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Title: Book Review: Stuka Pilot (Hans Ulrich-Rudel)
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Published: Oct 22, 2013
Author: M.Lawicki
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful I became interested in this particular memoir when I learned of the existence of Hans Ulrich Rudel through other books pertaining to the exploits of the Luftwaffe in the Second World War. His career was meteoric to say the least, yet began in a very unorthodox manner when contrasted with the other known Luftwaffe aces. Deemed a slow-learner and a pilot of 'mediocre' abilities by his superiors, the young pilot Rudel was not considered a suitable candidate for a fighter pilot and subsequently assigned to observation and reconnaissance missions at the very beginning of the war. His early career in the Luftwaffe seemed to be characterized by bitterness and strife when dealing with his superiors. The charismatic Rudel was nevertheless determined to make a difference in the war and prove his superiors mistaken in their very low estimation of his abilities. Rudel managed to get himself transferred to dive bombing training in 1940, where he learned to perfect the new military discipline with devastating efficiency. Having discovered his true calling at last, Rudel began immediately to make his presence felt in the German war effort. Rudels remarkable accomplishments came in rapid succession, enabling him to develop a legendary name for himself while imprinting fear into the hearts and minds of his Soviet opponents (much like Baron Manfred Von Richtoffen did in the First World War on the Western Front). Although the point is debatable, it is easy to understand how Hans Ulrich Rudel might be considered the most valuable soldier in the Second World War. In all, he flew over 2,500 combat missions, downed 11 enemy aircraft, destroyed: 519 tanks, 4 armored trains, several bridges, over 1000 trucks and transport vehicles, 70 landing craft, two battle cruisers, a destroyer, and the Soviet Battleship Marat. Is it any wonder that Josef Stalin placed the highest bounty on Rudel's head? On several occasions he landed behind enemy lines to rescue downed airmen from his unit, and on one momentous occasion things went disastrously wrong--but I wont spoil the harrowing story for you, the reader. His accomplishments were so impressive that Hitler himself insisted on creating a new award to distinguish Rudel from all other German military and civilian aces and heroes of the day. Thus, Rudel was the only soldier in Germany to earn 'The Knights Cross of the Iron Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds. The book started out a tad slow for my liking, but became a damned good read once Rudel found his true calling in 1940. What fascinated me the most about this book is the sporadic insight we are given into the nature and inner workings of the German military machine and the German High Command itself. I also enjoyed reading about his interactions with the notable personalities of Hermann Goring and Adolf Hitler in particular. One can gather that Hitler held Rudel in very high esteem, since he allowed very few people to publicly disagree with him or express their true thoughts in his presence-- as Rudel often did. To this day, Hans Ulrich Rudel remains the most decorated combat pilot of any nation in the history of warfare. Rudel was, beyond a doubt, one of the toughest, bravest, and most charismatic human beings produced by our species. It is for this reason that I recommend this book regardless of your political or religious affiliation. Poster Comment: "[W]e must win the victory over Bolshevism, as otherwise the world will be plunged into an appalling chaos from which there is no way out. Therefore, Bolshevism must be smashed by us, even though for the present the Western Allies refuse to recognize how disastrous is their policy for themselves and the rest of the world."
***** A Must Read For Any Student of History. Compelling, Engrossing, and Educational...
By Dr.M.Lawicki on October 22, 2013
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#7. To: Pinguinite (#6)
That is the name I was looking for. Getting olde. My brother was killed in March 1945 while driving a Sherman with paper thin armor and a pea shooter 75mm gun. It was by a Tiger with an 88mm. They never stood a chance.
