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Title: Savage: Media 'hiding' illegal-alien disease threat
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/savage-m ... -illegal-alien-disease-threat/
Published: Jul 4, 2014
Author: staff
Post Date: 2014-07-04 09:27:49 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 331
Comments: 32

The establishment media’s refusal to acknowledge that once-contained or eradicated diseases are re-entering the U.S. through the latest flood of illegal aliens isn’t a surprise to Michael Savage, who earned a doctorate in epidemiology at the University of California at Berkeley before becoming a top nationally syndicated talk-radio host.

“What the liberal media is hiding from you can be dangerous for your safety, your security and your health,” he told his listeners.

After earning his doctorate in 1978 and writing six books, Savage pitched to publishers a book titled “Immigrants and Epidemics,” which he wrote with the dean of a “prestigious public health university.”

“Although all my previous books had done well,” Savage recalled, “all publishers in New York City in 1982 said we cannot publish a book on immigrants and epidemics, no matter how well (documented) or factually true it is. We can’t publish it for political reasons.”

The rejection angered him, he said, and was one of the reasons he eventually decided to go into talk radio, in 1994.

Since then, he said, “I’ve been trying to warn Americans about what unscreened immigrants will be bringing into America.”

‘You’re not going to hear this’

As thousands of illegal-alien children, prompted by President Obama’s policies, overwhelm the capacity of southern border states, Border Patrol agents who essentially have been turned into child caretakers are being exposed to disease, Savage said.

“Right now, you’re not going to hear this, but we have Tuberculosis, hand-foot-and-mouth disease, Chagas disease – previously eradicated from Southern California – on the rise and testing positive in … Border Patrol agents,” Savage said.

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Other diseases emerging among Border Patrol agents, he said, include H1N1 Swine flu and chicken pox.

“The Border Patrol is being threatened with lawsuits and firing if they disclose this,” he said. “Congressmen are being turned away from the border as they go to investigate this surge of infected illegal aliens being thrown across the border at us.”

Speaking to his critics, Savage pointed to his academic qualifications.

“It’s easy for you to say I’m simply an alarmist or a racist, I’m a this-ist or a that-ist,” he said. “Well you’ve got it all wrong. The only “ist” I am is an epidemiologist. I am not a racist. I am not an alarmist. I am an epidemiologist by training.”

‘Next American revolution’

Savage called the border crisis an “invasion orchestrated in the White House for political reasons.”

It reached a flashpoint Tuesday when protesters blocked buses from transporting illegal-alien children from Central America to Border Patrol facilities in Murrieta, California, south of Los Angeles.

Savage sees the Murrieta protest as a seminal moment in which the “real America” said no to the government.

“It’s the beginning of the next American revolution,” he said. “This is not a joke. Take a look at their faces: Women, men, children holding signs ‘Stop illegal immigration.’”

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Savage criticized House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi for justifying the violation of law by emphasizing that “every person has a spark of divinity in them.”

“Sure, they have a spark of divinity,” Savage responded, but, he asked, “What kind of mothers would do to humans what they wouldn’t do to a dog?

“If you drop a dog off on the side of a street and run away, you’re considered a bad person; you could be arrested,” he said. “But the federal government has no problem with dropping children off on the side of a road?”

Savage asked if Americans really understand what will happen “when a soccer mom awakens one morning and her daughter’s hair is crawling with lice?”

“Do you understand what’s going to happen when she awakens one morning and her little darling comes home testing positive for Tuberculosis, because one of the divinely inspired children of Nancy Pelosi was permitted to enter that classroom with Tuberculosis?”

Failure to follow the Constitution

He rattled off a series of further questions:

“Do you know that your U.S. government officials can be arrested for refusing to protect Americans from the dangerous diseases that they are exposing us to?” “Do you understand they are waging a war against conservative communities by bringing in whole populations of automatic Democrat voters, legal or illegal?” “Do you understand that this is not ultra-tolerance for immigrants but a war against America?”

In his 2005 book “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder,” Savage noted in a chapter called “Alien invasion” that Republican President Ronald Reagan signed legislation allowing amnesty, which, according to most experts, made the illegal-alien problem worse.

“If you think it’s a problem that began with Obama, you’re mistaken,” Savage told his listeners Wednesday.

