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Title: Go Bowe!
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URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/06/karen-kwiatkowski/go-bowe/
Published: Jun 4, 2014
Author: Karen Kwiatkowski
Post Date: 2014-06-04 08:42:27 by Ada
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Views: 931
Comments: 74

The Gitmo prisoner swap that sent Bowe Bergdahl into the loving arms of the psych ward at Landstuhl Military Hospital near Ramstein AB, Germany is in the news.

The swap is viewed by the Republican Party establishment, in an election year, as an Obama media diversion from delicious and well-deserved dereliction of duty charges against the Veterans Administration.

Republicans are also unhappy, and neoconservatives particularly so, because it signals the public end of the end in Afghanistan — an endless play-war for the United States government that all but evaporated from the mind of the American public several years ago. In an age of economic contraction, average Americans see no reason to pay for Afghanistan any longer, absent some sign of benefit, some visible victory. Neocons may insist that absence of victory in not evidence of the absence of victory, but I think by now, even Don Rumsfeld gets the picture. Just as for the Soviets, Afghanistan has been a USG-directed waste of trillions of dollars, millions of Afghan lives, and hundreds of thousands of American lives and families damaged or ruined by a soldier’s service in uniform.

Some neoconservative hawks like fellow POW Lt John McCain, who ended his active duty career by being shot down while bombing rice paddies in another foreign country, in another unpopular war, after wrecking two fighter planes and playing a role in the deadly fire on the USS Forrestal in 1967, are extremely angry about bringing home Sgt Bowe Bergdahl. Here is a POW who is a nobody with the nerve to question an overseas war, in the face of evidence that the US government was lying to soldiers, and to the American public. McCain was always a somebody, and he has never had the nerve to question government policy unless he saw a political gain in doing so.

Curiously, many in the right would gladly support Obama’s policies if a midwestern Republican were implementing them. These same folks took pride in the Bush II era, yet are totally offended by Obama’s identical foreign policy, his identical pernicious domestic meddling and state growth. It isn’t racism, but it may be harder to fix. Most of what passes for the political right as a movement doesn’t even understand what they stand for. They don’t understand fundamentals of federalism and limited government, they don’t understand the language and motivations of the founders, and they lack the kind of self- awareness that might allow them to question why they feel there is such a difference between a George W and Barack H.

Had President Bush conducted this prisoner exchange, brokered by Qatar or even his friends in Saudi Arabia, I imagine the spin would be a bit different from the raging superpatriots on the neocon left and right. I’m sure we would find (after the fact) that Bush had in fact consulted with members of Congress privately, and that the return of the dangerous Talibani to Afghanistan (a year from now (?), after being held by a US-friendly khanate) was actually a great strategy to ensure that the USG would have another stick with which to beat the post-Karzai government into signing a status of forces agreement that allows US troops to stay in country and do what they and (the military establishment and global banking elite) want.

What? Is Obama a political genius — with impeccable timing, and a boldness that even his enemies would admire? I mean, no less than Dick Cheney just called Obama the weakest president ever — and then the sly politico openly bucks a Congressional rule about a legal netherworld of Guantanamo and its inmates, who in fact are not POWs, but detainees, because no war was ever declared, and as Washington well knows, these prisoners have been found not to be subject to Geneva Convention rights, precisely because they are not prisoners of war. And war, whether on terrorism or poppy growers, or a political sector of a foreign country, is not the correct legal term — but I guess words mean whatever we want them to mean, in this fantasy world of political rules and niceties, of tortured limbs and tortured logic.

But back to Bowe Bergdahl. I worry more about him today in the hands of the USG, in this post-Wikileaks and post-Edward Snowden world than I ever did when he was in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bowe, home-schooled, raised with an ethical spine, and informed by classical and worldly readings, had already become disillusioned by the lies and the falsity of what our soldiers were being asked to do in Afghanistan. His disillusionment would find flight in his words, and if it is true that he walked away, in his actions that would inspire many if widely known.

When one can observe and measure the world around him or her, and articulate what he sees, and can use language and logic to explore what it all means, this is a gift, rarely seen. The soldier poet, the veteran who becomes a worker of words to deal with what he has seen and perceived about power, and love, and hate and war, politics and human beings – this solder and this veteran are extremely valuable.

