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Title: Properly Observing Pearl Harbor Day
Source: Rebellion Blog
URL Source: http://www.lsrebellion.blogspot.com/
Published: Dec 7, 2013
Author: Bernhard Thuersam
Post Date: 2013-12-07 12:31:51 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 296
Comments: 14

The sacrifices of those who served in the American military in December, 1941 should be recounted often for us all to ponder and appreciate and the 3000 Americans who died at Pearl Harbor should not have perished in vain. The sincerest memorial to those who fought and died in this tragedy (and others) is to analyze and discuss the multitude of reasons why it happened, and how do we ensure that American servicemen are not knowingly put in harm’s way for political purposes ever again. As there is far too much information available today for the surprise attack myth to survive scrutiny, and thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and declassification of hundreds of thousands of decoded Japanese messages, we can now get a more clear picture of how events unfolded in 1941.

The myth reported by court historians and the media is that the US was minding its own business until the Japanese launched an unprovoked attack at Pearl Harbor, thereby dragging a reluctant US into a world struggle. In reality, the US under FDR had been deeply involved in Far Eastern affairs for some time, and those policies actually provoked the Japanese attack.

As Oliver Lyttleton, British Minister of Production stated in 1944….”Japan was provoked into attacking America at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty to say that America was forced into the War.”

After FDR’s numerous provocations toward Germany without retaliation (while the US was neutral) he switched his focus to Japan and had assistance with Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes, who stated in October 1941 that “for a long time I have believed that our best entrance into the war would be by way of Japan”. And as early as January 27th, 1941, US Ambassador to Japan in Tokyo, Joseph C. Grew noted in his diary that...”there is a lot of talk around town to the effect that the Japanese, in case of a break with the US, are planning to go all out in a surprise mass attack on Pearl Harbor. Of course, I informed our government.”

Even Admiral Ernest J. King wrote a prescient report on 31 March 1941 that predicted a surprise Japanese dawn air attack on Hawaii as the opening of hostilities. The US had prepared for a Japanese-American conflict since 1906 with “War Plan Orange” which predicted the Philippines as the expected target, attacked by surprise as the Japanese were notorious for. By early 1940 Claire Chennault, the American airman hired by the Chinese, was urging General Hap Arnold and Roosevelt to provide bombers with which to firebomb Japanese cities in retaliation for their attacks on China.

While we cannot excuse Japan’s aggressiveness in Asia in the 1930’s, our government continually provoked the Japanese by freezing assets in the US, closing the Panama Canal to her shipping and progressively reducing exports to Japan until it became an all-out embargo along with Britain’s. The Philippines, by 1941 were reinforced to the point of being the strongest US overseas base with 120,000 troops and the Philippine Army had been called into service by FDR. General MacArthur had 74 medium and heavy bombers along with 175 fighters that included the new B-17’s and P-40E’s with which to attack or defend with. The mobilization of troops and munitions has always been recognized as preparation for attack and we thus assumed this posture to the Japanese.

We then implied military threats to Tokyo if it did not alter its Asian policies and on 26 November 1941, FDR issued an ultimatum that Japan withdraw all military forces from China and Indochina as well as break its treaty with Germany and Italy. The day before the 26 November ultimatum was sent , Secretary of War Stimson wrote in his Diary that “the question was how we should maneuver them (the Japanese) into the position of firing the first shot”. ((edit-shades of Abraham Lincoln and Fort Sumter!!)) The bait offered was our Pacific fleet.

In 1940, Admiral J.O. Richardson, the commander of the Pacific Fleet flew to Washington to protest FDR’s decision to base the fleet in Hawaii instead of its normal berthing on the US west coast. His concern was that Pearl Harbor was vulnerable to attack, was difficult to defend against torpedo planes, lacked fuel supplies and dry docks. Richardson came away from his meeting with FDR “with the impression that, despite his spoken word, the President was fully determined to put the US into the war if Great Britain could hold out until he was reelected.”

Richardson was summarily relieved of command and replaced with Admiral Kimmel, who was still concerned about Pearl Harbor’s vulnerability, but did not challenge FDR.

Also to be considered was the April, 1941 ABD Agreement FDR concluded with the British and Dutch in Indochina that committed US troops to war if the Dutch East Indies were invaded by the Japanese. Add to this the 1940 $25 million loan and Lend-Lease aid provided to China. The Dutch and British were of course eager for US forces to protect their Far Eastern colonial empires from the Japanese while their military was busy in a European war. And FDR’s dilemma was his 1940 election pledge of non-intervention (unless attacked) to the American people and the US Constitution, which allowed only Congress authority to declare war.

