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Title: Who Started World War II ? by Viktor Suvorov
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Published: May 5, 2014
Author: Viktor Suvorov
Post Date: 2014-05-05 07:48:16 by Itistoolate
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Who Started World War II ? by Viktor Suvorov

Published on Dec 28, 2012

This is Viktor Suvorov's book presentation at the United States Naval Academy on October 7, 2009. In his recent book "The Chief Culprit" the bestselling author Viktor Suvorov probes newly released Soviet documents and reevaluates existing material to analyze Stalin's strategic design to conquer Europe and the reasons behind his controversial support for Nazi Germany.

He argues that Stalin was caught just days before launching his own assault into Central Europe. Thus the Red Army's offensive posture rendered it uniquely vulnerable to German attack.

A former Soviet army intelligence officer (true name Vladimir Rezun), the author explains that Stalin's strategy leading up to World War II grew from Vladimir Lenin's belief that if World War I did not ignite the worldwide Communist revolution, then a second world war would be needed to achieve it. Stalin saw Nazi Germany as the power that would fight and weaken capitalist countries so that Soviet armies could then sweep across Europe. Suvorov reveals how Stalin conspired with German leaders to bypass the Versailles Treaty, which forbade German rearmament, and secretly trained German engineers and officers and provided bases and factories for war. He also calls attention to the 1939 nonaggression pact between the Soviet Union and Germany that allowed Hitler to proceed with his plans to invade Poland, fomenting war in Europe.

Suvorov debunks the theory that Stalin was duped by Hitler and that the Soviet Union was a victim of Nazi aggression. Instead, he makes the case that Stalin neither feared Hitler nor mistakenly trusted him. Suvorov maintains that after Germany occupied Poland, defeated France, and started to prepare for an invasion of Great Britain, Hitler's intelligence services detected the Soviet Union's preparations for a major war against Germany. This detection, he argues, led to Germany's preemptive war plan and the launch of an invasion of the USSR. Stalin emerges from the pages of this book as a genius consumed by the vision of a worldwide Communist revolution at any cost--a leader who wooed Hitler and Germany in his own effort to conquer the world. In contradicting traditional theories about Soviet planning, the book is certain to provoke debate among historians throughout the world.

About the Author

VIKTOR SUVOROV is the author of eighteen books that have been translated into more than twenty languages, including "Inside the Aquarium: The Making of a Top Soviet Spy" and "Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?" A Soviet army officer who served in military intelligence, he defected in 1978 to the United Kingdom, where he worked as an intelligence analyst and lecturer. He lives in England.


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Stalin, ie COMMUNISM has conquered Europe in the form of The European Union. COMMUNISM ie Obama is now taking place in the US thanks to Rothschild's puppet.

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#1. To: Itistoolate, 4 (#0)

I haven't watched your vid yet, but I will. Here's my take on the title question.

I’d pin the tail on Churchill with his “guarantee” to Poland in 1939. Hitler’s intention to annex the former German city of Danzig was well known prior to Churchill’s meddling. When Hitler made his move on Danzig, Churchill declared war on Germany. Had Hitler been ignored, and allowed to annex Danzig, Germany and the Soviet Union would most likely have clashed, with the Germans eventually erasing communism off the face of the earth. So, as to the question, “who started WWII” look to the internationalists who aligned as allies against Germany.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-05-05   9:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

"Inside the Aquarium: The Making of a Top Soviet Spy"

I read that a long time ago. Good book.

Republicans prefer white genocide to paying taxes or paying more for strawberries.
Democrats prefer white genocide to seeing anyone get ahead.
As the party of principle, Libertarians support white genocide because they oppose zoning.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2014-05-05   18:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Hitler’s intention to annex the former German city of Danzig was well known

You can safely say that while Hitler supported the consolidation of Germans within the Reich wherever feasible, he displayed no particular interest in annexing Danzig as a remnant of West Prussia to a Greater Germany just as he wisely refrained from any claim to the German speaking provinces annexed by France under the terms of Versailles. He was, as a southerner, far more interested in the Anschluss with the leftovers of the former Hapsburg Empire than he was with this troublesome eastern outpost.