But because they can tell the truth and speak it nobly, if the truth they speak goes against the desires of the state, or falsifies a state fairy tale, these men and women become dangerous.

I don’t know Bowe. But when I read the letters Bowe wrote home five years ago, I see the simple words of a brave thinker. He is in a class of men who use language and live their lives in service to honesty and personal integrity. This is rare, and when it is found, the hacks and sycophants of governments everywhere become enraged. In fact, the loud collective hysteria of the hacks and sycophants is quite helpful in identifying those we should be listening to, and learning from.

karen head shot benchThe existence of one Bowe Bergdahl speaking the truth will undercut ten statist thinktanks, a hundred neoconservative op ed writers, a thousand GOP and Democratic warmongering strategists, and can soothe the minds of millions of Americans who sense the truth but cannot articulate it. Bowe is not safe in the hands of the military, where men with guns and men with medical degrees all serve the state, with too much obedience and too little honor. I hope his time with the debriefers and the government psychiatrists is short.

If Bowe gets home and is allowed to live his life, it will be the right thing, and I’m keeping my fingers crossed. If this episode leads to more discussion of the legal and Catch-22 status of Gitmo and the utter inability of anyone there to get a legitimate trial, or to be released without controversy, that would be good. If it leads to a deeper discussion of the real nature of the evil the USG has been doing in Afghanistan for the past decade, and more awareness of Afghan politics today, that’s fine. And, if due to Washington politics and reactive anger by war lovers some aspect of this case leads to an impeachment of the President, after we’ve seen so many impeachable offenses that never motivated the Republican House to act, well, that would be icing on the cake.

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#22. To: Ada (#0)

I don’t know Bowe. But when I read the letters Bowe wrote home five years ago, I see the simple words of a brave thinker. He is in a class of men who use language and live their lives in service to honesty and personal integrity. This is rare, and when it is found, the hacks and sycophants of governments everywhere become enraged. In fact, the loud collective hysteria of the hacks and sycophants is quite helpful in identifying those we should be listening to, and learning from.

"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars: the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - - H. L. Mencken

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   0:45:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#22)

"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars: the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - - H. L. Mencken

It never fails.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-06-05   0:50:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: James Deffenbach (#23)

The story is so over covered by partisan hacks edging for some political clout from nubs glued to the box in the living room.

Meanwhile, the dollar is crapping out. Russia, China, and India are forming a trade block that will be the death of the dollar. The idiots running the banks are wailing that the banking system will fall apart "if" they are prosecuted when they know damn good and well it will fall apart anyway. The bill of rights is shredded.

They want to talk of this soldier deserting or walking away or what ever and a big scary exchange for five men that have been sitting in Gitmo for five years without ever being convicted of ANYTHING. If they had a case on any of them, it would have been tried years ago. This nation has been warring non stop since Vam and hasn't had a win against rebels even when they call them terrorists.

The dead from these wars are piled miles high, mostly civilians, and the nubs want to rant and rave over a swap for an American who had clarity and integrity about the criminality of all of it. Meanwhile, Obama's drones keep killing day in and day out. Every nation touched by the American war machine in the Middle East is falling apart......yet, they can't wait to get into Ukraine or Sudan or Syria. It's disgusting.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   1:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: abraxas (#24)

The dead from these wars are piled miles high, mostly civilians, and the nubs want to rant and rave over a swap for an American who had clarity and integrity about the criminality of all of it.

If he had actually had clarity he would never have joined because anyone who keeps up knows that America has gotten itself into one CF after another for the benefit of bankers and munitions manufacturers. If he had integrity he wouldn't have deserted his unit and sought out the enemy.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-06-05   10:22:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#27) (Edited)

If he had actually had clarity he would never have joined because anyone who keeps up knows that America has gotten itself into one CF after another for the benefit of bankers and munitions manufacturers. If he had integrity he wouldn't have deserted his unit and sought out the enemy.

He would not be the first to learn clarity from experience rather than prior investigation.