Not just a matter of coordination either, pilots and air crews had to be in top physical condition as well. I went up in a Stearman (as a passenger) about 10 years ago for a half hour flight, once the rush had worn off a couple hours later I felt like I'd been in a minor car wreck, or spent the day on a waterslide. It didn't help that the plane was designed for someone about 5'6" or smaller, and I was strapped in scrunched down on my tailbone, but it beats you up a bit nonetheless. Even then, pilots had to be fairly small, just because lager folks need larger planes which in turn need more fuel. Add in the mental requirements like navigation and gunnery, along with the whole perfect vision thing, and you're left with a very, very small pool of candidates. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
It is true the Soviets hold only one third, but this third is being de fended with an almost religious fanaticism. Stalingrad is Stalin's city and Stalin is the god of these young Kirgises, Usbeks, Tartars, Turkmenians and other Mongols. They are hanging on like grim death to every scrap of rubble, they lurk behind every remnant of a wall. For their Stalin they are a guard of fire-breathing war-beasts, and when the beasts falter, well-aimed revolver shots from their political commissars nail them, in one way or the other, to the ground they are defending. These Asiatic pupils of integral communism, and the political commissars standing at their backs, are destined to force Germany, and the whole world with her, to abandon the comfortable belief that communism is a political creed like so many others. Instead they are to prove to us first, and finally to all nations, that they are the disciples of a new gospel. And so Stalingrad is to become the Bethlehem of our century. But a Bethlehem of war and hatred, annihilation and destruction. This is the thought which occupies our minds as we fly sortie after sortie against the Red fortress. The section of the city held by the Soviets borders immediately on the west bank of the Volga, and every night the Russians drag everything needed by the Red Guardsmen across the Volga. Bitter fighting rages for a block of houses, for a single cellar, for a bit of factory wall. We have to drop our bombs with painstaking accuracy because our own soldiers are only a few yards away in another cellar behind debris of another wall. On our photographic maps of the city every house is distinguishable. Each pilot is given his target precisely marked with a red arrow. We fly in, map in hand, and it is forbidden to release a bomb before we have made sure of the target and the exact position of our own troops. Flying over the western pant of the city far behind the front, one is struck peculiarly by the quiet prevailing there and by the almost normal traffic. Everyone, including civilians, go about their business as if the city were far behind the front. The whole western part is now in. our hands, only the small eastern quarter of the city towards the Volga contains these Russian nests of resistance and is the scene of our most furious assaults.
The neat morning we take off for Klausenburg, a lovely old town where the Transylvanian Germans settled centuries ago; that is why the natives here speak German. We make only a short stop here to refuel, for we are in a hurry. At the same time an American reconnaissance plane appears at about 20,000 feet which means that a visit from American bomber formations may be expected before very long. The flight over the Carpathians to Buzau is grand, as is every flight above beautiful mountain scenery in perfect weather. The town now comes into view ahead of us; it used to be an unimportant landing stage on the way up to the front which ran a long way to the north of it, it is now an operational base. What has happened to the stable front line Jassy-Targul-Frumos, and to Husi? The aerodrome lies in the open country and offers no possibilities of camouflage for our aircraft, and Ploesti, the oil centre of Rumania, which is quite close, is being attacked incessantly by American bombers with very strong fighter protection; the fighters can afterwards turn their attention to us, in as far as we may be thought worth a plastering. The number of American fighters sent up to escort a bomber formation on every sortie here is greater than the total German fighter strength on the whole front. As I come in to land I see the roads leading to the aerodrome are packed with endless streams of Rumanian military trekking southward; in places convoys are halted by traffic jams. Heavy artillery of all calibers are among them. But there are no German units there. I am witnessing the last act of a tragedy. Whole sectors were held by Rumanian units which have ceased to offer any resistance whatever and are now in fall retreat. The Soviets are at their heels. Where the front line ran the German soldier fights and stands his ground, and will therefore be cut off and taken prisoner. He does not think it possible that our Rumanian allies will let the Russians invade Rumania without a fight and expose their people to this gruesome fate; he just does not believe it. After landing our aircraft are immediately got ready for operations while I report to my old wing. They are glad to have us back with them. They think we are going to have our hands full. The Russian tanks are already up to Foscari, their objective being the quick capture of Bucharest and Ploesti. Further north, German units are still putting up a fight in the Southern Army Group. In the meantime our aircraft have been got ready and we take off at once, flying high and following the main road north to Foscari. Six miles south of this town we observe gigantic clouds of dust: if that is not already the tanks-it is! We attack; they leave the road and scatter in the fields. But that does not save them. We shoot up some of them, then go back for fresh ammunition and continue our engagement with the same column. Wherever you look, masses of men and material, all Russian, mostly Mongolians. Are their reserves of manpower so inexhaustible? We get fresh practical evidence that the productive capacity of the U.S.S.R. has been greatly underestimated by everybody and that no one knows the true facts. The masses of tanks, time and again unimaginable in their number, are the most convincing proof of this. Many motor vehicles are also of American origin.
