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Title: 'Gospel of Jesus' Wife' Papyrus Is Ancient, Not Fake, Scientists And Scholars Say
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Published: Apr 10, 2014
Author: Karen L. King
Post Date: 2014-04-10 19:24:49 by Ada
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Uhhhhhhhh....
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Jesus said more and and had more written by those who actually knew or were related to him in the texts that were excluded from the NT Cannon. What was chosen was political,giving power to the church at every turn, and what was excluded was both spiritual and compassionate beyond what the average Christian has ever read. Why people act as if the books chosen are all that there was or even all that is correct baffles me. It should be of no surprise that Jesus would marry. Getting married is not a sin or an abomination, it is natural. Why this is even controversial is beyond me. Sheesh, the forced "celibacy" of Catholic priests has turned out to be the abomination! " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
If a man burn, let him marry. Sounds reasonable to me. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
You'd never make it as a Southern Baptist ;)
#2. To: Lod (#1)
#3. To: Ada (#0)
the Catholic Church cites Jesus' celibacy as one reason its priests must not have sex or marry.
#4. To: abraxas (#3)
#5. To: abraxas (#3)
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: X-15 (#5)
Nope.....too may questions, too curious, too willing to point out contradiction, too inclined to point out hypocrisy, and far too non-conformist to ever get a seat on that pew. You'd never make it as a Southern Baptist ;)
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#7. To: Ada (#0)
WHO the heck are Harvard to pronounce anything about religion seeing as they are atheist fag enablers? If it is from 700 it is heretical in origin and thus has NOTHING to do with an historical Christ. Wait until they produce the Manicheans 'gospels' to prove Christ was gay, or liked boys or.....a lot of this 'pop' nonsense is based on the ambiguity of Greek and the fact that one can mistranslate it to suit almost any agenda if the audience is not keen to the game.
-Alex Kurtagic
#8. To: X-15 (#7)
They are proclaiming the papyrus authentic but not necessarily what was written on it. Note that the language was Coptic, not Amamaic or Greek. WHO the heck are Harvard to pronounce anything about religion seeing as they are atheist fag enablers?
#9. To: abraxas (#3)
The Roman Catholic church didn't insist on celibacy until around the 8th century. Had its reasons, I suppose.
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