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Title: Don't you just love it?
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Published: May 23, 2014
Author: mee
Post Date: 2014-05-23 10:31:11 by Itistoolate
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As we keep posting even worse stories about what is happening hour after hour, week after week, month after month, year after year, President after President, it just keeps getting worser and worser. Why do we keep on doing it? It only gets worse.
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#22. To: Deasy (#21)
Good question. That had not crossed my mind. I do know that Americans no longer have a voice. The sheep, the elite and the criminals own and operate this country.
Sure, selfish you. Just wait til they put a bounty on turtles.
Still talking smack about Turtle? My pug does enjoy delicious raw brains.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Revolution is not the answer. But "disappearing" the Board of Governors of the federal reserve would certainly get the attention of both their co-conspirators and the boot lickers directly under them. Judging by all the videos you've posted of your better half in action, that certainly goes a long way towards disproving the theory that "you are what you eat". Not a bad place to start but it should appear to have come from "our" very own congress. Perhaps it is possible to kill two birds with one stone. "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Another one: is this "rebuilt" America isolationist or does it concern itself with geopolitical power vacuums in anyway?
Power vacuums in total... The Monroe Doctrine was the first assertion by this emerging country, for European powers to stay out of the Americas. The second fact was the Civil War which ended in this country being one power, not two. Isolationism then as now would not have been in our interest. There was a power vacuum in the Americas and we filled it. The Europeans stayed away. In the beginning it was enforced by the British because it kept Russia and other countries away from the Americas. With isolationism, our Northwest States might well be Russian. Sum total is this, isolationism is the best posture of all, except it does not work. It cannot work because THERE IS ALWAYS A BULLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WANTS TO BE BOSS.
How different is this "new America" you're proposing should your faction win CW2? Internationally things appear to be the same to me if you were king. I'm of the persuasion that domestic economic policy and foreign policy are linked: James Monroe was a central banker. Under the influence of a colleague of Schact's no doubt you accept central banking as a structural kingpin of the empire. How do you plan to reform the current central bank? How would you prevent the abuse of currency valuation? If the "wars against vacuums" didn't go well, you'd have to institute inflation to print money to pay back investors, or decree that they simply wait indefinitely for an honest return. More importantly, Monroe had articulated a boundary on America's expansion, something ignored in the Spanish-American war with our possession of the Philippines, well beyond the western hemisphere. Imperialists brought us back to central banking and into WWI on the continent of Europe. Military Drafts for the Civil War, which neither united us, nor clarified our outward vision, set the standard for WWI, WWII and Korea. Especially after the middle of those conflicts, the American grunts in those three wars were forced to fight, as you know. The Sedition Act of 1918 and the Espionage Act of 1917 were draconian measures hardly congruent with our constitution, but the battle against vacuums demanded their enforcement. It's clear to me that the wars against vacuums we've been fighting coincide all too well with Zionist aims. How would you prevent that in the future? How would you prevent any of America's minorities from conspiring to wield bureaucratic power to achieve their ethnically defined goals once your empire had "righted itself?" How would you keep the absolute power of the American empire from corrupting itself absolutely? Isn't this indeed what has happened once already?
A correction is needed here re your thinking. The Monroe Doctrine was written by John Quincy Adams, not Monroe, it was written at the behest of, and in self interest of Great Britain and the United States. It was a mutual self interest for differing reasons. For Britain it was money/trade, for the US it was to stop foreign interests from invading small countries and enforcing their will on our neighbors. Recall, we had just beaten Britain at the same game in the war of 1812?? The British realized it was now time to play a different game, stop using force and use mutual interests in a more civilized way. Britain proposed this country shut out all European powers, including themselves, in return they would enforce the Doctrine on the high seas and we would field an army on land. We filled a power vacuum in the Americas, in conjunction with Britain. France, Spain, Portugal and others were furious because they wanted enforced colonies in Latin and South America. Britain suggested the Doctrine, Adams wrote it, Monroe being President had to put his name on it. The people from Texas to Cape Horn loved it. THEY ALL HAD A BIG BROTHER PROTECTOR. Indeed, we have interfered in most of their private affairs, however, they are all still there. We have been the policeman in the Americas since that time. For the good of the human race, power vacuums cannot exist, someone has to be in charge.