Ploesti... Had a friend that flew Ploesti raids. Have to pass this story to you. Late in the war he completed pilot training, was then shipped out for a few weeks of multi-engine training. From there to B-24 transition. After a short indoctrination into B-24s the better pilots were chosen as aircraft commanders. He was hoping to get posted as co-pilot with a pilot that knew what he was doing. The day of selection, he read the listing and found out he was now a brand new aircraft commander. He met his co-pilot who said this. "Damn, am I glad to get paired with someone older that knows how to fly these damned things". My friend was twenty. They were given a brand new B-24, flew the land bridge to Recife Brazil, then across the Atlantic to Dakar. Thence to Libya and Ploesti. Several aircraft making the trip never made it, got lost, went in the ocean etc etc. Ploesti was easy, just follow the leader, hope for the best.
A real soldier is seldom likely to make a good diplomat, and this meeting with von Ribbentrop is rather intriguing. It is an opportunity for conversations which shed light on the other side of the war which is being conducted without weapons. He is greatly interested in my opinion of the strength of the east front and our military potential at this particular moment. I make it clear to him that we at the front hope he is doing something through diplomatic channels to loosen the strangle -hold in which we are caught on every side. "Cannot the Western Powers be made to see that Bolshevism is their greatest enemy and that after an eventual victory over Germany it will be the same menace to them as to us, and that alone they will no longer be able to get rid of it?" He takes my remarks as a gentle personal reproof; no doubt I am only playing over a record he has had to listen to many times. He at once explains to me that he has already made a number of attempts which have failed, because every time the necessity for a fresh military retirement on one or other sector of the front shortly after he had opened negotiations has encouraged the enemy to continue the war in any case and to leave the conference table. He cites instances and says some- what reproachfully that the treaties which he had brought off before the war, among other things those with England and Russia, were surely no mean achievement if not a triumph. But nobody mentions them any longer; today people see only the negative aspects, the responsibility for which is not his. Naturally even now negotiations were still going on, but whether with the general situation such as it was the success he wished for would still be possible was problematical. This peep behind the scenes of diplomacy sates my curiosity and I am not anxious to learn more. A real soldier is seldom likely to make a good diplomat, and this meeting with von Ribbentrop is rather intriguing. It is an opportunity for conversations which shed light on the other side of the war which is being conducted without weapons. He is greatly interested in my opinion of the strength of the east front and our military potential at this particular moment. I make it clear to him that we at the front hope he is doing something through diplomatic channels to loosen the strangle -hold in which we are caught on every side.
It is a dreadful thing to be flying and fighting above our homes, the more so when one sees what masses of men and material are pouring into our country like a flood. We are no more than a boulder, a small obstruction but unable to stem the tide. The devil is now gambling for Germany, for all Europe. Invaluable forces are bleeding to death, the last bastion of the world is crumbling under the assault of Red Asia. Of an evening we are more exhausted by this realization than by the incessant operations of the day. Stubborn refusal to accept this fate and the determination that "this must not happen" keep us going. I would not like to have to reproach myself for having failed to do everything within my power till the eleventh hour to stave off the appalling, menacing spectre of defeat. I know that every decent young German thinks as I
Early in the morning I receive a message that I am to come to the H.Q. of the 9th American Air Army at Erlangen. I refuse until all my pilfered belongings have been returned to me. After much persuasion in which I am told that the matter is very urgent and that I can rely on getting my things back as soon as the thief has been caught, I set off with Niermann. At Air Army H.Q. we are first interrogated by three General Staff officers. They begin by showing us some photographs which they claim to have been taken of atrocities in concentration camps. As we have been fighting for such abominations, they argue, we also share the guilt. They refuse to believe me when I tell them that I have never even seen a concentration camp. I add that if excesses have been committed they are regrettable and reprehensible, and the real culprits should be punished. I point out that such cruelties have been perpetrated not only by our people, but by all peoples in every age. I remind them of the Boer War. Therefore these excesses must be judged by the same criterion. I cannotimagine that the mounds of corpses depicted on the photographs were taken in concentration camps. I tell them that we have seen such sights, not on paper, but in fact, after the air attacks on Dresden and Hamburg and other cities when Allied four-engined bombers deluged them indiscriminately with phosphorus and high explosive bombs and countless women and children were massacred. And I assure these gentlemen that if they are e especially interested in atrocities they will find abundant material-and "living" material at that-among their Eastern Allies.
