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Title: Rand Paul: Israel is "one friend that never leaves our side, has never wavered"
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Published: Nov 18, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-11-18 18:00:53 by Artisan
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In case you missed the latest from yarmulke-wearing Rand Paul: Last week at the Citadel, Paul said that "we have always had one friend that never leaves our side-Israel. As an ally, Israel has never wavered. One thing you can know for sure is you will never see an Israeli burning the American flag." I guess Paul, who admitted last summer that he 'meets with Israeli groups daily,' has never heard of the USS Liberty. (Article continues here.) Subscribe to *RAND PAUL*

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#1. To: Artisan, All (#0)

"One thing you can know for sure is you will never see an Israeli burning the American flag."

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-18   18:40:35 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

I guess Paul, who admitted last summer that he 'meets with Israeli groups daily,' has never heard of the USS Liberty.

Or, Jonathan Pollard ? Truth be told Jews have been spies and traitors since before the Revolutionary War. Haym Solomon, often regarded as some sort of philanthropist was a war profiteer as were many Jews. Jews had been supplying war materials to princes and kings for millenia.

Even Benedict Arnold was affiliated with numerous Jews that were partners with him in thefts and treasons.

"Just say no to drugs and Uncle Sambo."

noone222  posted on  2013-11-18   18:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)


It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-11-18   18:57:06 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Buzzard, noone222, Artisan, 4 (#3)

Adios, Rand.

Wear your beanie into the sunset.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-18   19:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#0)

He just lost my vote! I don't tolerate such ass kissing and lying! Good luck Rand, you are going to need it being a professional ass kisser.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-11-18   19:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

Adios, Rand.

Wear your beanie into the sunset.

If he doesn't change his ways he will wear that beanie straight through the gates of hell.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-11-18   19:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#6)

Yep, I had to tell Ted Cruz to take me off his mailing list when I learned of his visits to Zizrael.

That is my line in the sand...a man cannot serve two masters.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-18   20:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#4)

Adios, Rand.

Wear your beanie into the sunset.

Faithful ally...

I have to barf at such.

Israel is a parasite upon this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-18   21:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222, Lod, Paulites (#2)

The Pauls are both users of obfuscation, using it to brainwash the few followers remaining.

"The Courier-Journal article quoted Paul as saying that the depiction of him as anti-Israel because he favors foreign aid cuts was a “misrepresentation.”

“It is not my position to be against Israel,” the first-term senator and Tea Party darling said. “I’m appreciative of the fact that Israel is a democracy, one of the few true democracies in the Middle East, and I’m also appreciative that they’ve been a close friend and ally.”

.........Paul said foreign aid cuts “should start with countries who have not been good allies.... I wouldn’t start with Israel.”.......

“Whether or not we can afford to continue aid to Israel over time, there needs to be discussion with Israel over them being more independent,” he added.

Israel receives some $3 billion in annual US military assistance, some 74 percent of which is spent in the US.

“I want to know more about the issues... [and] try to figure out why we don’t seem to be able to achieve peace over there,” Paul said of his trip. “If you want to be part of the national debate and hopefully part of the solution someday to what happens in the Middle East, having been there gives you more credibility with some folks.”

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-18   22:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom, abraxas (#9) (Edited)

The Pauls are both users of obfuscation, using it to brainwash the few followers remaining.

Ron Paul opposed ALL foreign aid, including aid to Israel. He was the only representative/senator to take such a stand. Please pay particular attention to Ron Paul at 2:10 in this interview:

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-18   22:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#0)

Beware the apple , it does NOT fall far from the tree. Not ever.

______________________________________

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2013-11-18   22:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#10)

Please pay particular attention to Ron Paul at 2:10 in this interview:

Did so...

Same as usual obfuscation as ever, dance all over it.

A simple yes or no answer is not to be found.

Ron and Rand are no different from any other professional politicians.

Staying in congress until age 100 or for 50 years is not a laudable career. Ron stayed for 22 years, way beyond any useful purpose.

The Founding Fathers said congressmen should stay for a season, then go home and get on with their life.

"Question to Paul...Are you for or against foreign aid to Israel...

I have yet to see or read a yes or no answer. Adding "explanation" is a cowardly way out, trying to have it both ways. His son is running for president, Rand wears his little beanie.

Voters are often conned.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-18   22:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite (#11)

Professional politicians of ALL stripes have one goal in mind, power and position. After one election their obsession becomes being reelected, at any price required.

