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Title: Nobel Winner Robert Shiller: Whistling Past the Graveyard With Stocks
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URL Source: http://www.moneynews.com/InvestingA ... 41_01262014&promo_code=164CC-1
Published: Jan 23, 2014
Author: John Morgan
Post Date: 2014-01-26 13:02:55 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 63
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Nobel Winner Robert Shiller: Whistling Past the Graveyard With Stocks

Thursday, 23 Jan 2014 07:16 AM

By John Morgan

Nobel prize-winning economist Robert Shiller said he is still investing in the stock market despite warning recently of bubble-like conditions that he viewed as especially worrisome in U.S. stocks.

In an interview with CNBC, the Yale economist demonstrated that even distinguished experts can be uncertain when it comes to what direction equities are headed at a given time.

On the one hand, he said that his proprietary long-term valuation metric for stock markets, which measures earnings based on inflation-adjusted results over 10 years, stands at 25 — high, but still considerably below the record of 46 that it hit in 2000.

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"What's it's predicting, based on a simple analysis, is that the market will outperform the inflation index in real terms, but not great. It's middling right now; it's not super high."

He added, "I'm still investing in the stock market. And I still think people should have part of their portfolio in [stocks]. On the other hand, it's looking a little high."

Shiller noted that after the U.S. markets crash and its aftermath in the 1930s, stocks did not get back to break even, in real dollar terms, until the 1960s.

"I'm not as optimistic based on history. There's a potential for another collapse, definitely."

Last month, Shiller warned in an interview with Germany's Der Spiegel magazine that an investment bubble could be forming in global markets.

"I'm not sounding the alarm yet. But in many countries, the stock price levels are high, and in many real estate markets prices have risen sharply . . . that could end badly," he said then. "I find the boom in the U.S. stock market most concerning."

As we all know, experts aren't always correct. A recent eight-year study of 68 stock-market experts by CXO Advisory tracked 6,582 predictions over several years and found the experts to be much less than perfect, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The study found that the experts' collective accuracy was 47.4 percent — worse than a random coin flip.

The 2014 consensus of the Wall Street experts is for a 7 percent gain in stocks, according to The Journal.

In addition, two prominent stock forecasters who were "remarkably accurate" about 2013's heady stock gains — Abby Joseph Cohen of Goldman Sachs and Bill Miller of Legg Mason — said double-digit gains again this year would not be surprising, The New York Times reported.

In particular, Miller sounded an upbeat note.

"We could easily see gains of more than 20 percent" in stocks, Miller told The Times. "And the market wouldn't be overpriced at that level."

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I'm not concerned with stocks since I have nothing in the market to gamble with. I have enough trouble now to keep my head above water. ;)

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Shiller is quite right with his warning, and even tho you aren't invested directly BTP, a crash will bring this nation to it's knees. The current phony unemployment numbers will fade into hungry men on soup lines. Jobs will disappear and crime will soar. But I'm thinking we on 4um already know this is a distinct possibility.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-01-26   13:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1) (Edited)

Shiller is quite right with his warning, and even tho you aren't invested directly BTP, a crash will bring this nation to it's knees. The current phony unemployment numbers will fade into hungry men on soup lines.

We have plenty of work coming in where I am at right now. There are some new jobs coming in soon, and they are going full bore on others. There is also an ad I saw about work to be had in the area. Things may not be as bad as we have been told. There are still jobs out here. Then, I do have my disability pay from Social Security that goes right into my checking account. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2014-01-26   14:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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