They never stood a chance. There's no way I can empathize with you on that. But I'm totally confident you will see him again. My Best...
My guess is that both crews believed in what they were doing, believed their causes were just. In March an American would have been on German soil, so the Tiger crew actually would have been defending his country, trying to drive the invaders out. With our current immigration situation, one has to concede that the American may have died for nothing. Rudel states that the high command believed super weapons would be brought online in time to end the war decisively, even by that time. Rudel also admits that the high command was frequently misled to believe in exaggerated field strength by sycophants in the chain of command. It would make sense that the engineering leadership would do the same thing, fearing consequences of the truth, especially after years of empty promises.
The Stuka Dive Bomber was uniquely equipped with a siren powered by a small wing mounted prop. It was so terrifying a sound that it's rumored that many who survived had to contend with the stink of soiled smallies, perhaps in the close quarters of shelters. The plane was also equipped with a failsafe that prevented the plane from crashing if the pilots blacked out from the G forces of the dive. Imagine hearing that screaming siren and running while back filling your skivvies. That would be an unforgettable ordeal. Hell, I'd rather be known as Jakob The Liar than Ivan The Pooper. "PTFE's (aka TEFLON) resistance to van der Waals forces means that it is the only known surface to which a gecko cannot stick."
The dive siren was pure genius, much as going to red alert on Star Trek was insane. Adrenaline is increased during panic, but ability to reason goes way, way down. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
I'm Joe Stack and I want a Stuka.
Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans.
Too funny.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
OK wise guys... Tell me the name of the number two man in the Luftwaffe and his race. Anyone caught cheating will still pass.
I'm too tired to cheat, so I'll admit that I don't even know the #1 guy in the Luftwaffe...much less his staff.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Herman Goerring was the Luftwaffe ubermensch, a decent guy with a bad habit of following orders.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Sir Lod... Goering was number one, General Erhard Milch was number two, a jew. Commander of German army was Keitel, a jew. Commander of German navy, Raeder, was jew. Also just for fun, Putin is Jew, his Grandfather worked for Lenin and Stalin. Never trust a Russian, particularly if they are jews.
To cover his jewish tracks, Milchs mother signed a paper saying his father was actually a drunken uncle.
Thanks for the history refresher.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
On the internet is a photo of Putin, sitting with five "Russian" billionaires. All are Jews. That begs the question, if under Communism, the State owns everything, how did Russia have so many instant billionaires? In fact of the top eight billionaires, in Russia, six are Jews.
Erich Hartmann was #1, General Gunther Rall was #3, I momentarily forget #2. I saw General Gunther Rall back in 1997 at Oshkosh Airventure, he was exceedingly happy to be around so many aircraft and happily obliged Good White Parents who wanted to have their children photographed sitting in his lap as if he were a grandfather. (P.S. - I thought you were asking for the aces, not the organization hierarchy). Michael Wittmann
#8. To: Obnoxicated (#2)
Good hand and eye coordination kills. If Rudel were a young man today, he'd probably have been playing for a world cup title this year.
#9. To: All (#0)
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On the close-in infantry air support over Stalingrad. Italics added.
#10. To: All (#9)
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Defense of Ploesti.
#11. To: Deasy, All (#10)
#12. To: All (#10)
On the years-long (and failed) effort to secure an armistice on the western front.
#13. To: All (#12)
On fighting in the air over one's own home country.
#14. To: All (#13)
On the reeducation and reindoctrination of a veteran of the eastern front.
#15. To: Cynicom (#7)
My brother was killed in March 1945 while driving a Sherman with paper thin armor and a pea shooter 75mm gun. It was by a Tiger with an 88mm.
#16. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite (#15)
My brother was killed in March 1945 while driving a Sherman with paper thin armor and a pea shooter 75mm gun. It was by a Tiger with an 88mm.