To me, one term as Senator, three terms as Congressman and then go the hell away.

The South got it right, one six year term for President and go away.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-18   22:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod, greylmist, chirstine, cynicom (#7)

Much support for the Pauls was due to what they didn't say or what they opposed in big government. An example is their stands on life. Both sides could support them because they wanted government out of the issue. Most of us have conclded that starving the federal beast would help America in the long run.

Unfortunately on the subject of our entangled alliance with Israel, we can't afford to support a politician who fears the lobby and troubles himself with its "sovereignty." We can't waste time.

We all know why these men are asked to don the beanie and why so few refuse. Ron helped more than hindered but simply cutting funds isn't a complete plan. Rand may be close to recieving GOP's tea party mantle, meaning he has been accepted as safe for the established order.

Restoring liberty to 1790s levels will not happen until Americans realize that Zionism is a self-destructive cause.

America first.

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-18   23:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom, *Music Club* (#12) (Edited)

Please pay particular attention to Ron Paul at 2:10 in this interview:

Did so...

Same as usual obfuscation as ever, dance all over it.

A simple yes or no answer is not to be found.

[...]

"Question to Paul...Are you for or against foreign aid to Israel...

I have yet to see or read a yes or no answer. Adding "explanation" is a cowardly way out, trying to have it both ways. [...]

Uhhhhh...Hah-ha!

REM & Dan Rather - What's The Frequency Kenneth? - 1995

The question at 1:54 of the video at #10 was: "Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?" not: "Are you for or against foreign aid to Israel?...Yes or no?" Nevertheless, on the issue of Foreign Aid to Israel, he says there of his own initiative and in 2 seconds at 2:22-2:24: [...] I wouldn't give Foreign Aid to Israel. [...]

Tell us how, on the Cynicom-wavelength, the properest answer to the question, "Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?", would have been simply a "Yes" or "No". Your "yes" or "no" fixation-dance is nonsensical and borders on craven without any sourced examples presented by you for your obfuscating claims, as if he alone -- of all the candidates -- was to be childishly limited to a "Yes" or "No" answer only on a "for or against" test-of-bravery question about Foreign Aid to Israel but failed (according to you) by going above and beyond just one spoken word.

Edited for punctuation.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-19   4:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#15)

My litmus test (as I've likely stated a million times before) is simply this:

(1). Zionism is a fraud that anyone pretending to be an intelligent being that wishes to be a congressional representative should vehemently oppose.

(2). The FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM is a monetary atom bomb embezzling the wealth away from America and into European Jewish banker coffers, but worse than that it has allowed the common-law constitution to be usurped by commercial law or what is otherwise known as LAW MERCHANT. (This legal machination has made slaves of the entire country).

The jackals in D.C. (every last one of them is either complicit in the above or they're simply too fucking stupid to be anyone's respresentative).

This causes me to state that people that remain addicted to the great freedom/democracy lie and contribute in any way to the 2 issues listed above are way too stupid to have their "vote" impact me. The aforementioned "voters" are electing hell on earth.

"Judah was the single tribe with which Israel could not live in peace over 2,000 years ago, and which has the baleful gift of stirring up the same kind of dissension today. Yet no one ever thought of charging the Ten Tribes of Israel with "anti-Semitism." ."

The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-19   6:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#16)

This causes me to state that people that remain addicted to the great freedom/democracy lie and contribute in any way to the 2 issues listed above are way too stupid to have their "vote" impact me. The aforementioned "voters" are electing hell on earth.

What???? That can't be true???????

Why, all I have to do is put a ...(pick one)...republican or democrat... in office, ALL WILL BE WELL AGAIN.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-19   10:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist (#15)

Tell us how, on the Cynicom-wavelength, the properest answer to the question, "Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?",

hehehehehe...

Good job!

When the kemosabe chimes in with the timeless circular reel prop, you know you caught a fibberoonie.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-11-19   12:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#0)

Disappointing, but not surprising. There has already been reports of his courting Israel to get vetted by the lobby, but nothing lately until now.

Best case scenario in 2016. It'll be Rand vs Hillary. I'd still need major convincing to vote at all.

John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics:
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2013-11-19   13:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom, X-15, GreyLMist (#12) (Edited)

Same as usual obfuscation as ever, dance all over it.

A simple yes or no answer is not to be found.

Question: Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?

Yes.

No.

Which answer is correct? Which answer is definitive so as not to obfuscate?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-11-19   14:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas, Cynicom (#20)

Ron Paul at 2:25 in the video above: "But I wouldn't give foreign aid to Israel". That seems fairly clear, without any obfuscation.