How would your empire be different from what we have? I hope you'll try to answer those questions.
From what we now have world wide, there would be no difference, regardless of whom was in charge. Man is inherently greedy and self serving, if not plain evil. The best the world can hope for is for the power holders to be as benevolent as possible. Britain helped us in self interest, in WWII we returned the favor or they would now be a non country. Look at the opposite side of the world. Again, study the battle of the Coral Sea. Half way around the world, Coral Sea was the Japanese high water mark on their way to Australia. The Australians had already written off the northern half of Australia as being non defensible, let the Japanese have it. The Aussies fled south by the thousands. The US won at Coral Sea, the Australians were saved, the tide turned against Japan. Just suppose we had stayed home? Now look ahead, using history and geo/politics, tell me what you see in store for the Far East??????
Then you're not in favor of CW2, right?
Wrong... It is past due. We are a monster on the world stage, that does not MEAN that we could not be a better monster. Eliminate the government over night. Install all nice guys, we would still be the world policeman.
So how do we keep America's ethnic minorities from trying to sneak into this new government of nice guys and using its power to assist in their own projects? How do you finance "police action against vacuums" without deflating the value of American savings? How do you ensure a succession of power between only nice guys? How do you keep what's happened from happening all over again?
Apartheid. Who's going to be CW2's Lafayette?
#23. To: Turtle (#14)
Thank God I'm in my hobbit hole in the Ozarks. All I need is a library and a garden. And alcohol, hookers and gambling.
#24. To: Cynicom (#23)
#25. To: Lorie Meacham, Itistoolate (#9)
I'm not really anxious to have a revolution.
#26. To: Turtle (#24)
My pug does enjoy delicious raw brains
#27. To: Buzzard (#25)
"disappearing" the Board of Governors of the federal reserve would certainly get the attention of both their co-conspirators and the boot lickers directly under them.
#28. To: Cynicom (#22)
Good question.
#29. To: Deasy (#28)
Another one: is this "rebuilt" America isolationist or does it concern itself with geopolitical power vacuums in anyway?
#30. To: Cynicom, 4 (#29)
Sum total is this, isolationism is the best posture of all, except it does not work.
The Monroe Doctrine was the first assertion by this emerging country, for European powers to stay out of the Americas.
Not quite true: existing colonies would be permitted. In fact, the Monroe Doctrine is considered isolationist because it decreed that America would not interfere in any European wars, nor would it perturb existing European colonization. It simply reserved future colonization in the western hemisphere for American expansion within those limits. With isolationism, our Northwest States might well be Russian.
First, we bought Alaska from Russia. We did not seize it. Second, its possession by Russia was accounted for in the Monroe Doctrine in that no existing colonies were to be disturbed. Finally, Russia needed the money I suspect because of the Crimean war's effects on its own finances.
#31. To: Deasy (#30)
I'm of the persuasion that domestic economic policy and foreign policy are linked: James Monroe was a central banker.
#32. To: Cynicom (#31)
#33. To: Deasy (#32)
#34. To: Cynicom (#33)
From what we now have world wide, there would be no difference, regardless of whom was in charge.
#35. To: Deasy (#34)
Then you're not in favor of CW2, right?
#36. To: Cynicom (#35)
#37. To: Deasy (#36)
So how do we keep America's ethnic minorities from trying to sneak into this new government of nice guys and using its power to assist in their own projects?
-Alex Kurtagic
#38. To: Deasy (#36)
You do not. Society is always evolving, always in flux. The parameters in geo/politics is always under going change. The geography never changes. The demography and topography are currently the driving forces. Billions of people to feed, limited food and resources, coupled with the evil of the few, will bring us to WWIII. How do you keep what's happened from happening all over again?
