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Title: Do You Believe That There Is An Underground Patriot Military Who Will Be Willing To Stand With Us Against A Government Institution of Martial Law?
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Published: Dec 7, 2005
Author: christine
Post Date: 2005-12-07 19:52:29 by christine
Keywords: Underground, Institution, Government
Views: 3571
Comments: 68

Will they stand with the American people against the criminal tyrants?

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#14. To: christine (#0)

No.

I think that, given a taste of power that they would be as bad as what we have now.

I don't want guys playing army in the woods. I want public figures, bitching and making a stink and establishing their credentials.

I don't want "Bob" to show up with a bass boat "navy" and ten guys with assault rifles, claiming he's now the official governing authority who picks up where Fedgov left off.

If he does, I'm going to blow his fucking head off..

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   22:10:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No.

I think that, given a taste of power that they would be as bad as what we have now.

I don't want guys playing army in the woods. I want public figures, bitching and making a stink and establishing their credentials.

Now what is the purpose of the 2nd amendment?

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   22:32:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Revolution is one thing..

A standing, prepared, secondary, unknown, completely unvetted, militant authority is another.

Fuck that.

Remember Rome?

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   22:35:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Revolution is one thing..

A standing, prepared, secondary, unknown, completely unvetted, militant authority is another.

Fuck that.

Remember Rome?

Just seeing where you are coming from. I wouldn't want someone proclaiming they are the government either. Restoration of the articles of confederation would be worthy though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   22:37:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm into the Constitution and people who defend it..

The bass boat navy & black pajamma crowd will have a cold reception here..

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   22:42:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm into the Constitution and people who defend it..

The bass boat navy & black pajamma crowd will have a cold reception here..

The constitution is certainly better than what we have now.

I do have a question for you though. What about Patrick Henry and otheres who were anti-constitutionalists. Do you think they could have done a better job?

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   22:47:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Provided it retains original intent, I see very little upside to the lack of a Constitution.

I do, however see much danger without one.

The Constitution defines us as a nation and as a people, it makes us unique.

I have no problem with the document as written.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   22:55:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The anti constitutionalists didn't think that the constitution protected the peoples rights. They thought there was to much power to the federals. I think they had some good points.

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   22:58:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I fail to see how enumerating these truths is harmful..

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   23:01:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I fail to see how enumerating these truths is harmful..

could that be harmful? I know we can allegedly amend the constitution.

there is the strangest language that I can conceive. I mean, when it says that there shall not be more representatives than one for every thirty thousand.

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-07   23:23:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

could that be harmful? I know we can allegedly amend the constitution.

No, no.. Not in theory. Not the BOR. (In application, Yes! In truth? No.)

Witness:

Logic dictates that inalienable rights cannot be amended or otherwise redefined.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-07   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Logic dictates that inalienable rights cannot be amended or otherwise redefined.

You know, that's one perspective that you don't hear much debate about. The bill of rights cannot be repealed. Yet, we are lead to believe that they can be undone at any time the majority can persuade their elected officials to make it happen.

Also, "shall not infringe" seems like an unnecessary phrase to add to the end of any amendment by those men at that time. Wonder why they did? Then again, maybe every one of the first ten should have had that phrase added.

When the smoke settles from the present revolution and folks are standing around looking at each other, why will any of us want to create any government? How will we ever educate the sheeple and bring them to the level of understanding needed? Maybe anarchy and personal responsibility should be tried.

Anarchy, by the way, is not necessarily a bad thing. Most folks will be armed and dangerous and you know what they say, an armed society is a polite society. Maybe electing a sheriff and puttin' a star on his chest will have to wait. "Badges? We don't have no badges. We don't need no stinkin' badges"... we got the guns.

wakeup  posted on  2005-12-08   0:15:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Anarchy, by the way, is not necessarily a bad thing. Most folks will be armed and dangerous and you know what they say, an armed society is a polite society.

Yeah, IMO they'd be real armed.. Real, real armed.

That's not the part that bothers me. The US Military insignia of the New, heavily armed, no Constitution having, Military dictatorship.. that's what bothers me. Tommy Franks mused about this recently, you you recall..

I don't want a "new" government. We're not going to get by with no Government, someone or something is going to move and attempt to fill the void. (The bass boaters will undoubtedly try and fail)

What I want is the government we had, back.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-08   7:34:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#43. To: Jhoffa_ (#39)

What I want is the government we had, back.

Me too but, a the transition will include a period of no government as we debate the type and forms of government to pick from. Most of our neighbors will mistakenly believe that we are suffering from the failure of the Constitution and won't recognize that it was long ago usurped.

Education is the key. Don't wait for the fall to meet your neighbors. When the bad times come, we want them to come to us for the answers. Build that rapport, now. Besides, maybe we can short circuit the need for another staged event.

Any way you look at it, whether now or later, education is the key and truth is our best weapon... for now. Also, buy lots of weapons and ammo, your neighbors will come to you for those, too.

wakeup  posted on  2005-12-08 11:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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