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Title: Michael Hayden: Treat Immigration Crisis Like Insurgency
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ha ... 8_07092014&promo_code=tkii4hdv
Published: Jul 9, 2014
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Post Date: 2014-07-09 17:14:36 by BTP Holdings
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Michael Hayden: Treat Immigration Crisis Like Insurgency

Wednesday, 09 Jul 2014 12:19 PM

By Courtney Coren

Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency and CIA, said the constant flow of illegal immigrants should be treated like an insurgency.

"It's not an insurgency. I mean an insurgency has a political aim to overthrow the government," Hayden said on Newsmax TV's "America's Forum." "This is a criminal enterprise that's so big and so powerful that as a byproduct, it actually threatens the government."

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"The way you go after an insurgency is number one, decapitate it, number two, deny it safe haven, and number three, change the facts on the ground that create the insurgency," he said.

"We've actually done reasonably well with step one in cooperation with the Mexican government in terms of decapitating the movement of the drug cartels, but we really haven't done much with the other two steps," Hayden said.

Gen. John Kelly, who is the commander of the U.S. Southern Command, recently said that the United States is facing an "existential" threat at the border due to the "drug and [undocumented immigrant] flow."

Hayden said that "the general has made a very true and telling point."

It "should be clear to all of us now" is that the border is nothing more than "a line on a map," Hayden said. "It doesn't really divide or separate Mexico from the United States. And why would we expect that the hideous levels of violence and corruption that we see in Mexico now would stay south of that border just because of that line on the map?"

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Hayden is correct on this. The immigration crisis should be treated as insurgency. ;)

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We've actually done reasonably well with step one in cooperation with the Mexican government in terms of decapitating the movement of the drug cartels

What kind bullspit lie is that? I mean honestly Who is that lair trying to convince? For crying out loud FAST and FURIOUS , 'member this one lucy? WE ARM THEM....

sigh...

This is all part of the plan... Bring in the masses of illegals , declare emergency, activate the red and blue lists, start killing and incarcerating at large.

How many of yall remember the REX 84 plan?

titorite  posted on  2014-07-10   13:52:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The United States Of America Foretold In The Holy Scriptures

and

The Battle Of Armageddon

by Rev. F. E. Pitts

Feb. 22 and 23, 1857

[NOTE: written a long time ago, back when the US Govt was believed by most to be a "good thing"...we are seeing the errors and blanks filled in]

"Who is more correct?

Where and who are the "mountains of Israel" mentioned in Bible prophecy? Who will be invaded in the end-time? The United States or Palestine?

The "mountains of Israel" are the single Israeli nation in Palestine.

These "mountains of Israel" are the fifty United States in North America...."

http://www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts.htm

see Ezekiel 38-39; Revelation 20:7-9 [the "beloved city": God loves the gates of Zion more than all the gates of Jacob - Psalm 87? pressed for time here. Zechariah 2:4...Jerusalem shall be built as towns without walls for all the men and cattle thereof. "unwalled villages" in Ezekiel 38.]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2014-07-11   9:15:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

more EXCERPTS...i had to include the part about Britain because America is still a British Colony Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16,17...29:

"...The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine.

We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets.

In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'"

Only doff the subject of its Jewish robes, and the symmetrical proportions and sublimity of Christian republicanism are as perfectly delineated as a Grecian pillar. But we will now show that what is reasonable and legitimate is a true principle of interpretation, being authorized by the great Teacher from heaven. Said the disciples to our Lord, "Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?" for it is written, "Behold, I will send Elijah the prophet, before that great and notable day of the Lord." Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."

Now, suppose the difficulty of the pious Bishop were proposed to our Lord: "Master, by what construction of language do you make out that John the Baptist, the son of Zacharias and Elizabeth, is indeed Elias the prophet, which was to come, seeing he is in reality another man altogether?"

Does not the same difficulty exist in both cases; and has not our Lord, by answering the objection in one case, removed it in the other? John was "the Elias which was for to come;" not because that was the name by which he was called in his generation among men, but because he came "in the spirit and power of Elias," thereby answering the moral portrait that was drawn by the pencil of inspiration, and was, consequently, declared by the Savior to be indeed the Elias.

