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Title: Agents' visit chills UMass Dartmouth senior (requested loan of Mao's "The Little Red Book")
Source: South Coast Today
URL Source: http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm
Published: Dec 17, 2005
Author: AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff wr
Post Date: 2005-12-17 18:03:00 by Zipporah
Keywords: (requested, Dartmouth, Agents
Views: 158
Comments: 15

NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."

Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program.

The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said.

The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.

"I tell my students to go to the direct source, and so he asked for the official Peking version of the book," Professor Pontbriand said. "Apparently, the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring inter-library loans, because that's what triggered the visit, as I understand it."

Although The Standard-Times knows the name of the student, he is not coming forward because he fears repercussions should his name become public. He has not spoken to The Standard-Times.

The professors had been asked to comment on a report that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to spy on as many as 500 people at any given time since 2002 in this country.

The eavesdropping was apparently done without warrants. The Little Red Book, is a collection of quotations and speech excerpts from Chinese leader Mao Tse-Tung.

In the 1950s and '60s, during the Cultural Revolution in China, it was required reading. Although there are abridged versions available, the student asked for a version translated directly from the original book.

The student told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the Homeland Security agents told him the book was on a "watch list." They brought the book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors said. Dr. Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that some of his calls are monitored.

"My instinct is that there is a lot more monitoring than we think," he said. Dr. Williams said he had been planning to offer a course on terrorism next semester, but is reconsidering, because it might put his students at risk. "I shudder to think of all the students I've had monitoring al-Qaeda Web sites, what the government must think of that," he said. "Mao Tse-Tung is completely harmless."

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

"Mao Tse-Tung is completely harmless."

Uh - as are most folks enjoying a dirt nap.

Lod  posted on  2005-12-17   18:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

  Socialism, facism, communism, zionism, capitalism, nazism, islamism, its roots are the same and is funded from the same source.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2005-12-17   18:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Kamala (#2)

Well Bush Sr. said it was a new world order.. we shouldve remembered that nothing is new under the sun..

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-17   18:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lodwick (#1)

Uh - as are most folks enjoying a dirt nap.

Right.. this is such nonsense.. anyone who may be interested in studying history are now subject to suspicion? WTF?

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-17   18:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

What the hell? I thought Mao was the "good" commie..

(As opposed to Castro, who is a "bad" commie because he doesn't have a billion minions to make cheap goods for Dubya's corprate pals)

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” President Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-12-17   19:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jhoffa_ (#5)

You need a score card now to figure this out.. our enemies are friends and our friends enemies.. I say just dont check out any books.. better yet stay away from the library.. geez.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-17   19:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#0)

The student told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the Homeland Security agents told him the book was on a "watch list."

Does Fatherland Security publish the watch list or do they play their little game of hide and seek?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-12-18   12:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

Does Fatherland Security publish the watch list or do they play their little game of hide and seek?

Apparently.. this rings so much of the USSR.. or Red China..rather ironic isnt it?

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-18   12:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#8)

He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said.

Two agents to his home? Fatherland Security has entirely too much money to waste to justify its existence for future budget years.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-12-18   12:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

Two agents to his home? Fatherland Security has entirely too much money to waste to justify its existence for future budget years.

Over a fricken library book? Talk about paranoia.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-18   12:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#0)

The eavesdropping was apparently done without warrants.

So this is an example of the highly dangerous activities that Bush's illegal eavesdropping program has been used to detect.

aristeides  posted on  2005-12-18   12:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#10)

And a library book that has no possible connection to terrorism.

aristeides  posted on  2005-12-18   12:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: aristeides (#12)

So this is an example of the highly dangerous activities that Bush's illegal eavesdropping program has been used to detect.

And a library book that has no possible connection to terrorism.

Is this not the most idiotic waste of time and money.. and attack on Constitutional civil liberties.. it boggles the mind really.. Remember the bin Laden book that someone had written in? It's frightening really.. so much like the soviets and the 3rd Reich.. burning of books.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-18   13:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#0)

Well, if the kid is trying to learn about Communism, fascism, and totalitarianism, he's in the right place at the right time. Bush's New American Century is a great place to experience it up-close and personal, as he found out.

There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed... because you know things can't get any worse. The Freshman (1990)

Esso  posted on  2005-12-18   13:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#14)

Well, if the kid is trying to learn about Communism, fascism, and totalitarianism, he's in the right place at the right time. Bush's New American Century is a great place to experience it up-close and personal, as he found out.

LOL!! Good point!.. Just try convincing some who are under the false belief that Bush and apologists are conservatives.. A marxist by any other name is still a marxist.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-12-18   13:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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