#39. To: Deasy (#36)
Deasy..This on AP today. Geo/politics... "WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland's former president and Nobel Peace laureate, Lech Walesa, said Friday he plans to urge President Barack Obama to take a more active world leadership role when he visits Poland in June. Speaking to The Associated Press, Walesa said "the world is disorganized and the superpower is not taking the lead. I am displeased." The former Solidarity leader said that when he meets Obama in Warsaw, he wants to tell him that the U.S. should inspire and encourage the world into positive action. "The point is not in having the States fix problems for us or fight somewhere, no," Walesa said. "The States should organize us, encourage us and offer programs, while we, the world, should do the rest. This kind of leadership is needed." "I will say: Either you want to be a superpower and guide us, or you should give the superpower to Poland and we will know what to do with it. Amen," said Walesa, who is known for sometimes abrasive comments. Obama is traveling to Poland next month to mark 25 years since the country emerged from communism. The two failed to meet on Obama's previous visit to Warsaw in 2011. Walesa led Poland's peaceful transition to democracy in the 1980s. The June 4, 1989 elections gave Solidarity a share in the power and paved the way for the ouster of communists."
#40. To: Cynicom, Deasy, 4 (#39)
I hope this isn't a Polish joke. Has Walesa been living in a cave for the past 6-years? He's going to urge our drug addled, foreign interloper to be more active on the world stage? Lech would be better off extending an olive branch to Putin than our puppet. Poland's former president and Nobel Peace laureate, Lech Walesa, said Friday he plans to urge President Barack Obama to take a more active world leadership role when he visits Poland in June.
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
They should just have a SUPER-POWER of the month, for a change.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#42. To: Jethro Tull, Deasy (#40)
I suspect he was being polite. He could have said, "stop being an after the fact wussie, get out front and lead". take a more active world leadership role when he visits Poland in June.
#43. To: Lod (#41)
We have been it since 1945 but that is passing away. The questions are, when and how will we go down. They should just have a SUPER-POWER of the month, for a change.
#44. To: Cynicom (#43)
Soon, and without a bang, I hope.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#45. To: Lod (#44)
Sir Lod... I see one terrible, massive land war in Asia, starting as a conventional war, ending world destruction. In Asia, demography, over 4 billion people, will dictate when and how.
#46. To: Cynicom (#45)
If true, the jew-bankers will certainly involve US.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#47. To: Lod (#46)
tThat is why this country is moving the majority of its offensive strike power to the western Pacific. From the Aleutians to Australia. Whether it be Russia or China or both, we are ensconced right in their back yard. The 25,000 American grunts in Korea are a tempting bait. China has to be very careful, they can win any land war, but not if we refuse to engage in such. Little Japan swam all the way to Australia, monster China can walk. Millions more mouths to feed each year, the pressure is building. If true, the jew-bankers will certainly involve US.
#48. To: X-15, Cynicom (#37) (Edited)
Cynicom talks about Australia and England. How were they our problem, again? Pro-war types tried to tell us that "mother England" was under attack. The same people installed open immigration in the UK after the war. Australia was the British Empire's doing, not ours. We need an American ethnicity, and an isolationism deep enough to ignore Australia and the UK "next time." Actually, "next time" began the on V-E day. The former colonial powers of Europe were forced by their own anti-fascist rhetoric to open up to massive immigration from their former colonies. Again, this was their own undoing. Of course we led the Nuremberg trials. We imposed hate-speech laws incompatible with our own first amendment in Marshall Plan Europe. Fast forward to the future: I don't think our problems would be solved by a "nice guy"-led CW2 just to turn around and declare that Americans were better situated to rule the world than the other mean guys. Let's imagine an Asia controlled by Russia and China. So what? Not all energy reserves are there. Not all precious metals are there. Even Cynicom admits that the Chinese have to lure us onto the continent to fight. Every peso the Chinese spend on their military is a peso they can't spend on improving their standard of living. The idea of fighting for others' freedom has no moral appeal to me whatsoever. No American grunts should die for anyone's freedom but our own. Also, the mass deployment of potent incendiaries over huge civilian population centers proved that we were worse than our enemies. The communists were the real enemy, but we crushed their best opposition. If China proves to be a threat to us now, it will be our own fault. If we can't learn to keep our might to ourselves, we will continue to collapse as we have been, one steady implosion after another. It already may be too late to come home because after what was done to us in the name of being the world's "nice guys" over the past 100 years has utterly wiped out any cultural semblance of the America our forefathers built. So how do we keep America's ethnic minorities from trying to sneak into this new government of nice guys and using its power to assist in their own projects?