One of the most revealing elements in FDR’s beforehand knowledge of Japan’s intentions was our breaking of the Japanese diplomatic and naval operations codes as early as mid-1939. Copies of all deciphered Japanese messages were delivered to Roosevelt and the Secretaries of War, State and Navy, as well as Army Chief of Staff Marshall and Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Harold Stark. With no deciphering machines in Pearl Harbor, although 3 machines went to Britain, the commanders in Pearl Harbor were left completely dependent upon Washington for information. It must be understood that with this deciphered information, our government officials could not have been better informed had they had seats in the Japanese war council.

It is in this bare political light that Pearl Harbor should be examined and judged for historical perspective. Our military should not be a pawn used by presidents to initiate war and this is the basic reason the Founders deliberated extensively on the establishment of a standing army which might be used as such. As nothing happens in a vacuum and the post-World War One US Neutrality Acts were in place to avoid the political machinations that dragged us into that conflict, FDR’s very steady erosion of US neutrality and secret agreements led to that unnecessary loss of brave American servicemen. We hopefully have learned from this.


Poster Comment:

Lots of parallels to our provoking Iran today (freezing assets, embargoes, etc.)

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#1. To: X-15, 4 (#0)

Lots of parallels to our provoking Iran today (freezing assets, embargoes, etc.)

And this in current events:

China’s ADIZ Declaration Aiming for Island Chain Marine Strategy

Until recently, China focused on the Diaoyudao Islands and the oil and gas fields in the East China Sea. However, according to the magazine, it has shifted its focus to the Miyako Strait and the First Island Chain by declaring the ADIZ. If the Chinese navy takes possession of the strait, it can navigate beyond the First Island Chain without any interference from Japan to aim for the Second Island Chain of Saipan, Guam and Indonesia.

Rivero's comment Dec 03, 2013 at whatreallyhappened.com: IF this report is true, the geopolitical implications are both intense and grave for the US government.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-12-10   13:23:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GreyLmist (#1)

We have and are opening olde bases, Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Palua and Darwin.

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#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

We have and are opening olde bases, Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Palua and Darwin.

"Why would China subsidize and finance a trillion-dollar American war in Iraq and accept printed paper money, diluted in value by inflation, as its repayment?" - newsmax.com article

What is your view on that question?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-12-11   13:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GreyLmist (#4)

What is your view on that question?

To survive, China must export manufactured goods to the US and EU.

To manufacture goods China must import nearly all of their energy.

To feed their people, China must import feed grains and food stuffs.

Actually they are NOT subsidizing anyone. They are surviving.

Geo politics determines the destiny of any country.

The US is the worlds largest exporter of food by far, soon we will once again be exporting energy.

Geo politics.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-12-11   14:07:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

soon we will once again be exporting energy.

I read a similar projection among some YouTube comments -- by a foreigner in the Fracking industry, I think:

"Europe may be over but america is now in the early stages of becoming a massive energy producer of shale and natural gas. It may not be a superpower much longer but that don't mean the US won't still be a major economic power of great importance to the world. Same for Canada another major economic energy producer."

"Ah, so you are CEO of a gas or oil corporation, and you'll become richer in the next years. Good for you :)"

"Uh no i'm actually a middle class african man who's in the US on a workers visa though i happen to be here cause of the shale gas boom going on. At one point shale natural gas made up only 1% of americas energy needs. In 4 yrs time it now makes up almost half. In 10 yrs time america will be almost completely energy indepedent and will no longer have to be slaves of the gulf oil monarchs and the petro dollar in order for its currency to be relivent. US is set toe be the largest producer of natural gas on the planet and will be able to base its currency off something the world is gonna be needing more of with each passing day."

Edited for formatting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-12-12   15:48:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: GreyLmist (#8)

Local rag out today has a headline of this...

"Gas outlook: 100 more years"

Penn State U three years ago issued an estimate that we have 75 years worth of gas left.

Shell now says they have enough for 100.

Currently they have 51 rigs running 24/7.

Here in the hills, two counties have more millionaires than Philly and Pittsburgh combined. Shell and the other companies are building power plants and petro chemical factories.

The biggest holdup is NY state and Fed gov, holding up new pipelines, mostly to the northeast.

My local gas has declined 30 per cent in three years.

If you read financial pages, Buffett and his railroad are switching from diesel to LNG at half the cost. They are hauling oil from Dakota in tank cars.

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