[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

"Absurd Conspiracy": French Media Rushes To Quash Claims Macron, Merz & Starmer Caught Hiding Cocaine On Kiev-Bound Train

Mark Dice: Blsck Fatigue

How to Get Enough Polyphenols for Life Extension

Celgene charges $1,000 for cancer drug that costs 25 cents to make

DERELICTION OF DUTY: Chief Justice John Roberts Admits Its His Job to Rein in the Judicial Insurrectionand Hes Not Doing It

SHOCKING Share of Adults ADMIT Fentanyl Use!

All 6 US B-2 stealth bombers have departed Diego Garcia Airbase in the Indian Ocean and returned to the United States.

Trump official who is taking over DOGE from Elon Musk revealed... and Democrats will be furious

DNC official reveals how Democrats spent $2 billion trying to trick Americans

MSNBC Admits Their Rumor About Kash Patel and Nightclubs Is A Misstatement

I Had No Idea It Could Be So Expensive Not To Build Anything

Spike Proteins Are Being Found in Stroke Victims Brains Up to 17 Months After Being Vaxxed

FIVE childhood vaccines ALL test positive for glyphosate

America is Under Siege – 233 Federal Cases Against Trump – Larry Klayman

Must be 21+ to dine inside Franconia Road McDonald's |

U.S., China Reach Agreement To Lower Tariffs In 90-Day Cool-Off Period

African Woman Protects Herself from Muggers

Cafe Owner Kicked Israelis out. Then This happened

The True COST of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION explained - Edward Dowd

People are just starting to understand the economic impact of illegal migration on an economy.

Freight Fraud, Cargo Theft, Deadly Collisions - Ghost Carriers Are Growing National Security Threat

Hamas To Release American-Israeli Hostage As Goodwill Gesture To Trump

Targeted by the mind control programs of the evil ones (Pedos)

Ex-CIA agent gives his take on some of America's biggest historical events...

Asheville N.C. hit again. May 9th 2025

"No One is Prepared for What’s Happening in EUROPE

"This loss is permanent"

Daniela Cambone: The Great Taking Author Interview

Polar ice rebounds confound alarmist predictions: New studies highlight climates unpredictable dance

NBC: The United States, Europe and Ukraine have made a list of 22 conditions for ending the conflict


Activism
See other Activism Articles

Title: How planespotters turned into the scourge of the CIA
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1664147,00.html
Published: Dec 10, 2005
Author: Gerard Seenan and Giles Tremlett
Post Date: 2005-12-10 13:46:54 by Eoghan
Keywords: planespotters, scourge, turned
Views: 127
Comments: 2

Paul last saw the Gulfstream V about 18 months ago. He comes down to Glasgow airport's planespotters' club most days. He had not seen the plane before so he marked the serial number down in his book. At the time, he did not think there was anything unusual about the Gulfstream being ushered to a stand away from public view, one that could not be seen from the airport terminal or the club's prime view.

But that flight this week was at the centre of a transatlantic row that saw the prime minister being put on the spot on the floor of the House of Commons and the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, forced on the defensive during a visit to Europe. The Gulfstream V has been identified as having been used by the CIA for "extraordinary renditions" - abducting terror suspects and taking them to secret prisons around the world where they may be tortured.

The recording of flights by spotters like Paul from places as far afield as Bournemouth and Karachi has unintentionally played a significant role in helping journalists and human rights groups expose the scale of the CIA's renditions system. But his impact on such international intrigue largely passes Paul by. "It's not the CIA bit that interests us. You don't even know who owns the plane when you take down the serial number," he said, already distracted as something comes in to land through the grey drizzle. "You keep accurate logs, for your own records."

At the door of the shabby end terrace which houses the Glasgow Airport Aviation Enthusiasts Club, Paul is considering how his hobby got him tangled in such a complex web. "We know now that these planes are run by the CIA, but it's not something we set out to know," he said. "I have seen the planes land in daytime and I've seen them land at nighttime. You never see anyone get off them. Most of the time they are just coming in to refuel, but the ones coming in at night you would expect to see people getting off. But you don't - at least, I never have."

