights and dignities of human beings. the right of procreation.

bush sr., planned parenthood, the entire nwo gang, all love and promoted this power to control populations. it can never be excused or justified.

It had a rational reason and purpose

Anything that goes against the law of God is by its very nature irrational because God is the author of rationality and righteousness. Since the purpose of the procreative act is to procreate, anything that thwarts that unnaturally is by definition an evil purpose.

the serious societal problems china has now, including kidnapping of women, are some results of this evil policy.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-17   17:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#5)

I thought you were Catholic?

Anything that goes against the law of God is by its very nature irrational because God is the author of rationality and righteousness. Since the purpose of the procreative act is to procreate, anything that thwarts that unnaturally is by definition an evil purpose.

I was raised a Catholic.

It doesn't mean I'm still a practicing Catholic or that I agree with all the Catholic Church's current positions.

Even Pope Francis himself might be reconsidering some of those positions for doctrine reform. You must know that Pope Francis has sent out a survey to the world’s Catholics "seeking their opinion on many issues via 38 questions, including the controversial – gay marriage, divorced and cohabitating couples, ABORTION and CONTRACEPTION. Some see that move as Francis’s effort to prepare the ground for reform before next year’s ecclesiastic synod, where the heads of the church gather to decide on doctrine."

www.forbes.com/sites/ceci...eryones-loving-it-so-far/

Btw, Pope Francis has stated that the State is charged with providing for the common good. Some say that China's one child policy was instituted for the common good.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-17   20:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#6)

I had not known that the Pope sent out a survey. But I can guarantee that he will not change any doctrine, nor does he have the ability to do so. I hate to do a cut n paste but below is a few links & excerpts on the matter. Vatican II for example, changed no doctrine even though people think it did, since the church changed so radically afterwards. But V2 was actually a pastoral council, which doesn't even address doctrine. (Doctrine i.e.: The Eucharist is the real body and blood of Jesus Christ, or that Mary was born without original sin, and the teachings on the last four things- death judgment, heaven and hell.

for example if the pope says we should have compassion towards homosexuals, he did not say that sodomy is not a sin or that homos can get married; for that would defy the very definition of marriage. as defined by the church.

nor will any pope change the teaching on contraception, or fornication, or murder.

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http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/papac2.htm

When the Pope intends by virtue of his supreme authority to teach on a matter of faith and morals to the entire Church, he MUST be protected by the Holy Spirit from error -- else the powers of hell would prevail...

When the Pope (1) intends to teach (2) by virtue of his supreme authority (3) on a matter of faith and morals (4) to the whole Church, he is preserved by the Holy Spirit from error. His teaching act is therefore called "infallible" and the teaching which he articulates is termed "irreformable".

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Here's a good page on various doctrines of the church

http://www.ewtn.com/faith/t eachings/index.asp @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

There are theological and logistical limits on the changes he can make. He can't create new doctrine out of thin air.

"Popes are servants of the church's settled tradition, not the tradition's masters," said papal biographer George Weigel, senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C.

While the pope has authority to govern the church, he must answer to its doctrine as a president answers to the Constitution, said Edward Peters, canon law professor at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit.

"There are an awful lot of things he's in charge of, but he's not free to change a doctrine of the church or to alter the fundamental structure of things like the papacy," he said. Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/world/2013/03/10/What-a-pope-can-and- cannot-do-Doctrine-limits-new-pope-on-changes/stories/201303100177#ixzz2kya8G1Me

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From Cardinal Dolan of NY:

http://blog.archny.org/index.php/a-few-bloopers/

One would be that the Pope has a divine status in the Church. True, while Catholics love the Holy Father, and consider loyalty to him a virtue, we hardly consider him divine! He is the Successor of St. Peter, whom we believe Jesus appointed earthly pastor of His Church (Mt. 16). And anyone familiar with St. Peter, as shown in the New Testament, knows that he was far from divine! In fact, our first Pope was a big sinner. He denied even knowing Jesus at the very time the Lord needed his friend Peter the most.

An inquirer even used the word “worshiper” when referring to us Catholics in relation to the Pope. That’s malarkey! We can only worship the one true God, not any mere mortal, no matter how revered his office may be, or we violate the first commandment.

A second common misperception is that a new Pope can “change doctrine.” That, of course, is impossible. Catholicism is a revealed religion, meaning we believe that God has told us about Himself and about the meaning of life, primarily by sending us His Son as the “Word made flesh.”

To preserve this truth, to “pass on” the faith to our children, is at the very essence of the Church, and the “job description” of the Pope. He cannot change the deposit of faith.

Some have the impression that we are electing a man who has a “platform,” who can decide new “policies” for the Church. We are not.

Yes, a new Pope can develop fresh, new strategies to better, and more effectively, teach the doctrines of the faith. In fact, this is a big part of what we call the New Evangelization: to express the timeless truths of the faith – – especially the message and mystery of the Person who called himself the Truth, Jesus – – in a timely, radiant, more compelling way. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Can the Church change its doctrines?

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/can-the-church-change-its-doctrines

No, the Church cannot change its doctrines no matter how badly some theologians may want it to or how loudly they claim it can. The doctrines of the Catholic Church are the deposit of faith revealed by Jesus Christ, taught by the apostles, and handed down in their entirety by the apostles to their successors. Since revealed truth cannot change, and since the deposit of faith is comprised of revealed truth, expressed in Scripture and Sacred Tradition, the deposit of faith cannot change.

While it's certainly true that our Lord's words to the apostles in Matthew 18:18-19 grant authority to the apostles to "bind" the members of the Church to believe the doctrines of the Church ("He who listens to you listens to me. He who rejects you rejects me and the one who sent me" [Luke 10:16]), the "loosing" spoken of in Mathew. 18:18 does not mean the apostles can modify doctrine.