If, therefore, a great nationality is promised to arise in the latter days, and the United States of America exhibits the character of such nationality, as delineated by the pen of prophecy, arising "in the spirit and power" of Israel to come, and no other nation under heaven ever has or ever can answer the description, then, perfect coincidence being perfect fulfillment, our glorious republic is the nationality which was to be gathered together in the latter times under the prophetic name of Israel.

Let it be remembered, that the term Israel was a cognomen of honor, and not the natural right of a Jew. God gave the appellation to Jacob, because "as a prince he prevailed with God. "While the children of Jacob maintained their integrity, they enjoyed this high distinction; but St. Paul defends the application of the term to Gentiles who may possess the proper claims to this honor.

But perhaps the most plausible bill of exceptions taken to our theory is presented here. It is suggested, with much apparent reason, that we are too wicked and unworthy a people to bear the honored title of Israel. Alas for us, my countrymen! Heaven knows full well that we are wicked enough; for when we consider the special providence of Almighty God, marvelously exercised over us from the very infancy of our organization, through every change of fortune -- what prosperity has crowned our cause -- how we have been guided and guarded by a Divine supervision, as virtually present as the holy Shekinah, "in a cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night" -- and then look at the abominations that pollute our national escutcheon, it is humiliating in the extreme.

Look at the blasphemy that outrages the highest obligation of created beings, marring the purest language on earth, in desecrating the name of the holiest Being in the universe. Look at the violation of even heathen honest, discrediting character in almost all gradations of society. See the frenzy of political parties, disrupting the very bonds of brotherhood; while blood and debauchery infect the air and pollute the earth, bribery, homicide, and murder transpire in the very halls of our nation's councils.

But bad as we are, fellow-citizens, we are the very best people upon the face of the earth. The great heart of our magnanimous country beats responsive to the sighs and sor­rows of all nations. Our peaceful land is the hospitable home for the oppressed of all countries. Our laws are the transcript of eternal justice. True, we have neither titled dukes nor hereditary lords, but the emoluments of profit and honor are offered to the deserving of all classes, and our loftiest promotions are accessible to the humblest poor.

Though denounced abroad by all aristocracy that dooms its own pauper millions to proscription, beggary, and starvation, yet our institutions, which they fain would pity, are the pulsations of health, com­pared with the plague-spots of pestilential Europe.

Already have three hundred thousand of our African population become the Christianized children of God -- a greater number of true Christian converts, heathens as their fathers were who first came amongst us, than are to be found in all the missions of all denominations upon the earth. We have colonized a happy republic also, upon the benighted shores of their fatherland. Our ministers of mercy have gone to every heathen shore, and preached glad tidings to almost every island that dots the bosom of the ocean. Beams of light, radiating from this central home of civil and religious liberty, already break upon the distant millions that weep in the shadow of death.

When the noble Greek is crushed by the hoof of Turkish despotism, the halls of our Senate are eloquent with a sympathy that responds in the bosom of a whole people. When Poland, Hungary, and Italy struggle and fall, the hope of the American people struggles and falls with them. When the cry of starvation is heard from ill-fated Ireland, American transports are freighted with the numificent offering of a generous people. And, moved by a magnanimity which knows no parallel, our swift ships are dispatched to recover England's lost navigators in the regions of eternal snow.

We have the one living and true God, one Savior, and one religion -- one Constitution, one Confederacy, one Republic, one nationality; therefore, a true religion and a true civil government is the Israel that was to come, the "nation born at once" -- born on the 4th of July, 1776.

But let us not be misled by the consecrated name of Israel. For "all are not Israel who are called Israel. "A nation possessing the true religion, and enjoying an enlightened and liberal civil government, may have many unbelieving and rebellious people in its midst; and, doubtless, millennial glory, and the day of judgment also, will find both the righteous and the wicked, the just and the unjust, the wise and the foolish virgins, for the wheat and tares will grow together until the general harvest, "which is the end of the world." Even Israel restored to nationality will not be the Eden of bliss.

