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Title: House Approves Extension of Patriot Act
Source: My Way News
URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051214/D8EG7E606.html
Published: Dec 14, 2005
Author: JESSE J. HOLLAND
Post Date: 2005-12-14 16:45:15 by timetobuildaboat
Keywords: Extension, Approves, Patriot
Views: 100
Comments: 25

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House easily approved renewing a modified USA Patriot Act on Wednesday, but with the bill facing a Senate filibuster, its Republican leader began talks with the White House on instead extending the current law unchanged for a year.

The House voted 251-174 to approve a House-Senate compromise that would modify and make permanent most of the Patriot Act's 16 expiring provisions. But a group of Republican and Democratic senators is lobbying for more time to add additional safeguards on the law.

President Bush urged against any delay in Senate action. "The Patriot Act is essential to fighting the war on terror and preventing our enemies from striking America again," he said in a statement. "In the war on terror, we cannot afford to be without this law for a single moment."

Facing a threatened filibuster, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., was talking with White House officials about a one-year extension of the current law without any changes, a senior Republican aide said.

(AP) U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales speaks about the renewal of The Patriot Act on Capitol Hill... Full Image

Frist's action indicated new trouble for making most of the 2001 law's provisions permanent, a priority for both the Bush administration and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill before Congress adjourns for the year.

Congress overwhelmingly passed the Patriot Act after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The law expanded the government's surveillance and prosecutorial powers against suspected terrorists, their associates and financiers.

Republicans say the country will be left vulnerable if the Patriot Act is not renewed.

"Renewing the Patriot Act before it expires in December is literally a matter of life and death," said Rep. Ric Keller, R-Fla.

But the bill's opponents say the original Patriot Act was rushed into law, and Congress should take more time now to make sure that the rights of innocent Americans are safeguarded before making 14 of the 16 expiring provisions permanent.

(AP) U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales speaks about the renewal of The Patriot Act on Capitol Hill,... Full Image

They are pushing a temporary extension of the law so they can lobby for additional safeguards in the law. "If we enact the bill as written, a little bit of the liberty tree will have died," said Rep. James McGovern, D-Mass.

While the bill's opponents did not have enough votes in the House, a group of Republican and Democratic senators is banding together in the Senate to block the House-Senate compromise.

Senate vote-counters trying to tally support and opposition for an agreement that would revise the 2001 anti-terror law were unable to precisely gauge its prospects Wednesday.

If the agreement to renew the act fails a crucial test of support, Frist was preparing to bring up his own legislation to extend the current Patriot Act for a year, according to a senior Frist aide who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision had not yet been made.

That would mark a victory for lawmakers of both parties who were lining up against the compromise.

(AP) Senantor Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ranking Democratic member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, during... Full Image

They argued that the House-Senate accord would allow government too much power to investigate people's private transactions. Congress needs more time to add privacy protections, these lawmakers say.

The Bush administration and House leaders say the country is safer with the Patriot Act renewed.

"The consequence of letting the Patriot Act expire will be a boon to terrorists, because they will be able to exploit all of the vulnerabilities of our legal system that allowed them to pull 9/11 off," said Judiciary chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. "And as a result, I don't think that's the responsible thing to do."

About a dozen Republicans and Democrats in the Senate are complaining that the Patriot Act gives government too much power to investigate people's private transactions, including bank, library, medical and computer records. They also say it doesn't place enough limits on the FBI's use of National Security Letters, which compel third parties to produce those documents during terrorism investigations.

"At a time when so much of the world questions our commitment to our own values, I urge my colleagues to show the American people and the world that we will defend our country but we will do so in a way that protect those rights that make it worth defending," said Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass., who called on lawmakers to reject the House-Senate compromise.

(AP) Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., discusses conference committee... Full Image

For the White House and congressional Republicans, renewing the centerpiece of President Bush's war on terror is a top priority with the midterm elections coming up next year.

Bush devoted his Saturday radio address to the subject and Frist added his voice Sunday.

The vast majority of the Patriot Act would remain in force even if the House-Senate agreement to renew the expiring provisions fails. The reauthorization language would extend for four years two of the Patriot Act's most controversial provisions - authorizing roving wiretaps and permitting secret warrants for books, records and other items from businesses, hospitals and organizations such as libraries.

Those provisions would expire in four years unless Congress acted on them again.

Included in the House-Senate accord is a measure to restrict and record the sale of products necessary to cook methamphetamine, including ingredients in many cold medicines. If passed, the act would also give $99 million a year for five years to arrest and prosecute dealers and traffickers, plus $20 million for two years to help children affected by the meth trade.

"Doing so will send a strong signal that Congress is serious about fighting the scourge of meth," said Rep. Mark Kennedy, R-Minn.

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#1. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

"The Patriot Act is essential to fighting the war on terror and preventing our enemies from striking America again,"

Preventing? Can we hold him to that?