The Church does not have the power to do the impossible, to change or delete divinely revealed truth which forms the deposit of faith. Rather, the concept of loosing, as it pertains to the apostles and their successors, has more to do the Church's ability to dispense individuals or the whole Church from observing certain ecclesiastical disciplines. There are many examples of this authority to bind and loose in the arena of Church discipline. Here are a few:

In the early Church married men were permitted to be ordained as priests in the West. This custom was changed in the tenth century and since then, in the Latin Rite, candidates for the priesthood must be celibate.

Until recent years it was forbidden under pain of mortal sin to eat meat on Fridays. The Church has "loosed" this discipline and now allows the faithful to eat meat on Fridays provided some other act of mortification is performed.

Prior to Vatican II, the pre-Communion fast extended from midnight until the time one received Communion; no food or water were to be consumed. This discipline was relaxed first to a three-hour fast and then to the one-hour fast the Church now observes.

Matthew 18 also refers to the Church's authority to bind and loose with regard to sin. Every priest has the authority of Christ to "loose" (absolve) penitents from their sins through the sacrament of confession (Jn 20:21-22, 2 Cor 5:18- 20). The priest also has the obligation, in rare cases when he sees no evidence of contrition or an unwillingness on the part of the penitent to stop committing sin, to "bind" someone in their sins by refusing to grant him absolution until he evinces genuine contrition.

The faithful may gain indulgences through corporal and spiritual acts of charity, certain prayers, and pilgrimages, and are thus, by the authority of the Church's power to bind and loose, able to receive partial or complete remission of all temporal punishment due to sin. Through indulgences the Church may loose Christians from the duty of penance which would otherwise need to be performed.

Certain forms of excommunication may be "loosed" only by a bishop or, in graver circumstances, only by the Holy See.

Priests and religious who request it can be "loosed" (dispensed) from their vows of celibacy (and, in the case of religious, the vows of poverty and obedience).

None of these issues deals with doctrine as such (since doctrine is unchangeable) but with Church discipline, government, and penance.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-18   2:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#7)

Whatever.

Keep in mind that Pope Francis is a JESUIT! Hello! Anarchist to Church dogma, a rose by any other name....coming to your parish church soon!

www.washingtonpost.com/na...e-a1f23cda135e_story.html

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The wary traditionalists became critical when, in an interview a few weeks ago, Francis said Catholics shouldn’t be “obsessed” with imposing doctrines, including on gay marriage and abortion. Then earlier this month, Francis told an atheist journalist that people should follow good and fight evil as they “conceive” of them. These remarks followed an interview with journalists this summer aboard the papal airplane in which the pope declared that it is not his role to judge someone who is gay “if they accept the Lord and have goodwill.”

Never mind that the pope has also made clear his acceptance of church doctrine, which regards gay sex and abortion as sins and bans women from the priesthood. Behind the growing skepticism is the fear in some quarters that Francis’s all-embracing style and spontaneous speech, so open as it is to interpretation, are undoing decades of church efforts to speak clearly on Catholic teachings. Some conservatives also feel that the pope is undermining them at a time when they are already being sidelined by an increasingly secular culture.

“When [abortion rights group] NARAL sends you a thank-you note, it’s clear something got miscommunicated,” said Robert Royal, president of the D.C. think tank Faith & Reason...

...Some report praying deeply on the matter and finding that struggling with the dissonance has strengthened their connection to their faith. They are sharing widely online essays with names like “Pope Francis is killing me,” and “Why Pope Francis makes me uncomfortable.” ...

...Gregory Popcak, a marriage and family counselor on the radio and in private practice in Ohio, describes being sent deep into prayer after several clients used Francis’s public words to push back on Popcak when he explained church teachings on sex and love. One client recently quit, saying, “I’m much more of a Pope Francis-Nancy Pelosi Catholic, and you’re an old-school, Pope John Paul II Catholic,” he recalled...

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-18   2:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: scrapper2 (#8)

Ive never heard Pope John Paul II referred to as an 'old school' Catholic. if anything, critics sometimes claimed the opposite. Nevertheless he is going to be canonized a saint on April 27, 2014. This is the church affirming that he is in Heaven.

Here is a sermon from my favorite website audiosancto.org on that very topic http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20131101-It-Is-Really- Not-So-Hard-to-Become-a-Saint.html

Here is the actual interview with Pope Francis that everyone is misinterpreting., people claiming that he is going to endorse sodomites and baby killers. that is so, so absurd and maybe wishful thinking on many people's part.

It will never happen.

http://americamagazine.org/pope-interview

Here is an excerpt from his interview. Note (in bold) he says that the church teaching is clear. he's just saying its not necessary to obsess on abortion and homos, that is missing the bigger point.

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible. I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that. But when we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context. The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.

"The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently. Proclamation in a missionary style focuses on the essentials, on the necessary things: this is also what fascinates and attracts more, what makes the heart burn, as it did for the disciples at Emmaus. We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel. The proposal of the Gospel must be more simple, profound, radiant. It is from this proposition that the moral consequences then flow.

“I say this also thinking about the preaching and content of our preaching. A beautiful homily, a genuine sermon must begin with the first proclamation, with the proclamation of salvation. There is nothing more solid, deep and sure than this proclamation. Then you have to do catechesis. Then you can draw even a moral consequence. But the proclamation of the saving love of God comes before moral and religious imperatives. Today sometimes it seems that the opposite order is prevailing. The homily is the touchstone to measure the pastor’s proximity and ability to meet his people, because those who preach must recognize the heart of their community and must be able to see where the desire for God is lively and ardent. The message of the Gospel, therefore, is not to be reduced to some aspects that, although relevant, on their own do not show the heart of the message of Jesus Christ.”

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-18   13:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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