It was in the brightest days of the Hebrew nation when the tribes of Jacob were led out to the solitudes of the desert to behold the glory of God revealed upon the sacred mountain. Clouds of awful grandeur encircled its brow. Lightnings rent the mantle of the sky, and deep-toned thunders rocked Mount Sinai from its glowing summit to its granite base. Then, where was Israel -- God's own Israel? Behold him at the foot of the hill making a golden calf!

By the term of Israel, therefore, we mean to be understood, a providential nation, possessing the only true religion, and a divinely sanctioned form of civil government. Such, with all its sunshine and shadows, was ancient Israel, and such is the United States of America, and the United States of America alone.

As to the scattered Jews -- who have long since lost all genealogical proof of their respective tribes -- forming such great nationality any where, that is supremely ridiculous. That they may return to Jewry, we think highly probable; because every thing formerly connected with that nation was typical. Their fiftieth, or Jubal year, was a time when the scattered Jews returned to their respective homes, and were put in possession or seized of their patrimonial estates. This custom may anticipate the jubilee of the world; that is, when republicanism shall become world-wide. Then the Jews, in masses, may return to Canaan; for the Almighty by deed of gift made Abraham and his posterity proprietors of that land.

They may return and form a little Christian republic in Palestine. But to become the great national headship of the world, restore temple worship and priestly offerings, with all the gorgeous paraphernalia of its ancient sacerctotal splendor, is but the pious dream of fanaticism. This simplicity and spirituality of the religion of the Son of God forbids the idea; while the burdensome rites of the Jewish ritual have long since been discarded by the unostentatious loveliness and grace of a Christianity that claims to worship the Father "in spirit and in truth."

But even the supposition that they will return and form a literal government in their ancient home may be a mistake. For those prophecies that seem to refer to their literal restoration are interpreted by many worthy divines to foretell their conversion to their long-rejected Savior. This is indeed plausible.

"In foreign climes they'll cease to roam'

Nor weeping, think on Jordan's flood:

In every land they'll find a home,

In every temple worship God."

And so must it be. But if the Almighty designed to honor a people by raising them to become a great nationality, of whom is it probable such nationality would be composed? Let this question be settled by a plain principle of Divine revelation. Who are the Jews? A persecuted and disbanded people. Why are they persecuted? For rejecting the claims of the Son of God. From his very birth to this day they have, as a nation, derided and discarded him. They sealed the dreadful imprecation at his crucifixion: "His blood be upon us, and on our children."

But there is another persecuted people -- the friends of civil and religious liberty. They have been hunted down in every land, like the hart of the mountains. They have been proscribed and execrated, outraged and banished, in every age; and, for conscience' sake, have been martyred by the million. Why were they persecuted, "scattered, and peeled?" For accepting and acknowledging Jesus Christ. Here, then, is the difference. Now, apply an infallible principle which must test this question. Said the adorable Savior, "If any man serve me, him will my Father honor."

Is it, then, at all probable that God would honor a people by the promised glorious nationality, who have, as a nation, spurned the mercy of the Prince of peace, and obstinately per­sisted, before the eyes of all nations, in rejecting the clearest evidence of his Messiahship, during the long, long night of their wanderings; and yet, at the same time, pass by a people who, through every change of fortune, propitious and adverse, have firmly maintained their faith in Christ, and in­vincibly breasted the storms of persecuting vengeance for his glorious name's sake? Will heaven honor a people who dishonor his Son, and overlook a people who were ready to live and labor and suffer and die in his blessed cause? The case being self-evident, and the rule to determine our judg­ment infallible, the decision must be inevitable.

Christianity mourns the ill-fated children of a divinely chosen and illustrious ancestry, and ardently prays for their conversion to Christ. But even this glorious consummation our faith beholds far in the distance. That the Jews will ultimately embrace Christianity, we entertain no doubt; but they will be the last nation on the face of the earth that will be converted. For "the blindness that has happened to Israel" will remain "until the fullness of the Gentiles is brought in." That is, the Gentile world will be converted to God before the blindness of infidelity will be removed from Israel. To suppose the conversion of the Jewish nation to be the means of converting the Gentile world, is, consequently, directly opposed by the words of the apostle. In their case we behold the verification of another gospel maxim: "the first shall be last, and the last first." They were the first to hear the blessed tidings of man's redemption from the lips of its glorious Author, "but they received him not."

