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Title: Preparing For Civil Disobedience? London Mayor Wants Water Cannons In London By The Summer
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014- ... ts-water-cannons-london-summer
Published: Jan 8, 2014
Author: staff
Post Date: 2014-01-08 14:00:05 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 123
Comments: 7

The US may be blanketed in freezing cold, but the UK is already preparing for what should be a hot, dry summer. Either that, or the request of London mayor Boris Johnson to distribute water cannon on the street of the capital may be an indication that at least some major municipal centers are preparing for a jump in civil disobedience and are looking for appropriate, "non-lethal" means to contain it.

SkyNews reports that "the London Mayor says the weapons will be used only in "the most extreme circumstances", however, there are fears the cannon could be deployed to break up small-scale legitimate protests. Mr Johnson says the water cannon are necessary in case there is a repeat of the summer riots of 2011."

So "just in case."

What happened in 2011? "The violent outbreaks and looting in cities across the country led David Cameron to warn that the machines could be used on the British mainland for the first time ever within 24 hours' notice."

The mayor has written a letter to the Home Secretary, Theresa May, who will be the one to make the decision on whether to licence the water cannon. For now the mayor's request has been turned down:

There are plans to buy three water cannon at a cost of £30,000 each from German manufacturers, but Mrs May has turned down a request to pay for a Met Police weapon as a national asset.

The Metropolitan Police also mulled using water cannon during the student riots in London in 2010, however, Mrs May then said in the House of Commons: "I don't think anyone wants to see water cannon being used on the streets of Britain."

In the summer 4,000 Metropolitan Police officers attended training camps in Hampshire in how to use the water cannon so they could support their Northern Ireland counterparts ahead of the G8.

While water cannon has been used on the isles before, most notably in Northern Ireland for crowd control for some time, they have never been used on the British mainland. In his letter the mayor told Mrs May he was consulting the public and key figures on the use of the water cannon and was "broadly convinced" by the idea. He said: "Should the engagement plan reveal serious, as yet unidentified, concerns I will, of course, take these into consideration and share them with you before you make any decision to licence this non-lethal tool."

The opposition, sufficiently vocal, seems mostly for popular theatrics:

"London Assembly member Jenny Jones said: "Would the Mayor have supported the deployment of water cannon against students protesting against their fees going up?"

What happens if the Commissioner wants to deploy water cannon but the Mayor doesn't? Londoners need to know when and in what circumstances the Mayor would agree with the Met using this weapon."

"Allowing water cannon on the streets of London is a step in the wrong direction towards arming our police like a military force, and it goes against our great tradition of an unarmed police service. People have a democratic right to protest and my fear is that once the Mayor allows these weapons onto our streets we will see them being used against people exercising their legal right to protest."

A spokeswoman for the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) said: "Since the riots in August 2011 the police and the independent Inspectorate of Constabulary have argued that water cannon should be available as one of a range of tools to respond to serious public disorder.

"This is supported by the vast majority of the public. MOPAC will now be undertaking a period of public engagement to get the views of Londoners, prior to any final decision to purchase water cannon."

The opposition has been duly noted. And now we await the final decision which will be made in February. We anticipate smooth sailing for the first of many water cannons to take to streets of London.


Poster Comment:

3 water cannons won't stop the riots in a city with that many unemployed. Euro MP elections are in May. UKIP and Nigel Farage should come in first place.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

3 water cannons won't stop the riots in a city with that many unemployed.

A reader response (Jack Burton) to the zerohedge article - he suggests it will be immigrants on the dole ( unemployed by choice?) who will riot when entitlement checks are reduced this summer:

"Under the surface in London and major UK cities simmers social discontent and racism. Now, nobody likes to admit this fact, it is kept under wraps by a major police state and a politically correct government on steroids.

Everyone remembers how fast the last set of London riots broke out. The house that I stay in when I am in greater London, out in Ealing, was close enough to major riots last time. In fact, the local High Street was the scene of looting and some buring. On an ordinary day, a walk from the house to the tube station or high street is a picture of London social peace. The Indian blokes who run the local shop are freindly and always seem to stock whatever the tourist needs. Last time, they were looted, but not burned. Why do that? Well, if I said who did it, where they came from and why, I would be considered a racist at worst, or unsensitive at best.

London over the last few decades has seen a mass influx of immigrants. You see the tower blocks all over the greater London area. Inside these grim places is where the poor natives and many immigrants live. When the riots broke out, many people spilled out of these tower blocks and made for the high streets where they looted and burned.

Social engineering by government is to blame. I am not afraid to say that. The social system is not longer British. If people say I am nuts by that statement, then perhaps they are not as old as me, and do not remember Britain decades ago, when social unrest was working people at odds with government and business over labor policy and unions. Or privatization of electricty, gas, water and the poll tax. These were mainly working people fighting to prevent neo-liberal economics. The difference today is, very few rioters are working people concerned for labor rights in the work place or a poll tax. Just watch youtube videos of the riots, you can judge the nature of these new rioters.

Sadly, open borders ordered by the EU, and Britain's failure to enforce immigration law, allows the flood to continue. And for my pro EU friend who likes to call me an idiot, I know your point of view, anyone supprting the EU in Brussels has a neo-liberal agenda. I don't intend to take the EU for anything but the fascist economic unit and the communist social unit that the Brussels Parliament and leaders represent. If you think I am wrong on Immigration into the UK, then I wonder if your eyes are ever open, or do you live down at Canary Warf somewhere, and never rub shoulders with anyone but the banker class? Just asking."

scrapper2  posted on  2014-01-08   14:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

jump in civil disobedience TNB

Fixed.

Republicans prefer white genocide to paying taxes or paying more for strawberries.
Democrats prefer white genocide to seeing anyone get ahead.
As the party of principle, Libertarians support white genocide because they oppose zoning.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2014-01-08   17:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0)

Farage is false opposition.

Republicans prefer white genocide to paying taxes or paying more for strawberries.
Democrats prefer white genocide to seeing anyone get ahead.
As the party of principle, Libertarians support white genocide because they oppose zoning.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2014-01-08   17:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#0)

Gee, are there enough Irish in Britain to justify the purchase?

Surely they wouldn't use them on the errant children of British royalty, would they?

I mean, I could see them used by Bull Connor in Birmingham, but not by Giuliani against rioting Jews in The Bronx....

In the US and the UK there are some things that just aren't done.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2014-01-08   18:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#3)

There is no opposition in England. He is pro-Jewish. BUT he wants out of the EU. Whites in Britain are doomed if they do not get out of the EU.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-01-09   4:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#5)

BUT he wants out of the EU.

So the French can't escape the muzzies by fleeing to England. The EU is not the problem.

Republicans prefer white genocide to paying taxes or paying more for strawberries.
Democrats prefer white genocide to seeing anyone get ahead.
As the party of principle, Libertarians support white genocide because they oppose zoning.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2014-01-09   10:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#6)

The EU sets immigration policy. White people in England will become extinct if they continue this immigration madness.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-01-09   11:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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