In his 2005 book, he noted that the U.S. Constitution requires the federal government to “protect each state against invasion.”

Both Republicans and Democrats are responsible, Savage said.

“Thanks to their failure to follow the Constitution with the same fervor with which they slavishly follow poll numbers,” he wrote, “our borders are more porous than your grandmother’s sieve.”

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Worst kind of shock talk conservative spreading scare tactics to get ratings. He doesn't dare touch the real issues here.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   9:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deasy (#1)

Savage is a Jew. He is a ratings whore. But he has ridden the immigration issue to where he is. He is correct on disease. Would you want to fly a plane after it had flown hundreds of illegal alien children full of lice,scabies, Chagas, active TB and Swine Flu? DHS is not delousing those planes after every flight.

Chagas disease /ÈtƒQÐaYs/, or American trypanosomiasis, is a tropical parasitic disease caused by the protozoan Trypanosoma cruzi and spread mostly by insects known as Triatominae or kissing bugs.[1] The symptoms change over the course of the infection. In the early stage, symptoms are typically either not present or mild and may include: fever, swollen lymph nodes, headaches, or local swelling at the site of the bite.[1] After 8–12 weeks, individuals enter the chronic phase of disease and in 60–70% it never produces further symptoms.[2][3] The other 30 to 40% of people develop further symptoms 10 to 30 years after the initial infection.[3] This includes enlargement of the ventricles of the heart in 20 to 30% leading to heart failure.[1] An enlarged esophagus or an enlarged colon may also occur in 10% of people.[1]

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-07-04   9:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#2)

My point is that over the past 150 years, scaring the bejesus out of the native-born population with diseases brought by immigrants has not slowed down the flow. It only accelerated.

And you should check the existing epidemics we have in America due to lowered cultural standards. Plenty of native-born white families have their own lice, bedbugs. Just look at the AIDS and hepatitis statistics.

This is my gripe: American liberty activists are constantly frightening themselves with the latest disinformation and then trying to pass it on to their fellow citizens to "wake them up." It's a waste of time, especially in this case, where depressed white-only areas have their own infestations to "share" and "share alike."

Plus, Savage just believes that any revised immigration standards would let his kind in just because they're God's gift to mankind.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   10:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deasy (#3)

My point is that active TB, Chagas and the like are important. These kids will be going to school om 8 weeks or less. They will be getting mostly the children of Obama voters sick. Then things will get interesting. And hose children with Gang Tattoos will start getting caught for local crimes like extortion and even murder. This will get the sheeple motivated. I saw a poll that showed Obama voters more depressed about the economy than others. That is because their jobs are threatened by this flood of immigration.

We have added 35 million to our population since 2000 but Native Born Americans have lost a net of 127,000 jobs. And the Obama voters have to compete against all these illegals for welfare. And we are headed to welfare and Austerity cuts the dollar will soon hit a wall. Even a liberal economist like Steve Keen said we are headed to the worst Financial Collapse in 500 years because we have more debt to cancel than anytime in 5 centuries.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-07-04   12:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse (#4)

My point is that no one but a few nativists are afraid of the changes you're describing. The Alex Jones-style fear tactics don't buy any serious support from the rest of the country.

I'm not saying that you're wrong in any way. I'm only trying to point out that this tactic has failed. Your statistics prove it.

It seems that a few Republican voters care, as in the Cantor/Brat face off. That's been the only good news I've heard on this subject in years.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   12:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#0)

Savage called the border crisis an “invasion orchestrated in the White House for political reasons.”

It's another form of Coup used by the Bolsheviks to destroy Czarist Russia.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   13:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deasy (#1)

Worst kind of shock talk conservative spreading scare tactics to get ratings. He doesn't dare touch the real issues here.

How did you find your way here ? Did you get a shill map or what ?

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   13:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy (#5)

My point is that no one but a few nativists are afraid of the changes you're describing. The Alex Jones-style fear tactics don't buy any serious support from the rest of the country.

Patience has always been considered a virtue but at some point the abused spouse fights back, victims of bullying strike out and in the end the silent majority will tire of accepting nonsensical bullshit about multiculturalism that ultimately robs them of their efforts, rapes their women, and kills their children, and they will slaughter millions if necessary.