And the Apostle Paul, in his valedictory to his own countrymen, declares, "seeing that ye judge yourselves un worthy of eternal life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles." So, also, the melting strains that mingled with the tears of the Son of God over their devoted city announced the same calamity. "0 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wing, and ye would not . . . If thou hadst known, even thou, the things which belong unto thy peace, at least in this thy day, but now are they hid from thine eyes... Henceforth is your house left unto you desolate; for I say unto you, ye shall not see me henceforth till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." That is, Ye shall see me no more until you will be rejoiced to hail me as your Messiah. This is, doubtless, its true meaning.

There are very many passages of Scripture which are universally admitted by the learned and judicious to foretell the rise of a great nationality in the latter times. These predictions cannot, by any reasonable construction, be applied to the rise of such nationality in the land of Judea; but are most wonderfully descriptive of the United States of America, and of no other country under heaven....." www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts2.htm

"....It is literally described by Ezekiel, when the chief prince of Meshech, Gomer, Tubal, and Magog, with the multitudinous hosts from Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya, invades "the land of unwalled villages." It is the immense armament described by Joel when he exclaims, "Multitudes! multitudes in the valley of decision!'' It is described by the Savior to be "a time of trouble such as never shall be till that day." It is the "gathering together of the kings and nations of the earth to the battle of that great clay of God Almighty."

Such, my countrymen, are some of the unquestionable and sublime allusions in the many, very many Divine declarations that announce the grand and terrible catastrophe -- declarations that the clearest acumen and most direct philosophy of language must legitimately apply to the rapidly approaching tempest.

Nevertheless, like all other truths of the inspired volume, however overwhelming the sublimity of the theme, no violence is offered to reason, nor unnecessary embargo im­posed upon the faith of mortals.

What subject could possibly enlist a world in arms, if it be not the principle of civil and religious liberty? All other questions, however vital and important, are but local in their influence, and the weightiest results must necessarily be sec­tional. But the principle of popular freedom is capable of universal diffusion, and must ultimately be commensurate with the nations of the earth. It lies at the foundation of our being, and forms the very texture and fabric of human nature: nay, the very law of our great Creator, and every specification growing out of that law, bear directly upon this twofold principle. To love God and our neighbor plainly indicates the foundation of all true order in the governmental codes of the earth.

Freedom to worship God, and equitable reciprocities amongst our fellow creatures; wherever these first and great commandments are disregarded by the governments on earth, monarchy, absolutism, or anarchy is found to exist; and this form of government being unfriendly to the free worship of the true God, and a usurpation of the prerogatives of a people to govern themselves, always has been, and ever will be, an uncompromising enemy to civil and religious liberty, until it is annihilated from the nations of the earth.

True, both principles are aggressive, and must continue to enlarge their bounds until a final collision must exterminate the one or the other.

The outbreaks in ages past were only occasional or accidental; still, even in those times monarchy always reconnoitered with a sleepless vigilance every demonstration of popular freedom; and the genius of Republicanism has ever been prompt to prove its utter, uncompromising hostility to monarchy. But in those ages the world was too far apart, the knowledge of the nations too limited, and their contact with one another so seldom, that they seemed to live in com­parative indifference to one another.

But now, since intellectual and moral light is reaching every shore; commerce spreading every where; the formal representatives of all na­tions at the world's fairs, in London, New York and Paris; since the wonderful discoveries of gold in California and Australia, bringing the nations together; and since the facilities for travel by land and by sea, and the intercom­munication of the magnetic telegraph -- the world has come into such immediate proximity, the great issue must come off. The hostile forms of government are now clearly defined and well understood; and the two geniuses, like two Caesars, can not live in the same world together much longer. For if Republicanism be a failure, it will be overthrown; and if Absolutism be offensive to God, and an outrage upon the people, its days are destined to be numbered.