Apartheid.
#49. To: Deasy (#48)
Also, the mass deployment of potent incendiaries over huge civilian population centers proved that we were worse than our enemies. The communists were the real enemy, but we crushed their best opposition. If China proves to be a threat to us now, it will be our own fault. Deasy, once again, discussion has proven fruitless. Reality- reality - the state of the world as it really is rather than as you might want it to be; "businessmen have to face harsh realities" actuality - the state of actually existing objectively; "a hope that progressed from possibility to actuality" historicalness - the state of having in fact existed in the past... Cyni... The idea of fighting for others' freedom has no moral appeal to me whatsoever. No American grunts should die for anyone's freedom but our own.
#50. To: Cynicom (#49)
You're skirting the question: what is intolerable in a possible Chinese empire on the opposite side of the world from us? In other words, can you face the reality of a multipolar world? I think it's inevitable. That's reality.
#51. To: Deasy (#50)
When that word..you...creeps in, the discussion becomes personal and with a tenor I dislike. It is used in an accusatory sense, having nothing to do with the subject discussion. You're skirting the question: what is intolerable in a possible Chinese empire on the opposite side of the world from us? In other words, can you face the reality of a multipolar world? I think it's inevitable. That's reality.
#52. To: Cynicom (#51)
Reality... painful :-)
#53. To: Deasy (#52)
Reality is real. Incivility and impoliteness is painful. Reality... painful :-)
#54. To: Cynicom (#53)
I had no intention of being disrespectful or impolite. I'm grateful for every exchange I have with you.
#55. To: Deasy (#54)
At nine years olde, this is Gods pure innocence, intended for all man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLysRf5MadvtMy4wfxHKxma5fLwp4O9h_L&v=r8KrpwqxE4g
#56. To: Cynicom, Turtle (#55)
Arias are a bit high brow for my taste. I'd rather see little girls collecting flowers or chasing butterflies. But as long as they're protected from the will of Turtle, their innocence should remain safe. this is Gods pure innocence, intended for all man
#57. To: Deasy, Cynicom (#48)
Take South Africa: we tolerated their apartheid as long as they were fighting Communist Soviets and their Cuban puppets in sub-Saharan Africa. As soon as that threat was defeated we, along with their European ancestors, abandoned them to the communist threat from within (Joe Slovo, Nelson Mandela, et al). That was one of the most shameful episodes in our foreign policy history post- WWII, along with our half-hearted involvement in Viet Nam that let that situation limp along for far too long. Same for the Korean "police action". Hey, I'm seeing a pattern of U.S. defeat in the face of regional skirmishes with entrenched communists.... We'd better look after our own interests before we take on the Communist Chinkernese, we can't even repel an invasion of mentally retarded mexicons.
-Alex Kurtagic
#58. To: Buzzard (#56)
Amira is living proof at age nine, that man is born without guile. He acquires it willingly, all on his own.
#59. To: X-15 (#57)
As much as we would like, the rest of the world will not go away. Evil men appear, with a lust for power and conquest
#60. To: Buzzard, Cynicom (#56)
It will be a much better world when Turtle rules. the will of Turtle,
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#61. To: X-15 (#57)
What shallow news coverage he got at the end of his life. We need some reconciliation... of the facts surrounding the Marxist activism involved with Sub-Sahara Africa. ...Nelson Mandela...
#62. To: Turtle (#60)
One time I would agree.
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