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Immigration See other Immigration Articles Title: Border Patrol: crowd confronts agents SAN YSIDRO A group of about 100 people trying to illegally cross the border Sunday near the San Ysidro port of entry threw rocks and bottles at U.S. Border Patrol agents, who responded by using pepper spray and other means to force the crowd back into Mexico, federal officials said. The incident has raised concerns among advocates on both sides of the immigration debate, as well as Border Patrol representatives. Immigrant-rights groups in San Diego said they didnt know beforehand about the plan to rush the border, and they worry that desperation is driving homeless deportees to make a bold bid to rejoin their families in the United States. Border-security groups see this situation as evidence that the border remains unsecured, something they said should be fixed before Congress considers proposals to grant legal status to unauthorized immigrants. And Border Patrol representatives worry that Sundays confrontation could be a political protest, which they said agents want to avoid especially when it involves the potential for loss of life. The incident occurred about a quarter-mile west of the San Ysidro border crossing in the Tijuana River channel. No one was seriously injured, no shots were fired and no arrests were made, said Mary Beth Caston, a Border Patrol spokeswoman. The group first approached a lone agent stationed about 1/8 of a mile north of the border. They ignored his commands to stop, so he fired pepper balls to try to stop them and protect himself, Caston said. As the crowd kept advancing and throwing rocks and bottles, she said, more agents came to the scene and used other intermediate use-of-force devices to push back the group. The agents also contacted Mexican law enforcement. Tijuanas top police officer, Public Safety Secretary J. Alberto Capella, said There is no information that we can provide. He referred questions to the U.S. Border Patrol. The spokesman for Tijuana police, Rafael Morales, said the agencys officers did not intervene and had no knowledge of the incident. Caston said several agents were struck in the arms and legs with rocks, and that one agent was hit in the head with a filled water bottle. While attacks on Border Patrol agents are not uncommon, the agents showed great restraint when faced with the dangers of this unusually large group, and fortunately no one was serious injured, said Paul Beeson, San Diego sector chief for the Border Patrol. The agency did not specify the time of Sundays incident. This type of rush on the border has not been seen since the late 1980s and early 90s, when groups of border-crossers would run into the U.S. while agents tried to apprehend as many people as possible. The practice mostly disappeared after Operation Gatekeeper began in 1994 and brought with it tall fences, walls and more agents. If it was a protest, it was a really stupid way to go about it because there were individuals who started throwing rocks and other projectiles, said Shawn Moran, vice president of the National Border Patrol Council. Its not the right venue; agents do not enact legislation, dont write laws or write polices. If protesters want to address Congress and try to change laws, so be it. Local border-security advocates were on edge Monday about the incident. Obviously, these attempted mass crossing and attacks on our border agents show that our border is not secure, said Jeff Schwilk of the San Diegans for Secure Borders Coalition. All the talk in Washington this year of another amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants is just encouraging more desperate foreigners to enter our country illegally. Immigrant-rights advocates said they doubt the mass rush was organized. Christian Ramirez, human rights director for the Southern Border Communities Coalition, said he does not believe the move could have been a strategic protest. He views it as an act of desperation on the part of deportees who have been pushed to live around the river in makeshift camps or those who are set up in other migrant camps in the city. These are deportees who face the most challenging situations, he and other immigrant advocates said. Many do not speak Spanish, have no roots in Mexico, have criminal records or tattoos and cannot find jobs or get registered in Mexico. Most are homeless and live in makeshift camps that have sprouted up in and around the river. The incident raises questions again about how Border Patrol responds in such situations and if it adheres to its use-of-force policies. The agency has not released its policies despite numerous requests to do so after several high profile deaths. Because of the growing instances in which Border Patrol has been involved in this sort of use-of-force that its important for the agency to be transparent, Ramirez said. To report to the public exactly what went on and to report what weapons were used. Advocates acknowledge the restraint agents used under the circumstances but they still have concerns given the agencys recent decision to continue to use deadly force against rock throwers. This despite an outside review that recommended the agency rethink that approach. On Monday, a group of congressional members sent a letter to the agency asking for more clarity regarding use-of-force policies. Poster Comment: Illegals throwing rocks and bottles at US FEDERAL border patrol agents and the response is PEPPER SPRAY?????????????????????????? Pepper spray is what protects and defends our border and US sovereignty? Is this what our forefathers fought and died for? Paging Bonehead and McConnell - pick up the white courtesy phone - you have Americans ob your side if you would pick up the phone and microphone and say to the general public: "We're not going to put up with this sh*t anymore. We're going to impeach the foreigner and his anti-American criminal compadre, Holder, and we're going to deport, deport, deport - that's what immigration reform entails - i.e. following the rules on the books and deporting all illegal aliens.". Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)
40 cal. hollow points work very well in making one's point, except that they are intended for Americans, not illegal aliens. The insanity of all this is getting hard to take.
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Yes pepper spray... it seems reasonable enough all things considered in all ways. IT is a what the fuck moment for sure and time for them to electrify their fences to be sure ..... BUt come now, Do you really wanna murder people over this? Is that what christ would have us do to a crowd of dipshits throwing rocks and men that can kill them on a police state whim? .... Come now. YOu know how well armed they are and how easy it would be for them to mow down lives like grass. But is that truly what you crave? California has issues. God knows how to resolve em. I never see or read shit like that in Texas. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
It seems that way, doesn't it?
I never see or read shit like that in Texas. How come Texas won't have the same issues in the very near future? Let me remind you that border patrol is a Federal ( DHS) department. Texas' border patrol agents have the same boss as California - i.e. Bammy - who hasn't seen an illegal he doesn't love.
of course Texas will have the same issues. it already does. Bilderberg Perry is totally owned by fedgov.
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