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-12-14   16:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

Included in the House-Senate accord is a measure to restrict and record the sale of products necessary to cook methamphetamine, including ingredients in many cold medicines. If passed, the act would also give $99 million a year for five years to arrest and prosecute dealers and traffickers, plus $20 million for two years to help children affected by the meth trade.

Dear God.

We are ruled by the insane.

Lod  posted on  2005-12-14   16:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#2)

NyQuil hates us for our freedom.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-12-14   16:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dakmar (#1)

Preventing? Can we hold him to that?

He's a sweet man, only thinking of our safety. Kinda chokes me up when I think about it.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   16:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: timetobuildaboat (#4)

It's for the children.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-12-14   16:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#2)

We are ruled by the insane.

No...no, misguided maybe but well intentioned and caring people are at the helm.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   16:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dakmar (#5)

It's for the children.

Exactly :P

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   16:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

"Renewing the Patriot Act before it expires in December is literally a matter of life and death," said Rep. Ric Keller, R-Fla.

Yep, everyone in the entire country was actually killed on Aug 22, 2000. It's a very well kept secret.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-12-14   16:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#8)

Yep, everyone in the entire country was actually killed on Aug 22, 2000. It's a very well kept secret.

Which country, lichtenstein?

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   16:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#8)

Check out the description I found for Liechtenstein: (Ironic)

It wouldn't be easy to find another stretch of land that offers such a cultural and natural variety as Liechtenstein. Yet this small country, squeezed between Austria and Switzerland, is better known to international bankers than tourists. The visitors who do go can enjoy the natural beauty and the surprisingly vivid cultural scene of Liechtenstein.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dakmar (#8)

Check out the description I found for Liechtenstein: (Ironic)

It wouldn't be easy to find another stretch of land that offers such a cultural and natural variety as Liechtenstein. Yet this small country, squeezed between Austria and Switzerland, is better known to international bankers than tourists. The visitors who do go can enjoy the natural beauty and the surprisingly vivid cultural scene of Liechtenstein.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Shhhhhhh.....I better type a little softer....I think the site has gone to sleep.....

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

"The Patriot Act is essential to fighting the war on terror and preventing our enemies from striking America again,"

that might be one of the stupidest statements i've ever seen.

Keep the dialogue and discourse free and open. And let the truth fall where it may.

christine  posted on  2005-12-14   17:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: timetobuildaboat (#12)

has everyone gone christmas shopping?

Keep the dialogue and discourse free and open. And let the truth fall where it may.

christine  posted on  2005-12-14   17:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#13)

that might be one of the stupidest statements i've ever seen.

TPB can't let the terrorists change our way of life. So they beat them to it and they (TPB) through unconstitutional legislation have taken away most of our bill of rights.

Hey I can protect you from your neighbor stealing your car......easy, I'll steal it then it will be impossible for your neighbor to steal it. Tis the same silly logic that seems to fall on numb brains when it comes to the common sheep.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#14)

has everyone gone christmas shopping?

Prolly, and I hope they bring back a sailboat or something tasty for me.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

Our caring and benevolent leaders are working hard to protect us...

I feel so much safer, don't you?

And it's also wonderful to know that for this Christmas we don't torture, we just "abuse".

Be loyal to your country always, and to the government only when it deserves it. ~Mark Twain

robin  posted on  2005-12-14   17:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#17)

And it's also wonderful to know that for this Christmas we don't torture, we just "abuse".

Such a jolly group of sociopaths running our government aren't they.

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#1)

May their heads fall through their assholes and break their phucking necks!

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

It is clear, therefore, that it is time to rethink traditional strategy and tactics when it comes to opposing a modern police state. America is quickly moving into a long dark night of police state tyranny, where the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear. Let the coming night be filled with a thousand points of resistance. Like the fog which forms when conditions are right and disappears when they are not, so must the resistance to tyranny be.

Louis Beam

Combining the word "THE" with I.R.S. yields "THEIRS" - any questions? BR

boonie rat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: timetobuildaboat (#18)

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-12-14   17:41:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#20)

That's excellent.

Have you heard of gang stalking?

Check this out (this has been happening to those outspoken on 911 and other issues)

http://www.multistalkervict ims.org/videos.htm

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All, lodwick, Zipporah, wbales, who knows what evil, Soda Pop, Red Jones, christine, robin, wakeup, Diana, YertleTurtle, Elliott Jackalope, TommyTheMadArtist, BTP Holdings (#21)

ping

"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-12-14   17:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Uncle Bill (#20)

ping!

Be loyal to your country always, and to the government only when it deserves it. ~Mark Twain

robin  posted on  2005-12-14   17:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

The disaster-in-waiting is the final compromised version - watch that one!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2005-12-14   18:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

"It was planned"

Uncle Bill  posted on  2005-12-14   21:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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