When that day arrives idiots like yourself will not know what hit them.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   13:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#8)

I can't believe you're standing up for Savage.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   13:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deasy (#9) (Edited)

I can't believe you're standing up for Savage.

I'm not, he's telling the truth. And that is what I stand up for.

EDIT: His name is Weiner ! (In the interest of truth).

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   14:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#10)

YOU tell the truth. That's different from what the shock jocks of conspiracy and right-wing radio do. From InfoWars to WND from Hannity to C2C radio, it's mostly a huge diversion. Add lizard DNA from Icke and British Israelism, UFOs and New Age cults into it and you've got a ton of garbage.

I need not remind you that we shouldn't waste our time fearing imported lice when we have our own.

The question here is are we going to continue down the path to minority status voluntarily or not? Vermin isn't the real problem. Savage can't touch this because he isn't native. He thinks he can screen immigrants into better and worse categories for us.

I don't agree with letting Savage decide who immigrates to America. I don't even want to listen to his opinions on it.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   14:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deasy (#11)

YOU tell the truth. That's different from what the shock jocks of conspiracy and right-wing radio do. From InfoWars to WND from Hannity to C2C radio, it's mostly a huge diversion. Add lizard DNA from Icke and British Israelism, UFOs and New Age cults into it and you've got a ton of garbage.

I need not remind you that we shouldn't waste our time fearing imported lice when we have our own.

The question here is are we going to continue down the path to minority status voluntarily or not? Vermin isn't the real problem. Savage can't touch this because he isn't native. He thinks he can screen immigrants into better and worse categories for us.

I don't agree with letting Savage decide who immigrates to America. I don't even want to listen to his opinions on it.

OK, from the top:

I like Alex Jones and support his efforts because he addresses issues not touched by Pro-Israeli asshats like Grimm Beck, Scam Hannity, Michael Medvedev, Bill Is'Raeli, Bill Kristol(night) or Big Foot chasers on C2C. Alex Jones seldom condemns Jews or the fake state of IS(not)Real, because he's smarter than many that learned the hard way how far one can take the Jew thing.

Let me also state that I don't think it's merely the Jews that have caused the world's problems but I must admit that I think they cause a disproportionate amount of trouble for this country and the entire world for that matter. Anyone that believes they've been expelled from every country that they've migrated to because of their religious beliefs is a moron. As a class of people they are the most despicable on earth, in my opinion the greatest collection of whining cry babies ever. Just fuck Israel.

On to better things: This country has immigration laws that are actually being violated by the branch of government charged with enforcing them. Michael (Weiner) Savage ain't got shit to do with that. And, when the government takes the cell phones away from hospital workers and others so that they can't report the disease ridden shit being brought into this country by the executive branch and the Catholic Church because Americans might want to remain free from diseases already dealt with in the past and might get angry enough to do something about it.

I really don't care where you came from but you'll really have a tough time here because most of us are old enough to have experienced as much lying horseshit as we're willing to tolerate.

In closing this post I'd say that most of the right wing talk hosts are shills and gatekeepers trying to make the morons in this country remain faithful to a system that sold them out 100 years ago. You on the one hand seem pretty bright - but on the other hand you seem to promote the status quo and current tyranny as something we have to accept or live with.

That ain't freedom.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   14:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Horse (#0)

How come Savage never mentions this?

Jewish values at heart of immigration reform

lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-...rm?pid=8284768#pid8284768

Notice the closed thread because it's "anti-semitic" even though it's Jews writing the article.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

Americans 1st  posted on  2014-07-04   15:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy (#5)

The majority of the country has been dumbed dowm. They live inside a Media Bubble. A woman last week who liked Michael Hastings said it wsa too bad he got drunk and drove threw a red light. I had to correct her. I told what really happened. She figured it out once she had the information. Most people can't do that.

But having said that I will stand against immigration. We are headed to a severe Financial Crisis worse then 1933. 3 Million Americans starved to death. We will lose 10 million this time. Adding immigrants will only add to that number.

Alex Jones is a Zionist. He has a Jewish wife and hence Jewish children. I listen to him but I form my own opinions.The laws you see now will be going away.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2014-07-04   16:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#12)

...on the other hand you seem to promote the status quo and current tyranny as something we have to accept or live with.