In fact Hitler's people tried to negotiate a solution acceptable to the Poles through the offices of the Brits right up to the initiation of hostilities. There were at least a half dozen German proposals on the table at that time. The Poles had made it tough on Hitler, refusing to accept payments from foreign exchange poor Germany in Reichmarks for rail and infrastructure links to Danzig. (Payments had to made to Poland in zlotys per treaty.) Germany was unable to fulfill this obligation. In addition, the Poles were making it tough in Poland on anyone who wasn't Polish. Their campaign of Polonization was driving thousands of not only German refugees, but anyone of a half dozen other ethnic groups out of Poland, including Jews, to the west. In addition, wildcat Polish militias were attacking border areas and towns on the German frontier. Hitler was beset with circumstances in which he was facing an extreme loss of face if he didn't act.

Had Hitler been ignored, and allowed to annex Danzig, Germany and the Soviet Union would most likely have clashed,

Well, he did annex Danzig and a lot more besides, didn't he? And Stalin was happy to divide the spoils with him. Stalin hoped that this would be the beginning of a war in which the Western powers would exhaust themselves and that he could then walk to the Channel, as our friend Cyni never tires of reminding us. Hitler needed oil and he needed to forestall Stalin's inevitable push to the west. Hence, his fateful turn to the east.

The rest is stinkin' history.

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randge  posted on  2014-05-06   12:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge, 4 (#3)

Thanks for the excellent addition, randge.

In fact Hitler's people tried to negotiate a solution acceptable to the Poles, through the offices of the Brits right up to the initiation of hostilities.

The underlined is why I put Churchill (and FDR, as he surely had Winston's back) squarely in the cross hairs of the question, "Who started WWII." The Poles would have been far more open to compromise/discussion had it not been for the "guarantee" provided to them by Mother England. It wasn't Britain's business, it certainly wasn't our business and IMO WWII marked the end of the British Empire. Post WWII it became a hollow shell of a nation, wedded to free trade and ever increasing socialism.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-05-06   12:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

had it not been for the "guarantee" provided to them by Mother England

Yessir, and it was a last minute secret guarantee which Hitler was unaware of. This was Churchill's party's fateful trap.

It allowed the Poles to continue their provocations and insulated them from the necessity to negotiate.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2014-05-06   13:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#3)

randge...

It is in the history books that the head of the German General Staff, General von Seeckt, within 90 days of the end of WWI, was drawing up the plans for the next invasion of France, via the Ardennes Forest. The very plans that Hitler was to use twenty years later, with only minor alterations.

Also in 1919, the US Congress authorized the building of the Milinta tunnel on Corregidor. The last holdout for MacArthur, 22 years later.

That same year, our government/military knew the Japanese would turn South and we would lose everything in the central and western Pacific,

ALL OF THE MEN WOULD BE WRITTEN OFF, THERE WOULD BE NO RELIEF EFFORT.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-06   14:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker, randge (#3)

ping

Deasy  posted on  2014-05-06   14:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#6)

Hell, Cyni, every general staff has plans for kickin' everybody else's butt outside of Vanuatu.

At the time to which you refer, we had plans for invading Canada and Britain. ; )

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2014-05-06   14:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#8)

My intent was to indicate that wars are NOT spontaneous, rather years in the making.

As we look around now, we see three world powers bloviating, huffing and puffing, move men here and there, rattle sabres, accuse others of dastardly deeds, and all the while the plans are on their desks, FOR WWIII.

Spontaneous combustion happens without human ignition, war does not.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-06   14:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

By the by, it's on the books that the Polish general staff was planning their campaign against Germany just prior to getting clobbered in 1939. They figured that between them, the British and the French, they could bring Germany to heel. On paper they had the numbers.

