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Title: KING JAMES WAS GAY. Here's some excerpts from various sources
Source: EdwardTBabinski.us/history
URL Source: http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/history/king_james_gay.html
Published: Dec 7, 2005
Author: Edward T. Babinski
Post Date: 2005-12-07 14:57:43 by christine
Keywords: excerpts, various, sources
Views: 286
Comments: 34

How many folks know that King James (who commissioned the King James Bible and to whom it was dedicated) loved men and had sex with them? At the age of thirteen James fell madly in love with his male cousin Esme Stuart whom he made Duke of Lennox. James deferred to Esme to the consternation of his ministers. In 1582 James was kidnapped and forced to issue a proclamation against his lover and send him back to France.

Later, James fell in love with a poor young Scotsman named Robert Carr. "The king leans on his [Carr's] arm, pinches his cheeks, smooths his ruffled garment, and when he looks upon Carr, directs his speech to others." (Thomas Howard, Earl of Suffolk, in a letter, 1611)

Carr eventually ended the relationship after which the king expressed his dissatisfaction in a letter to Carr, "I leave out of this reckoning your long creeping back and withdrawing yourself from lying in my chamber, notwithstanding my many hundred times earnest soliciting you to the contrary...Remember that (since I am king) all your being, except your breathing and soul, is from me." (See The Letters of King James I & VI, ed., G. P. V. Akrigg, Univ. of Calif. Press, 1984. Also see Royal Family, Royal Lovers: King James of England and Scotland, David M. Bergeron, Univ. of Missouri Press, 1991) - Skip Church


King James' favorite male lovers were the Earl of Somerset and the Duke of Buckingham. - Ben Edward Akerly, The X-rated Bible


James's sexual orientation was so widely known that Sir Walter Raleigh joked about it in public saying "King Elizabeth" had been succeeded by "Queen James." - Catherine D. Bowen, The Lion and the Throne


King James 1 was a known homosexual who murdered his young lovers and victimized countless heretics and women. His cruelty was justified by his "divine right" of kings. - Otto J. Scott, James the First


Although the title page of The King James Bible boasted that it was "newly translated out of the original tongues," the work was actually a revision of The Bishop's Bible of 1568, which was a revision of The Great Bible of 1539, which was itself based on three previous English translations from the early 1500s. So, the men who produced the King James Bible not only inherited some of the errors made by previous English translators, but invented some of their own.

Desiderius Erasmus was a "Christian humanist" who collected Greek (and Latin) New Testament manuscripts and compared and edited them, verse by verse, selecting what he considered to be the best variant passages, until he had compiled what came to be known as the "textus receptus." Early English translations of the Bible, like those mentioned above, were based on his "textus receptus." Erasmus was also a monk whom some historians believe engaged in homosexual activities.

But without both King James and Erasmus, the most widely touted Bible in Christian history would never have been produced, the KJV (or shall we say, Gay-JV?) Bible. - Skip Church


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#16. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Comment?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-07   20:20:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Zipporah (#16)

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I skimmed this earlier. I'll have to look at it. My guy reaction is it's a bunch of BS. I have to type up some proposals now. I may address it at sometime. Thanks for your interest in my opinion. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   20:27:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Actually, the suggestion that James commissioned the Bible because he wanted it in the vernacular is BS. There were several English translations to choose from when he came to power. The most popular was the Geneva Bible, which was used by the Pilgrims and Puritans, and which did not give (in James' view) sufficient deference to either king or bishops (it reflected a Presbyterian polity). So James commissioned a new, high church translation to promote his prerogatives, and selected commissioners who utilized more archaic (for the day), "fancy" English -- which had the effect of reducing the people's understanding of the Bible's teachings. However, it is my understanding that most (if not all) of the commissioners whose translations became the KJV were Christians.

To read more, I could suggest In the Beginning: The Story of the King James Bible and How It Changes a Nation, A Language, and a Culture -- which is not to suggest that I agree with everything this historian asserts.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2005-12-07   21:53:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: DeaconBenjamin (#23)

The most popular was the Geneva Bible, which was used by the Pilgrims and Puritans, and which did not give (in James' view) sufficient deference to either king or bishops (it reflected a Presbyterian polity).

mmmhmmmm (raised eyebrows)

christine  posted on  2005-12-07   21:59:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#24)

mmmhmmmm (raised eyebrows)

Why are your eyebrows raised, and how high?

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   22:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#27)

and which did not give (in James' view) sufficient deference to either king or bishops

my eyebrows are raised because it appears, as i suspected, that King James had a political motive or two.

christine  posted on  2005-12-08   10:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: christine (#33)

There was at least one other reason for James I to commission his Authorized Translation. The Douai-Reims (Catholic) translation of the New Testament had come out in 1582, and the publication of the translation of the entire Bible was imminent. James wanted there to be an Anglican version to compete with the Catholic version.

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