From my understanding his unit was a CF. If there was no person to turn to and no positive outcome, walking into the desert may have been the path to take. I did not walk a mile in his military issue boots, therefore I cannot fully comprehend or dare to judge the actions taken.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   13:04:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: abraxas (#32)

I did not walk a mile in his military issue boots, therefore I cannot fully comprehend or dare to judge the actions taken.

The other soldiers he was there with said he is not a hero, that he deserted. Are they liars? If they are telling the truth, and I don't know what reason they would have to lie, he put them at risk. Do they have any right to judge his actions? The ones I have heard talk, to a man, do NOT call him a hero--the kindest thing they say about him is that he was a deserter if not a traitor/collaborator.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-06-05   14:36:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: James Deffenbach (#36)

The other soldiers he was there with said

Yes, we have here say regarding the matter. Maybe these soldiers did not like him or they speculate or they saw the incident in a certain way. That doesn't make it true.

He walked off. We do NOT know his intent. What evidence is there that he was a traitor/collaborator? The fact that he did not want to kill more Afgans?

He walked away but we do not know his intent or his state of mind.

And, for the record, I have not called him a hero. I said he followed his conscience, which is certainly a rarity.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   15:12:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: abraxas (#40)

Yes, we have here say regarding the matter.

No, it's hear say when it comes from a third party. I heard the soldiers being interviewed.

Whatever the case, I am not going to waste any more time on it. Susan Rice and Bammy thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and will probably be referring to him as a "hero" soon enough. Tells me all I need to know about him.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2014-06-05   15:15:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

Susan Rice and Bammy thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and will probably be referring to him as a "hero" soon enough. Tells me all I need to know about him.

I think that, either way, it was the right thing to do to bring the guy home. Trading 5 prisoners held without conviction or likely even charges is good too. It's a disgrace this nation holds them in GITMO indefinitely without a trial.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   15:26:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas (#42)

Trading 5 prisoners held without conviction or likely even charges is good too.

Perhaps you should read up on the 5 prisoners Messiah released before you conclude that it was a "good" thing to do. Not all Muslims are pure as the driven snow.

www.weeklystandard.com/bl...change_794017.html?page=2

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The Taliban has long demanded that the “Gitmo 5” be released in order for peace talks to begin in earnest...There are good reasons why the Taliban has long wanted the five freed from Gitmo. All five are among the Taliban’s top commanders in U.S. custody and are still revered in jihadist circles.

Two of the five have been wanted by the UN for war crimes. And because of their prowess, Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO) deemed all five of them “high” risks to the U.S. and its allies...

Here are short bios for each of the five Taliban commanders. All quotes are drawn from declassified and leaked documents prepared at Guantanamo.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al Qaeda operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-06-05   15:55:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2 (#44)

Gee, if there is so much evidence and they are so terrible......WHY NOT TRY THEM AND CONVICT THEM?

You think it is okay to hold people indefinitely with no trial? Besides we are not a war with the Taliban, who at one time we armed, we are after Al Quada...the data base of "terrorists" created by the CIA so that we can have perpetual war.

Every one that is held with no trial should be shipped out. Try them, convict them, sentence them.....at one time that was the American Way.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   19:30:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: abraxas (#50)

Every one that is held with no trial should be shipped out. Try them, convict them, sentence them.....at one time that was the American Way.

Wow that sounds so easy. Why hasn't anyone else come up with that plan?

scrapper2  posted on  2014-06-05   19:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: scrapper2 (#51)

Wow that sounds so easy. Why hasn't anyone else come up with that plan?

What is stopping them? The evidence is so darn overwhelming after all. They have held them for years with no due process. Seriously, that's okay with you?

Also, the profiles are written after they have them in custody to justify the custody in the first place. That really isn't evidence. Perhaps that is why they have not tried them in the courts.

abraxas  posted on  2014-06-05   22:20:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#60. To: abraxas (#59)

Were there any evidence, they would have been tried.

It's all a criminal joke.

Lod  posted on  2014-06-05 22:24:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas (#59)

I think it's a bit more complicated legally speaking than what you may think.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-06-05 22:34:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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