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Title: Provision to add high-tech visas gets dropped from budget bill
Source: Seattle Times
URL Source: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht ... /2002693098_hitechvisas20.html
Published: Dec 20, 2005
Author: By Erica Werner
Post Date: 2005-12-20 19:05:45 by Tauzero
Keywords: Provision, high-tech, dropped
Views: 71
Comments: 7

Provision to add high-tech visas gets dropped from budget bill

By Erica Werner

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — A Senate-passed measure to add more visas for foreign workers in high-tech and specialty fields was dropped from a budget bill that passed the House early Monday, disappointing high-tech and manufacturing firms in search of skilled workers.

The Senate plan would have allowed 30,000 more of the popular H1-B visas each year and would have increased fees for those visas to help trim the budget deficit. Congress capped the six-year H-1B visas at 65,000 per year in 2004, and that cap has already been reached for the 2006 fiscal year that began Oct. 1.

The Senate language also would have allowed 90,000 more employment-based green cards that offer permanent residency to skilled workers, and added fees for those.

Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates urged the Bush administration and lawmakers in April to abolish immigration limits on foreign engineers who can be hired by U.S. companies.

Critics contend the visas give foreigners high-level jobs that should go to U.S. workers, and some House Republicans opposed the plan as a backdoor way to boost immigration.

Technology executives have argued they are unable to find qualified U.S. workers, a contention disputed by U.S. labor groups and unemployed computer engineers.

"Anybody who's got good computer-science training, they are not out there unemployed," Gates said in April. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

House and Senate negotiators left H1-B revisions out of the final version of a $39.7 billion federal budget bill.

"This is very, very disappointing," said Sandy Boyd, a vice president at the National Association of Manufacturers. "What's distressing about this, and what the Senate clearly understood, is there is a real global competition for this work and for these employees, and the question is not whether the work is going to get done, it's where is the work going to get done. We've missed a real opportunity by not ensuring the work would be done here."

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#1. To: Tauzero (#0)

Some good news - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2005-12-20   19:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero, Red Jones (#0)

"Anybody who's got good computer-science training, they are not out there unemployed," Gates said in April. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

LIAR!

Look at IEEE's unemployment rates. The number of people employed in the field averaged 722,000 in 2003; the first-quarter figure was down to 672,000.

IEEE Cites Outsourcing As Wages Drop And U.S. Loses 221,000 Jobs

U.S. TECH JOBS LOST Job classification

2000

2004

Change

Percent

Computer hardware engineers

83,000

96,000

+13,000

+15.7

Computer/info systems managers

228,000

337,000

+109,000

+47.8

Computer programmers

745,000

564,000

­181,000

­24.3

Computer scientists/systems analysts

835,000

700,000

­135,000

­16.2

Computer software engineers

739,000

813,000

+74,000

+10.0

Electrical/electronics engineers

444,000

343,000

­101,000

­22.7

Source: U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics

All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.

~George Orwell

robin  posted on  2005-12-20   20:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All, Zipporah, RickyJ, Kamala (#2)

The above chart is JOBS LOST.

All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.

~George Orwell

robin  posted on  2005-12-20   20:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#2)

thanks for the ping. I really don't think much of that Bill Gates character.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-12-20   21:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tauzero (#0)

"Anybody who's got good computer-science training, they are not out there unemployed," Gates said in April. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

The guy's got some nerve. A college drop out who got lucky by happening to buy the OS that IBM wanted for their new PCs in '81. The guy would have been a complete and total failure if it wasn't for that lucky break. I am by far more a better programmer than Gates ever was, but that didn't stop his company from not hiring me. Fortunately I am employed now with a fairly decent software company. I don't expect it to last though; I don't see how it can with such cheap competition from overseas.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-12-20   21:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#5)

I am employed now with a fairly decent software company.

my strong sympathies RickyJ.

you've paid a high price. so have I.

I went back to construction and have a very steady job in a good market. Just doesn't pay so great.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-12-20   21:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tauzero (#0)

Anybody who's got good computer-science training, they are not out there unemployed," Gates said in April. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

  What a crock of shit this is. Bill Gates is a one government globalist. What he means is "we are just not seeing a cheap labor pool from the USA. We need slave labor from Asia."

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2005-12-21   7:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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