You've misunderstood me there. Don't mistake criticism of the liberty movement as acceptance of what it claims to oppose. If the liberty movement was succeeding I wouldn't feel a need to make suggestions to improve its effectiveness.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   17:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Horse (#14)

But having said that I will stand against immigration.

As do I.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-04   17:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Horse (#14)

Alex Jones is a Zionist.

I do not believe you can prove that statement ... however you're free to throw it around.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-04   21:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222 (#17)

Alex Jones is a Zionist.

I do not believe you can prove that statement ... however you're free to throw it around.

I've listened to AJ for near twenty years now, and never have I heard anything zionist from his lips.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2014-07-04   22:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod, christine (#18) (Edited)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=167338
Physics 101: What Our Next President Needs to Know

The problem with Alex Jones is he lives in a parallel universe where facts don't matter. He uses any exciting thing to unnerve his fans and keep them on a steady dose of adrenaline.

Watch the video at the above link which happens to address most of Jones' favorite boogeymen: fictitious depopulation agenda, how the WTC towers came down, what's really going on with global warming, and the energy crisis.

The biggest issue for me is the depop agenda, which Muller points out (indirectly) is a non-issue for the elites because natural limits are working to restrict population already.

It seems very difficult for AJ's subscribers to understand how vaccinations could bring down population growth without killing or sterilizing. I understood Bill Gates' plan immediately when I first heard it: get parents to have confidence in the survivability of their children and they'll have fewer. This is a simple concept. Sneak a death-wish into the equation and people can't look away.

Bill and Melinda are running around doing merciful work, and AJ can't stop blood libeling them. It's dangerous, distracting, and dishonorable.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   0:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deasy (#19)

fictitious depopulation agenda, how the WTC towers came down, what's really going on with global warming, and the energy crisis.

The biggest issue for me is the depop agenda, which Muller points out (indirectly) is a non-issue for the elites because natural limits are working to restrict population already.

It seems very difficult for AJ's subscribers to understand how vaccinations could bring down population growth without killing or sterilizing. I understood Bill Gates' plan immediately when I first heard it: get parents to have confidence in the survivability of their children and they'll have fewer. This is a simple concept. Sneak a death-wish into the equation and people can't look away.

Bill and Melinda are running around doing merciful work, and AJ can't stop blood libeling them. It's dangerous, distracting, and dishonorable.

The depopulation agenda and eugenics programs have been going on since before AJ was born. [Who is Muller] ?

I personally don't think Bill and Melinda Gates are interested in the Africans they have vaccinated. The Gates' are globalists. Globalists promote and fund Agenda 21, Codex Alementarious, and a variety of other programs intended to control populations and their growth. I know that vaccines contain harmful (toxic) chemicals and if I were raising children today there's no way I'd have them vaccinated. Big Pharma spends millions keeping court data sealed in order to prevent widespread knowledge of their lawsuit losses from becoming public.

I also think the seed vault where non hybrid seeds are being stored in the arctic and sponsored by Bill and Melinda Gates is a program designed for elites that survive whatever catastrophe befalls the world. While it may be a wise decision I think it's questionable. And I'd also ask why aren't they storing Monsantos' GMO seeds ? Why has Europe banned the crap ?

What has AJ said about how the Towers came down that you disagree with ? Do you believe the government's fairytale ? I don't recall Jones as having ever said he knew definitively how they came down other than building 7. He has interviewed people that commented on times when the buildings were shut down ostensibly for refurbishing electrical conduit and computer wiring that could have been an opportunity to plant explosives. Again, do you believe the Govt tale ? How about WMDs in Iraq ?

A ton of engineers have questioned the government's story about the buildings being obliterated into dust on 9-11 and denied that there was any possibility that the government's tale was true.

I'm sorry, but you're a shill Deasy and you won't get away with it here.

Earlier you made your dislike for conservative talk show hosts known and actually I'd agree that most of them are shills like you are. I've listened to Jones for so many years and he was the first to report on many issues that were either lied about by the mainstream (and those conservative talk show hosts too) or ignored by them only to be proven accurate later on. You might be able to bullshit some folks but not many here are going to let you do that to them.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-05   8:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#20)

Can we agree to disagree?

