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Title: House Conservatives Want End to Birthright Citizenship
Source: HumanEvents
URL Source: http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10752
Published: Dec 8, 2005
Author: Robert B. Bluey
Post Date: 2005-12-08 22:16:46 by robin
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: Conservatives, Citizenship, Birthright
Views: 140
Comments: 17

House Conservatives Want End to Birthright Citizenship

by Robert B. Bluey
Posted Dec 8, 2005 House conservatives today announced plans to amend a Republican-sponsored immigration reform bill with language calling for the construction of a 2,000-mile fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and a provision that would deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents aren’t citizens.

The legislation, sponsored by House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R.-Wis.), is expected to be voted on by the full House as early as next week. Sensenbrenner has worked closely with the White House to craft the bill (H.R. 4437) -- the reason conservatives cited for the exclusion of key enforcement tools.

Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.) organized Thursday’s press conference featuring about 20 other conservative Republicans. Each complained about a particular area they want to see addressed (see full list below).

Among those issues likely to be the center of debate next week: the lack of language authorizing a physical structure along the border and the exclusion of a so-called “anchor baby” provision undoing birthright citizenship.

The House conservatives said they would attempt to attach two bills previously introduced to Sensenbrenner’s legislation. House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R.-Calif.) is sponsoring the TRUE Enforcement and Border Security Act (H.R. 4313), which authorized the fence construction, and Rep. Nathan Deal (R.-Ga.) introduced the Citizenship Reform Act (H.R. 698), which denies birthright citizenship.

Responding to Sensenbrenner’s bill, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R.-Ariz.) said, “Both the timing and the thin patchwork context of this proposed House bill reinforced my concern that Washington continues to view illegal immigration as a political problem to be managed, rather than an invasion to be stopped.”

Conservatives flatly rejected any compromise with the Senate that would include a guest-worker or amnesty proposal. During a House Judiciary Committee meeting today, Republicans rejected a Democrat-sponsored amendment that would have attached a guest-worker proposal to Sensenbrenner’s bill.

Tancredo, leader of the 92-member House Immigration Reform Caucus, wouldn’t commit to any specific plan of action regarding amendments. His spokesman said no vote count had been done on any of the potential amendments, adding that the first priority is to simply convince GOP leaders to allow votes on amendments to the bill.

The full list of concerns, released by Tancredo’s office, is printed below.

Fixing our Broken Borders:

Enforcing the Law throughout our Country:
Stopping Businesses from Hiring Illegals:
Reducing the Incentive to Come Illegally:
Disentangling Foreign Policy from Immigration:
Restoring the Meaning of Citizenship:
Reforming Legal Immigration:

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#7. To: robin (#0)

House conservatives today announced plans to amend a Republican-sponsored immigration reform bill with ... a provision that would deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents aren’t citizens.

The Constitution cannot be amended by a Federal law; any law which conflicts with the Constitution is null and void. Article 14 clearly states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

This action will require an amendment to the Constitution.

nolu_chan  posted on  2005-12-09   0:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu_chan (#7)

The Constitution cannot be amended by a Federal law; any law which conflicts with the Constitution is null and void. Article 14 clearly states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

This action will require an amendment to the Constitution.

Or reconsideration by the Supreme Court.

This interpretation of the 14th amendment was devised by the same people who gave us "separate but equal."

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2005-12-09   19:08:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: DeaconBenjamin (#13)

Article 14 clearly states,

The 14th amendment is not a real amendment. It was never passed legitimately. You see they had puppet governments in the south at the time. In violation of

Article V. The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

NO STATE, WITHOUT ITS CONSENT, SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF ITS EQUAL SUFFRAGE IN THE SENATE.

There you have it. There is no such thing as the 14th amendment. It would have been the 15th anyway. They threw the real 13th in the trash.

A K A Stone  posted on  2005-12-09   19:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)

There is also the strange status of the state of Ohio which, in 1953, was declared a state retroactive to 1803, making up for a century-and-a-half old oversight.

http://www.szd.com/news/pub_info.php?PID=66

"It's Ohio's Bicentennial- Or is it?"
By: Jeffrey B. Hartranft
Published January 20, 2004 in Winter 2003 (Columbus Bar Briefs)

Ohio's 200th birthday is fast approaching. All over the Buckeye State barns are being painted, ceremonial bells are being cast and the citizenry - at least the portion not busy discussing Ohio State's performance in the New Years Day bowl game - are giddy with anticipation. But if you're planning a party for the Bicentennial, you might want to hold off on those plans for a while - say for another hundred and fifty years. There are also those who say that you should hold off paying your income tax for about that long as well. It all has to do with a little known historical quirk, namely that Congress did not officially recognize Ohio as a state until August 7, 1953.

As is often the case, the problem started in Washington, D.C. In 1802, Congress passed an enabling act authorizing the inhabitants of the Ohio Territory to form a state provided that the new state met certain conditions: possessing a certain population and adopting a state constitution and a republican form of government. On November 1, 1802, a constitutional convention was held which resulted in the adoption of Ohio's first state constitution. This news was reported to Washington, where on January 19, 1803, a special committee of Congress found that Ohio had formed a republican government and otherwise satisfied the requirements of the Enabling Act. Based on the committee's report, on February 19, 1803, Congress, without establishing that Ohio had met the conditions of the 1802 enabling act and without formally admitting Ohio as a state, passed a law providing that the laws of the United States would have force and effect within Ohio and establishing a federal district court.

Congress's oversight went undetected until the eve of Ohio's Sesquicentennial. When it was discovered that Ohio had never officially been admitted to the Union, politicians reacted with their usual poise and restraint. Convening a special session in Chillicothe, Ohio's original capital, the General Assembly drafted a new petition for statehood. Ohio's second petition for statehood was sent by horseback to Congress and on August 7, 1953, President Eisenhower signed a joint resolution recognizing that the conditions set forth in the enabling act had been met and stating:

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the State of Ohio, shall be one, and is hereby declared to be one, of the United States of America, and is admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the original States, in all respects whatever. This joint resolution shall take effect as of March 1, 1803. Approved August 7, 1953.
All this is a matter of public, if not publicized, record.

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