Broadly, planespotters fall into three categories: those who like to take serial numbers, those who like to take photographs, and those who indulge in both.

About 40 miles away, on a mound exposed to wind and rain near the freight terminals of Prestwick airport, Stephen, lugging a lens more commonly used by paparazzi lurking in the undergrowth, is setting up a tripod waiting to see what will land today.

He knows it won't be as exciting as July, when the planes of G8 leaders and their secret service entourages landed at Prestwick, but he's hoping for a good day.

"It's my day off, so I've come over to Prestwick, but I'll go to Glasgow and Edinburgh as well," he said. "I do it mostly for myself - it's been a passion since I was child - but I'll post good photographs on websites too."

Stephen clicks the shutter. He doesn't think this one will make http://airliners.net, his favourite planespotting website. But he'll add it to the collection of hundreds of other plane photographs.

Despite the particular eccentricity of planespotting - and the obvious capacity for fun-poking - it is not a pastime limited to Britain. In Spain town planner Josep Manchado is part of a small group who gather with their long lenses and foil-wrapped sandwiches at Majorca's Son Sant Joan airport.

In January last year Mr Manchado saw a Boeing 737 on the airport tarmac. He pressed his camera shutter button while speculating idly that some US millionaire was in town. Then he put the picture of the Boeing (tail fin number N313P) on http://airliners.net, and forgot about it.

Within a few days Mr Manchado starting getting strange calls and emails. They came from the US and from Sweden. "People were asking me questions about the plane. They obviously weren't all planespotters because they were asking questions that people who know about planes don't ask," he said.

Activists and journalists had become interested in the rendition flights. There were also, however, strange calls. "One man wanted to buy up all the photos. He eventually sent me a form in which he asked for everything, including my home address. I didn't give it to him and I never heard from him again," he said.

Months later, he got a call from Germany's ZDF television. A man called Khalid El-Masri had come to them claiming he had been kidnapped by the CIA from Macedonia, bundled onto a plane and taken off to a prison many hours away. Several months later, after allegedly being tortured, he was flown back and dropped in Albania.

One of the planes thought to be involved was one Mr Manchado had photographed. It was believed that it had flown on to Macedonia that very same day. With the photo in their hand, ZDF reporters were able to persuade Skopje flight control to give them a printout of the flight plan. The aircraft had gone from Palma to Skopje and from there to Baghdad and Kabul. Mr El-Masri's story, convincingly told but difficult to believe, fitted.

For those prepared to sift through the endless information complied by planespotters and posted on websites, there are many more clues to the CIA's activities to be found. In Ireland peace campaigners have turned themselves into planespotters.

At Shannon airport Tim Hourigan uses a scanner that allows him to see what air traffic control sees, and he, and other activists, religiously note down the numbers of landing planes. Then, using a combination of Federal Airport Authority Records and planespotting websites, they can track the movements of intelligence planes across the world. "It is a tedious job looking through hundreds of pictures of planes," says Mr Hourigan, who is not a planespotting enthusiast. "But it allows you to confirm and expose the activities of the CIA and our own government."

· The planespotters have been given first names only, as they asked not to be identified.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Eoghan, Uncle Bill (#0)

"It is a tedious job looking through hundreds of pictures of planes," says Mr Hourigan, who is not a planespotting enthusiast. "But it allows you to confirm and expose the activities of the CIA and our own government."

I love grassroot efforts like this. It's more than just typing on the internet, as Uncle Bill puts it.


There is only one way to save the
Constitutional Republic and typing
on the internet ain't it.

Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld

robin  posted on  2005-12-10   13:51:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eoghan (#0)

Nice work citizens of the world.

Lod  posted on  2005-12-10   14:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]