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Title: ALERT: U.S. PROPOSES DOUSING WILDERNESS AREAS WITH HERBICIDES
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Organic Consumers Association
URL Source: http://www.organicconsumers.org/blm.htm
Published: Dec 19, 2005
Author: OCA
Post Date: 2005-12-19 00:34:38 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: WILDERNESS, HERBICIDES, PROPOSES
Views: 234
Comments: 25
ALERT: U.S. PROPOSES DOUSING WILDERNESS AREAS WITH HERBICIDES Click Here to Sign Petition Note: Public comment period ends Jan.9,2006 An integral part of this proposal involves aerial spraying of toxic herbicides, which increases negative impacts on non-targeted vegetation, wildlife, and people, including recreationists, tourists, and native peoples (herbicide application areas include Alaska, where native fishing and plant gathering is widespread). Fortunately, the proposal also includes an analysis of possible outcomes of using nonchemical means of managing these areas and offers an option (Option C) wherein traditional methods of vegetation management are used on public lands, not the use widespread application of toxic chemicals. Take action now and submit your public comment in support of Option C of the Bureau of Land Management Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement. Note: Public comment period ends Jan.9,2006 SIGN PETITION TO BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT
Poster Comment: Sample Petition Subject: Comment on BLM Programmatic EIS for Herbicide Vegetation Treatments in 17 Western States Brian Amme, Project Manager Mr. Brian Amme, I have reviewed the Bureau of Land Management's proposal for herbicide applications to public lands in western states. I am urging BLM to choose Option 3 (C) in its proposal, wherein alternative control methods, other than herbicides, would be used. As a user (and citizen owner) of these public lands, I am deeply concerned with allowing such a large use of herbicides on public lands, including National Monuments and National Conservation areas. An integral part of this proposal involves aerial spraying of toxic herbicides, which increases negative impacts on non-targeted vegetation, wildlife, and people, including recreationists, tourists, and native peoples (herbicide application areas include Alaska, where native fishing and plant gathering is widespread). Although the proposal claims care would be taken in applying the pesticides in a controlled manner, these chemicals are known to drift much further than anticipated and cause unexpected health and ecological impacts. The pesticides that would be used include persistent and mobile chemicals, including known developmental and reproductive toxins. U.S. biologists, ecologists and wildlife managers have a vast array of alternative vegetation management tools to choose from, without having to resort to applying toxic chemicals to our public lands. Please choose Option 3 (C). Thank you for your care and consideration, [petition signatures]
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The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has proposed to apply massive amounts of herbicides to public lands in 17 Western states. The BLM claims these pesticides need to be applied to forests, rangelands and aquatic areas in order to reduce the risk of fire and slow the spread of invasive weeds. Under the proposal 932,000 acres would undergo chemical application in 17 western states, including National Monuments and National Conservation areas. 
The herbicides that would be used include persistent and mobile chemicals, including known developmental and reproductive toxins. The list of herbicides includes 4 new chemicals and 14 other pesticides, including 2,4-D, bromacil, chlorsulfuron, diquat, diuron, fluridone, hexazinone, teburthiruon, triclopyr, and picloram. The proposal would also allow the use of "new chemicals that may be developed in the future."
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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Good. I hope they reopen closed roads, I hope they recognise the fact that the "balance of nature" arguement is unrealistic, I hope they give up on the concept of self perpetuating wilderness, in short, I hope they send in mexicans with chainsaws to do the jobs that americans will not do. It is win-win for the economy and the environment - screw the chemical companies!
It's almost as if these guys in charge also want to wreck the environment by poisoning various areas of the earth. Iraq is full of DU, and effects of radiation will be felt there for a very long time. The people in the area exposed to it probably won't live out their full life spans. The other day I read an article about how they took some used-up military hardware from Iraq and shipped it back to the US and then dumped it out in the open somewhere in Kansas. This waste is radioactive yet our govt doesn't seem to care. And now this. They don't need to poison the land and everthing that springs forth from it and lives on it, they should chop down some trees if anything, trimming the forests down if it really needs to be done to prevent fires. And money could be made on the lumber. Maybe they just want to poison it who knows anymore.