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   9:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#20) (Edited)

Who is Muller?
Richard A. Muller is a successful physicist at U.C. Berkeley famous for teaching a course called Physics for Future Presidents.
The depopulation agenda and eugenics programs have been going on since before AJ was born.

Which programs are you talking about? Are they coordinated? Are they well-funded? Are they having any effect in terms that couldn't be explained otherwise? For example, the earth's population is still growing very fast.

Is there DNA testing to prove that vaccinated children are "modified" or "sterile" outside the normal ranges expected?

I personally don't think Bill and Melinda Gates are interested in the Africans they have vaccinated.
But AJ really, really cares. Actually, why? Shouldn't he be focused on American issues, domestic American issues? Who made him responsible for people in foreign countries? But you wrote about vaccinations for children you might care about.

Malaria is the world's biggest killer right now, as far as I know. Your children wouldn't be exposed to the kinds of killer diseases facing the third world, so you wouldn't feel any pressure to overprocreate. You could also probably get away with not vaccinating because super antibiotics would save your kids from diphtheria, measles, hooping cough and smallpox. I agree with you that the additives and preservatives in vaccines are dangerous, and I hope they are improved. The fact is that Alex Jones has focused on Bill and Melinda Gates. I don't think he has proof that they are villains.

I also think the seed vault where non hybrid seeds are being stored in the arctic and sponsored by Bill and Melinda Gates is a program designed for elites that survive whatever catastrophe befalls the world. While it may be a wise decision I think it's questionable. And I'd also ask why aren't they storing Monsantos' GMO seeds ? Why has Europe banned the crap ?
At least someone has the resources to create seed vaults. Great idea! These so-called "elites" might be able to help the human race in the event of a real disaster. Wouldn't you rather that somone would preserve seeds? GMO I don't like but I dislike what I know about it: the copyrighting and enforcement supported by governments. Other people are reporting on this and are very active in describing the economic impact. We don't need Alex Jones to inform us about this.
What has AJ said about how the Towers came down that you disagree with ? Do you believe the government's fairytale ? I don't recall Jones as having ever said he knew definitively how they came down other than building 7. He has interviewed people that commented on times when the buildings were shut down ostensibly for refurbishing electrical conduit and computer wiring that could have been an opportunity to plant explosives. Again, do you believe the Govt tale ?
I don't believe anything about 9/11 except that it happened and we used it as a pretext to go to war. I agree with your statement that AJ interviews people. He's just not very careful about his interview choices and he fires for effect rather than accuracy. We don't need any exaggerations. We don't need any lies on our side. What was done in the name of 9/11 is enough to make its status as an inside/permitted/outside job irrelevant in that one is right there in front of us, and the other still requires speculation. AJ speculates where none is needed.
How about WMDs in Iraq ?
Trick question: I don't know if there were WMD in Iraq before the 2003 war but none were ever found after. I think we shouldn't have believed Colin Powell's UN testimony, and we should never have sought UN permission to invade another country. However, there were WMD in Iraq during the first Gulf War and the UN inspectors did find centrifuges. These were destroyed by UN supervised teams, as far as I know. The issue here is speculative war for reasons that even if true weren't worthwhile.
A ton of engineers have questioned the government's story about the buildings being obliterated into dust on 9-11 and denied that there was any possibility that the government's tale was true.
Engineers can get carried away too. At this point there are so many competing theories and so many arguments active it hardly matters. We used it as a pretense for a NeoCon war, and the rest is history.
Earlier you made your dislike for conservative talk show hosts known and actually I'd agree that most of them are shills like you are. I've listened to Jones for so many years and he was the first to report on many issues that were either lied about by the mainstream (and those conservative talk show hosts too) or ignored by them only to be proven accurate later on.
There were plenty of other people investigating 9/11 as a possible fraud. As I recall, William Cooper was one of the first to predict an event of that scale in a specific time-frame, and also suggest that bin Laden would be blamed.

The four things I dislike about Alex Jones and his style:

  1. Demonizes in Christian religious terms people he dislikes and disagrees with.
  2. Relies on excitement of speculative reporting with exaggerations and fear tactics for ratings and subscribers.
  3. Continual beating of the depopulation drum. (Where's the proof, because it's not in the slowing of population growth today!)
  4. Use of the blanket term "Illuminati" to cover unknown "guidance" for connected events.
If AJ's tactics were going to be successful, the world would have changed by now. It hasn't. Not one bit.