#17. To: Deasy (#0)
#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)
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#19. To: HOUNDDAWG, 4 (#17)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
#21. To: Lod, JethroTull, Deasy, assorted Putinphobes (#20)
#22. To: Cynicom (#21)
#23. To: Lod, Cynicom, (#22)
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#24. To: Lod (#22)
#25. To: Dakmar (#23)
#26. To: Cynicom, Dax (#25)
#27. To: Lod (#26)
#28. To: Cynicom (#21)
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-Alex Kurtagic
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
The uber-layer of zio bankers exists above the government of all countries that they are allowed to exist in. They and their buddies live way above the fray of the commoners regardless the rulers du jour...a given and a truism.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#30. To: Cynicom (#24)
Erhard was a founding director of Lufthansa airlines. David Irving wrote an excellent biography of Milch, I highly recommend it to everybody: The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe (1973)
-Alex Kurtagic
#31. To: Cynicom (#27) (Edited)
I get the feeling that the new Russian Republic is a marvelous place for coincidences. That begs the question, if under Communism, the State owns everything, how did Russia have so many instant billionaires?
"PTFE's (aka TEFLON) resistance to van der Waals forces means that it is the only known surface to which a gecko cannot stick."
#32. To: Dakmar (#18)
Interesting observation. Perhaps that's why the US Navy uses "sound general quarters" when expected to prosecute their missions against potential hostiles and unfriendlies. I always believed that the order wasn't frantic sounding enough for the call to combat stations with flak jackets and helmets. Perhaps you've just explained why. I suppose if I was calling my family to report to their preassigned windows to fend off an attack of a Bigfoot battalion, I wouldn't want to say, "Okay Family, grab your shootin' irons and report to duty stations, and LAST CHANCE TO SAY YOUR PRAYERS in case there are no remains to pray last rites for...." The dive siren was pure genius, much as going to red alert on Star Trek was insane. Adrenaline is increased during panic, but ability to reason goes way, way down.
"PTFE's (aka TEFLON) resistance to van der Waals forces means that it is the only known surface to which a gecko cannot stick."
#33. To: HOUNDDAWG, Cynicom (#31)
Cynicom may be reading too many badly written blogs. This erroneous usage has become popular lately. It's a sure indicator of our accelerating decline. (begs vs. raises) the question
#34. To: HOUNDDAWG (#31)
Many Americans actually bought into the charade when Soviet Union changed one mask for another. The gun is still there, hidden behind them, not in front. The same people are still in charge. Americans at times are so gullible, so naive, so lacking of a background in history that, it is pitiful. We seem to have innocent people here that still believe in the tooth fairy. I get the feeling that the new Russian Republic is a marvelous place for coincidences.
#35. To: Deasy (#33)
"Witness" is not a blog. Did you read it? "Madisons Notes" are not a blog. Did you read them? Cynicom may be reading too many badly written blogs.
#36. To: Cynicom (#35)
It was too early for a rhetorical jibe. You're talking about Whittaker Chambers' Witness? I've read summaries of it and reviews (long long ago). I haven't looked at Madison's Notes on the Constitution, e.g. avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/debcont.asp but I've read selected Federalist Papers.
#37. To: Cynicom, Lod, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, X-15, Lod, Obnoxicated, Turtle (#24)
In Stuka Pilot, Rudel talks about the general staff and Goering being misled by their underlings. Looks like these Jewish members of the military were loyal but of questionable capabilities. On the other hand, Jews purged from the physical sciences were probably the missing link in Germany's failed nuclear program. Keitel wasn't respected by his peers, but helped foil the July 20th plot. From wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Keitel Keitel played an important role in foiling the 20 July plot in 1944. Keitel then sat on the Army "Court of honour" that handed over many officers who were involved, including field marshal Erwin von Witzleben, to Roland Freisler's notorious People's Court. Anyone caught cheating will still pass.