Better suggestion. Maybe they want to return a favor by purchasing the chemicals from a pal? Like Santorum calling for an end to "free" National Weather Service info.. Which would in turn force folks to purchase the info from outfits like AccuWeather. (Who just happens to be a campaign contributor.)
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” President Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
that's exactly the way I feel about it. there's no reason to use chemicals en masse like this. This is insanity. First of all, you merely have to allow a profit-making lumber harvesting company to come in and clean the forest of both mature trees and brush at the same time, and then you will be maintaining the forest. You don't need chemicals. First they make it so the profit making lumber company can't do the job, then they allow the forest fires to run wild, then they propose fixes like this that are just poison. We'd be so much better off if the federal government would just let the states manage their own land.
Apparently none of the Zio-Nazis or the Neo-Crazies plan on ever living in Kansas.
Bureau of Land Management ping!
Any petition concerning the use and care of federally owned lands should include something stating that while we don't recognize the federal government's power to own this land in the first place, if they insist on illegally owning this land, we insist that they do with it what we tell them to do, until we can bring them to justice for their crimes.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Ya know....maybe they're just all Satanists. I'm thinking that Bush may well be the Anti-Christ and all these neo-cons are like the spawn of Satan. They're inherently evil. I think people keep trying to figure out their motives over and over again and while we can all understand the drive for money and lust for power that obviously motivate them, some of what they do just doesn't seem to make any SENSE. Even Mongolian hordes didn't behave like this. I think it's just that they're....evil. Maybe that's enough of an explanation.
It could be as simple as that. I'm sure the power, money, and control over people is an added incentive, however.
if you had said they're going to spray the forest with an herbicide in advance everyone would say you were a loon whose grudges against Republicans were so great that you can't see straight and make these ridiculous accusations. Now they're planning on actually doing it. But because this is not a front & center story on the evening news 90% of the Americans will not believe it if you told them. Such is the nature of the propaganda induced delusions that the Americans are under. and in this environment great evil can and does prosper greatly. it is pure evil to fly a plane over the forest and spray a herbicide down. we should all be able to agree on that. then look at the DU dust they're polluting the earth with. Then look at how pharmaceutical drugs that they push for people do not break down and end up in the water supply and in fact do strong damage to wildlife - we already have solid evidence of this from scientists. So they are doing multiple things that we know of to destroy the earth. and then we don't even know what they're doing with the chemtrails and the weather modification and HAARP. the bible tells us that one day the earth will be ruled by people who will destroy the earth. it says that god's people will be deluded into supporting these evil rulers. it says that these rulers who destroy the earth will be completely destroyed themselves.
see article I just posted
And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush
That's what I'm starting to think because they love death and destruction, whether there is any need or not. They love to make lands inhabitable, they love to destroy old civilizations and cultures, and they love to torture and kill. I'm not the most religious person there is but I'd say Satan has been let loose to rule the earth and has handed great power to his minions, I just don't know of any other explanation for what is happening.
Right, in their very narrow black and white way of looking at things, they refer to this part of the country as "fly-over country" as if it doesn't really exist, for them anyway. They also like to imagine "fly-over country" is only populated with the white trailer trash and bible-belt Christians they so despise, so they think what the heck, it's expendable.
They really do detest the little people, us "useless eaters".
Diana Maybe they attacked Iraq for more reasons. Like maybe they wanted the ancient babylonian occult artifacts.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I've even wondered when/if a time will come when they decide to exterminate the ultimate useless eaters (to them), our dogs and cats.
I know some people suspect that.
Well, Then it will be on.... We love our little critters and if they lay a hand on them....Lord help em!
Well, Then it will be on.... you got that right.
War is good for business. Invest your son.
To paraphrase an old favorite: "Want to find out if there's life after death? Hurt my pets or my wife, and you'll find out fast!"
Good one.....
Well, you already cannot eat fish out of half the waters in KY due to the mercury levels. Deer shot around here this fall have some kind of weird growths on them. I have had chicks this past summer hatch on my front porch that were so deformed that none of them made it. Half of my critters have all kinds of health issues. It seems to me that they already are poisoning the environment and the critters that are in it. God only knows what the little children will come down with a few years down the road. The bots don't care because Bush isn't up for re-election.
Bush: Worst. President. EVER.