The problem is that when one is investigating crime and conspiracy, there is absolutely no room for speculation or exaggeration. One iota of dishonesty or misinformation can cloud or totally erase one's ability to raise issues effectively.

Some 4um members seem to make a hobby out of finding wild and terrifying speculation and batting the notions back and forth until they become real.

It's ineffective as a motivator and disqualifying in rational debate.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   10:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deasy (#22) (Edited)

(AJ) Continual beating of the depopulation drum. (Where's the proof, because it's not in the slowing of population growth today!)

Maybe he should have said that the altering of America's demographic is the designed plan. I read somewhere this week that White deaths have outpaced White births for the first time in our history. Add to this the collapse of the Southern border and Whites soon will soon be a minority. So statistically the number of people might be increasing, but that is related to new, low functioning arrivals rather than a planned depopulation agenda.

Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-07-05   10:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deasy (#22) (Edited)

successful physicist at U.C. Berkeley

Berkeley (Haven for Lefties). (and, Michael Weiner Savage's alma mater).

I'm no longer interested in your opinion.

PS. I'm no supporter of organized religion at all. Most are compromised. Yet, I sense that you disrespect anything connected to God or someone's belief in God.

"Resolve to serve no more,” he says, “and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Étienne de La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2014-07-05   11:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

Maybe he should have said that the altering of America's demographic is the designed plan.

If it's a designed plan, you give the planners too much credit.

The planners are Caucasian. There's only so much protection gated communities offer. They sowed the seeds of their own race and culture's demise.

I think the planners actually believe in all the B.S. they've told us sheeple - that all cultures are equal - that once the world is light brown, there will be no wars, no greed. Kumbaya.

scrapper2  posted on  2014-07-05   12:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: scrapper2 (#25)

So over 92 million Americans aren't working, and yet we're importing hundreds of thousands of unemployable disease vectors from Mexico and Central America.

But the Washington Post says everything's just ducky, because the Dow Jones is over 17,000.

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2014-07-05   12:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scrapper2 (#25)

I think the planners actually believe in all the B.S. they've told us sheeple - that all cultures are equal - that once the world is light brown, there will be no wars, no greed. Kumbaya.

Without the White progressive mindset, our elected agent provocateurs in DC wouldn't be able to ignore both the invasion and the ultimate repositioning of White Americans.

Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2014-07-05   13:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: X-15 (#26)

all ponzies are not created equal.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2014-07-05   13:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: scrapper2 (#25)

I think the planners actually believe in all the B.S. they've told us sheeple - that all cultures are equal - that once the world is light brown, there will be no wars, no greed. Kumbaya.

Yes, but the beneficiaries aren't as quick to assimilate into this light brown ideology.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   14:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222 (#24) (Edited)

Berkeley (Haven for Lefties). (and, Michael Weiner Savage's alma mater).

So you reject Muller's thoughts on the basis of his institution?

I'm no supporter of organized religion at all. Most are compromised. Yet, I sense that you disrespect anything connected to God or someone's belief in God.
I'm a Nordic neopagan, a monotheist's natural target for conversion at the point of a sword, and yes monotheists are apt to demand respect for their gods without offering any visible value in return. No thank you.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   15:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: noone222 (#17)

Alex Jones is a Zionist.

I do not believe you can prove that statement ... however you're free to throw it around.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387

http://www.veteranstoday.com/201...x-jones-bashes-the-nazis/

alexjonesexposed.info/

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

Americans 1st  posted on  2014-07-05   17:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

Maybe he should have said that the altering of America's demographic is the designed plan. I read somewhere this week that White deaths have outpaced White births for the first time in our history.

Agreed, but he doesn't. As far as I know, these declines have nothing to do with GMOs, fluoride in the water, vaccination preservatives or formulations, FEMA camps, chemtrails, militarized police, or 9/11.

Usura slayeth the child in the womb
It stayeth the young man’s courting
It hath brought palsey to bed, lyeth
between the young bride and her bridegroom
       CONTRA NATURAM
They have brought whores for Eleusis
Corpses are set to banquet
at behest of usura.
That's all it took.

Deasy  posted on  2014-07-05   23:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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