As far as the French go, they bore keeping and eye on. They invaded Germany first after all. Heh heh. ;)

The French invasion of Germany-1939

The French invasion: September 19th to 28th 1939 Edit

France's initial attacks into western Germany met surprisingly with next to no resistance. The three divisions defending Freiburg were soon forced to retreat from the province under intense French pressure. France entered the city on September 22nd, but did not press home their attack for a crucial three days. On September 24th, Poland, battered and weak from the German and Soviet invasion, surrendered. This allowed the Germans to bring thousands of troops from the east to the west. Despite this on September 28th, French troops entered Friedrichshafen and began attacking east towards Munich.

The German response: September 23rd to October 2nd 1939 Edit

With a large portion of its garrison attacking Munich, the defences of the Maginot Line were severely compromised. Major General Rommel, seeing this weakness, launched an attack along with several panzer divisions south from Stuggart, capturing Strasbourg on September 30th. At this point, several French commanders began to request permission to withdraw back towards Mulhouse. The French government quickly overruled them and instead ordered them to continue their offensive against Munich.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2014-05-06   14:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#8)

One word FDR taught me was...DASTARDLY...

I can still hear his speech to Congress and using that word.I had to look it up.

Other than that, FDR never taught me anything positive.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-06   14:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#10)

My favorite story of WWII and the cowardly frogs was this.

Rommel on his dash to the the Channel had tanks well in the lead with no attached infantry.

Several hundred frogs surrendered to a column of German tanks. The tank commander told them to throw their weapons in the ditch, form a column of two, raise their hands and start marching eastward until they could find German infantry. The cowardly Frenchies did just that. The Germans were laughing their rears off. watching the frogs march away, hands in the air, and NO GUARDS. Olde joke...French recruits are issued white hankies, for close up surrender, large white towels for long distance surrender.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-06   15:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

You're getting more antagonistic as time goes by. I recommend a two week vacation to southern France for you this spring. The food is delicious, the women are soft and beautiful, and there are regular rituals under the Arc du Triomphe that would make you smile.

I'm just saying there's good in all countries, and the French culture includes some some very decent traditions.

Deasy  posted on  2014-05-06   15:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy (#13)

Dear Deasy,

It is an exercise in futility to attempt to disabuse an olde sod'ger of his cherished prejudices. I have found such to be true in numerous conversations with US, German, British, Russian ex-servicemen.

I once tried to convince a pretty well educated guy, once a first lieutenant in the Russian Arm, that the US Marines were part of the Department of the Navy utilizing any number of arguments and examples from my experience. Nope. Nothing doing. Nothing could shake him.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2014-05-06   17:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge, Cynicom (#14)

The Frogs take the blame for Winston's hubris. Besides, the Allies were using Paris as proof that Hitler wanted to take over the whole world. A few surrendering just shows that they didn't see any reason to repeat the stupidity of WWI, when they were "brave," and they did "stand up to the Huns" by the millions cut down by machine guns, artillery, and gas.

Cyni will be Cyni, though. And let's remember that Donald Rumsfeld was appealing to Cynicom's sensibilities when he referred to the French as being "Olde Europe." That doesn't make Rumsfeld right and Cynicom wrong.

Deasy  posted on  2014-05-07   3:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge, Deasy (#14)

It is an exercise in futility to attempt to disabuse an olde sod'ger of his cherished prejudices

Correct spelling is...SOJER...

Opening day, I was told that I was a poor sojer, as in worthless and helpless, I wore it as a badge of honor. I fought them every day, lost every fight.

Lost a lot of friends, cried often, drank endlessly, survived in spite of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-07   3:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deasy (#13)

I'm just saying there's good in all countries, and the French culture includes some some very decent traditions.

Ha, likely story.

I am mostly French, originals named Beaulieu, French Catholics that snuck in here when the Injuns were not watching. Motley lot. I recently passed along my Great Grandmothers Rosary dated from the mid 1800s. I have no Grand children but found a distant cuzin in MA that is still Catholic and has heirs.

Cynicom  posted on  2014-05-07   3:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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