I'm definitely against the blanket spraying by the morons affiliated/associated with fedgov! At the same time, I realize they've FUBAR's forested areas of the country-- whether by inept management plans, letting forest fires run wild, locking out multiple uses and/or users, allowing insect infestations to ruin large segments of wooded lands. And in doing all this, they've allowed weeds to take hold not only of 'public lands', but private lands are impacted because there is no weed management in the 'public lands'. Why anyone would believe that the 'problem' has the 'cure' is beyond me! You can't even trust goverment to fuck up good! They botch everything they touch. During my time in agriculture, and even now, I've had numerous experiences with weed management and control. The last person I'd look to is fedgov for any solution.......and I know how bad infestations of canadian thistle and spotted knapweed, not to mention leafy spurge, can be. Their solution would be to aerial spray killing off all the fish in the area, all the insects in the area, and harming small forest creatures, and in some possible way screwing up whatever food sources are there for the ungulates. And people can bitch til hell freezes over..........the bastards are in charge and will do as they want...........just like the liar in chief.
Well they're emulating Hitler in other ways, so maybe they take after him in this one as well. Maybe they found the skull of Nebuchadnezzar and they're going to add it to Geronimo's in their Skull and Bones ceremonies.
God bless you and yours. I hope you make it. That is truly frightening. I worry about the next generation coming up as well. It's not just the political/social/economic collapse they'll have to contend with, but maybe even serious genetic and health defects resulting from all these chemicals and environmental poisonings.
Fortunately, the proposal also includes an analysis of possible outcomes of using nonchemical means of managing these areas and offers an option (Option C) wherein traditional methods of vegetation management are used on public lands, not the use widespread application of toxic chemicals.
#2. To: BTP Holdings, robin, Zipporah, Itsa1mosttoolate, Coral Snake, All (#0)
An integral part of this proposal involves aerial spraying of toxic herbicides, which increases negative impacts on non-targeted vegetation, wildlife, and people, including recreationists, tourists, and native peoples (herbicide application areas include Alaska, where native fishing and plant gathering is widespread).
#3. To: Diana (#2)
Maybe they just want to poison it who knows anymore.
#4. To: Diana (#2)
It's almost as if these guys in charge also want to wreck the environment
#5. To: Diana (#2)
and then dumped it out in the open somewhere in Kansas. This waste is radioactive yet our govt doesn't seem to care.
#6. To: rowdee (#0)
#7. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
#8. To: Red Jones (#4)
#9. To: mehitable (#8)
I think it's just that they're....evil.
#10. To: who knows what evil (#9)
#11. To: Red Jones (#10)
#12. To: mehitable, Red Jones, Jhoffa_ (#8)
I think it's just that they're....evil. Maybe that's enough of an explanation.
#13. To: robin (#5)
Apparently none of the Zio-Nazis or the Neo-Crazies plan on ever living in Kansas.
#14. To: Diana (#13)
They also like to imagine "fly-over country" is only populated with the white trailer trash and bible-belt Christians they so despise, so they think what the heck, it's expendable.
#15. To: Diana (#12)
I'm not the most religious person there is but I'd say Satan has been let loose to rule the earth and has handed great power to his minions, I just don't know of any other explanation for what is happening.
#16. To: timetobuildaboat, all (#14)
They really do detest the little people, us "useless eaters".
#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Like maybe they wanted the ancient babylonian occult artifacts.
#18. To: Diana, Zipporah, Christine, Robin (#16)
I've even wondered when/if a time will come when they decide to exterminate the ultimate useless eaters (to them), our dogs and cats.
#19. To: timetobuildaboat, justlurking (#18)
I've even wondered when/if a time will come when they decide to exterminate the ultimate useless eaters (to them), our dogs and cats.
#20. To: timetobuildaboat (#18)
We love our little critters and if they lay a hand on them....Lord help em!
#21. To: who knows what evil (#20)
"Want to find out if there's life after death? Hurt my pets or my wife, and you'll find out fast!"
#22. To: christine (#19)
I've even wondered when/if a time will come when they decide to exterminate the ultimate useless eaters (to them), our dogs and cats.
#23. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
#24. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Maybe they attacked Iraq for more reasons. Like maybe they wanted the ancient babylonian occult artifacts.
#25. To: justlurking (#22)
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