: )

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-19   14:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: X-15, 4 (#21)

Rand is no Ron.

Does anyone here know if Senator Mike Lee has taken the beanie?

Thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-19   14:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: X-15, Cynicom (#21)

Ron Paul at 2:25 in the video above: "But I wouldn't give foreign aid to Israel". That seems fairly clear, without any obfuscation.

Yes, very clear.....unless, of course, there are wads of butt hurt stuffed in both ears. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2013-11-19   14:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Artisan (#0)

when i read the title, my first thought was, oh gawd....

To question is to value the ideal of truth more highly than the loyalties to nation, religion, race, or ideology.

christine  posted on  2013-11-19   16:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine, All (#24)

Rand Paul has been assimilated, he's a confirmed bagelsniffer, now.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-11-19   17:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#24)

Parasites never leave voluntarily.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-19   17:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scrapper2 (#18)

"Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?",

Next to the wailing wall. (Where politicians wail for campagn contributions (bribes).

What does he wear ?

A beanie, of course.

"The amount of our National Debt is the measure of our enslavement to Jewish World Finance. We live in a democracy, yet loans are contracted that always cost more than the amount of the loan, and no one has a word to say about it. We Americans do not know how much interest we pay every year, and we don't know to whom we pay it."

The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-20   4:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deasy (#14)

America first.

It is fruitless to look within the government, for anyone to become President and stop this fall into chaos.

The founding Fathers gave us a way out of such a mess, however they under estimated the intelligence of the voters firstly and secondly, they erred in not anticipating an era of professional politicians.

The real power rests in the hands of those appointed and behind the scenes.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-20   4:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine, x-15, lod (#24)

every few months i go to rands senate website & do an archive search. it NEVER fails to garner priceless gems such as this. LoL!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-20   7:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

Overestimated rather? Most think it incomprehensible that their family sacrifices were for a Leviathan.

Deasy  posted on  2013-11-20   11:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deasy (#30)

Back in their times, most of the masses had little or no schooling. However, I suspect the Fathers gave them credit for a modicum of intelligence, which has nothing to do with schooling.

I have a copy of a Revolutionary war pension given to an ancestor in early 1800s where he signed with an X.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-20   12:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222, scrapper2 (#27)

"Where does Mr. Paul stand on Israel?",

Next to the wailing wall. (Where politicians wail for campagn contributions (bribes).

What does he wear ?

A beanie, of course.

The question you cited was for Ron Paul, noone, not Rand Paul.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-20   13:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#16)

End the Fed is a 2009 book by Congressman Ron Paul of Texas. The book debuted at number six on the New York Times Best Seller list and advocates the abolition of the United States Federal Reserve System.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-11-20   13:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

have a copy of a Revolutionary war pension given to an ancestor in early 1800s where he signed with an X.

you shoulld scan & post that. it would be very interesting to see.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-11-20   15:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Artisan (#34)

Trying to learn how to scan and post photos of myself at NSA years ago.

Other day, my cell phone got turned off and had to have a kid show me how to turn on again.

Not fun gettin olde.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-20   16:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#35)

Go get the kid and let him teach you how it's done.

(I need to find a kid myself for scanning pics...)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-20   16:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#36)

Sir Lod...

Really torques me when my puter has funny stuff on it and cant get rid of it.

I hire the kid and within two minutes puter is back to normal. I give him ten bucks and he whistles on his way out, knowing he skinned the olde man one more time.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-11-20   16:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#37)

Ten bones well, well, spent.

It saves your sanity, Cyni.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-20   17:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#38)

Ten bones well, well, spent.

It saves your sanity, Cyni.

My son told me if I downloaded "quicktime" he'd send me some vids of my grandson. So, I downloaded it (and a bunch of crap started happening / changed my homepage, added a search engine I didn't want and some other stuff) and it took me about 4 hours to get things back to normal.

I got a video from my kid that was 1:26 long. (1 minute 26 seconds).

"The amount of our National Debt is the measure of our enslavement to Jewish World Finance. We live in a democracy, yet loans are contracted that always cost more than the amount of the loan, and no one has a word to say about it. We Americans do not know how much interest we pay every year, and we don't know to whom we pay it."

The Dearborn Independent / Henry Ford

noone222  posted on  2013-11-21   13:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#39)

I hate that "sneak-ware" that some companies add with whatever application a person wanted.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-11-21   14:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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