The truth, as announced in the Bible, of the coming conflict, has always been received in the Church, because too obvious to be questioned. Both Jews and Christians maintain it as a subject of Divine revelation: but as they have almost in­variably misapplied the passages that foretold a great nationality, by referring them to the Jews, it necessarily led them to lay the scene of the last great battle in the land of Palestine. That the scattered Jews would return to Judea, and the nations and kingdoms of the earth would send an armament of millions to crush out a handful of unambitious people, whom the clemency of Christian countries favored in their return -- how perfectly ridiculous!

Were all the Jews on earth restored to the small territory of Palestine, what temptation or provocation could they offer to arouse the allied armies of earth to invade them?

No, my countrymen, it is not ancient Jewry that will witness this invasion. There is another Israel, the Israel of America, that has given monarchy more disquietude than ancient Israel ever did in all its glory. And here alone monarchy will find a foeman worthy of its steel, and the only nation on the globe that can measure arms with kings....."

"...England, true to her proud autocracy, will die for the Divine right of kings. Her policy will not be influenced by language, religion, nor blood; but in the final onset she will join the crusades against America.

When was she ever known to favor an oppressed people attempting to throw off the yoke of despotism? Look at her tender mercies toward her own children when struggling in the war in Independence. See how she let loose "the horrible hell-hounds of savage cruelty," when she turned the bloody Indian, with tomahawk and scalping-knife, upon helpless women and children; and even rewarded the savage furies with a pound sterling for every scalp that was taken, whether from the poor old man, the defenseless mother, or the sucking babe.

Look at her cruelties with her pagan slaves in India. Even now, who can look to China without emotion? Behold how she gloated over ill-fated Hungary. When the friends of freedom were immolated in crowds by Austrian despots --when delicate females were cowhided in the streets by the incarnate fiend Haynau -- England, by a nod, could have sup­pressed the whole. Talk of English sympathy for the children of Africa in America!

What consummate hypocrisy! when, at the same time, thousands of her own pauper people are suffered to live like beasts, or rather to die like dogs, if not con­fined for long years in her mines, without seeing the light of day, but working in traces like mules, on all-fours, to fatten the fortunes of English aristocracy. Do you doubt the picture? it is drawn by an official report to Parliament. Alas, let Ireland, from centuries of miserable oppression, say what heart has England to aid the friends of freedom against the despotisms of usurpation.

No: England will be allied with Russia. Her policy, not her love, may sustain amicable relations while it suits her, but no longer. But her glory is departing. She has gambled with the world till she has lost the sword. When the Empress of the British Isles visited the tomb of Napoleon, to pay honor to the ashes of the dead whom her own government had outlawed while living, it was then England's waning renown was seen in the rising splendors of the French nation. "Ichabod" is already written on the palaces of her power. Self-preservation will conglomerate the autocratic powers of the Old World in one stupendous attack upon that nation whose republican principles and brilliant example have already disquieted the repose of princes, and made each royal diadem a crown of thorns.

"Thus saith the Lord God.' it shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought. Thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages: I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates. To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. "Ezekiel 38. The Almighty pronounces the invasion impolitic -- that the expedition was from "an evil thought;" and what was foreseen and foretold to be planned in weakness or wickedness, will, by its disastrous realization, confirm the truth of the Divine declaration.

The land to be invaded is, in the foregoing quotation, a literal and true description of the United States, and can apply to no other country or people under heaven. A country highly elevated -- the land once a wilderness or desolate, but now inhabited -- a "land of un walled villages".., a "people gathered out of the nations" -- a people "that dwell safely" -- proprietors of the country, dwelling at rest -- a people pro­sperous in their fortunes, having "gotten cattle and goods, dwelling in the midst of the land." ...."

"...www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts3.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2014-07-11   9:31:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The kingdom of God is all of it. It extends past the insignifigant boundaries of national lines. I think as we extend the realm of the real isreal we can see isreal is turally all for those that believe in the Redeemer, the instersector , the one that makes us as right as himself before god as long as we accept him as our savior.

Something the synagog folks don't get, hence their love of satan and all things evil.

I don't put this nation or any other before the kingdom. We are a nation of people not lines.

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