According to Albert Speer's memoirs, nearly all of the field marshals and generals viewed him with scorn and disdain for succumbing to Hitler's influence and transforming himself from an "honorable, solidly respectable general" into a powerless yes-man with all the wrong instincts, whose only job was to allow Hitler to take control of the Army. General Ludwig Beck complained that he was incapable of giving Hitler the reality of the situations and was an extremely poor tactician whose decisions were motivated more by ensuring his own survival rather than that of the troops; Marshal Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist labeled him as nothing more than a "stupid follower of Hitler", and most commanders went out of their way to ignore his orders, although von Kleist did admit that, had Hitler chosen a more competent commander (such as himself), he would have lasted only two weeks. His sycophancy was well known in the army, and he acquired the nickname 'Lakeitel', a pun on his name (in German, the word 'Lakai' means 'lackey').[2] Keitel accepted Hitler's directive for Operation Citadel in 1943, despite strong opposition from several field officers who argued that neither the troops nor the new tanks on which Hitler staked his hopes for victory were ready.
Erhard Milch went on trial and was convicted at Nuremberg: The Nuremberg Trials: Complete Proceedings publisher's note: [Volume 8] also incorporates the submission of evidence by Goering’s defence, notably General Karl von Bodenschatz, who was the liaison officer between Goering and Hitler until the July 20 Plot in 1944, who was later sentenced two years in prison, and Erhard Milch, a German Field-Marshal of Jewish descent who oversaw the development of the Luftwaffe. Goering suppressed rumours of his ethnicity, and issued him with a German Blood Certificate, stating famously “Wer Jude ist, bestimme ich” (I decide who is a Jew). Milch was later found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity and sentenced to life imprisonment, though was later released in 1954 and died in Dusseldorf in 1972.
Raeder wasn't spectacular as a naval commander. From wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Raeder: After a series of failed operations, especially the Battle of the Barents Sea, Raeder was demoted to Admiral Inspector. This office was only ceremonial. Raeder intended to tell Hitler about the failure of Barents Sea and explain it as series of misunderstandings. However the message was not passed on and Hitler thinking that the battle was a success announced that. When Hitler found out the truth, he summoned Raeder to explain himself. When Raeder turned up, Hitler gave him a piece of his mind and decided he was going to scrap the German surface fleet. On 30 January 1943 Raeder resigned.
#38. To: Cynicom (#35)
Someone thought "Witness" was a blog? You're kidding me. "Witness" is not a blog.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#39. To: Turtle (#38)
Deasy says I read blogs. No person that ever read Witness would ever be a Russophile. I am shocked we have such here. For instance, Ukraine is 80 per cent Ukranian, Russians are 17 per cent.
#40. To: Cynicom (#39)
Do you think it appropriate to make a distinction between the zionist Soviet Bolshevism of Chambers' time and Putins' Russia of today? Why or why not? If you'd care to elaborate. No person that ever read Witness would ever be a Russophile.
#41. To: Cynicom (#39)
Who? I am shocked we have such here.
#42. To: Buzzard (#40)
Why or why not? If you'd care to elaborate. One and the same. Only the mask has changed. Putins grandfather was a loyal servant to Lenin and Stalin all his life. There is a game within a game going in Europe and Americans have fallen for the usual media hype. Duped would suffice but suckered is more nearly correct. Most likely you do not recall the 1930s when untold thousands of Americans bought the Russian hype, moved to Russia and were shot or lived in the Gulag. Do you think it appropriate to make a distinction between the zionist Soviet Bolshevism of Chambers' time and Putins' Russia of today?
#43. To: Cynicom (#42)
Not first hand. My Dad was just a little guy back then. But I am aware of the how many naive Americans of that era were duped by communism. On the other hand, I don't want to lose sight of how Czarist Russia stood by the US during the rothschild inspired civil war. Nor the fact that there are still many people with the Cyrillic version of my surname in Russia. Orthodox Christians all. Every zionist-occupied government is suspect regardless of its economic / social pretense. For me, the jury's still out on Putin. It could go either way depending upon how the next few years play out. Most likely you do not recall the 1930s
#44. To: Buzzard (#43)
Comrade Buzzardovitch, I believe that Vlad is of Cossack derivation. (although some of them were actually Red Sea Pedestrians or, pseudo Heebs-Khazars, too. For me, the jury's still out on Putin. It could go either way depending upon how the next few years play out.
"PTFE's (aka TEFLON) resistance to van der Waals forces means that it is the only known surface to which a gecko cannot stick."
#45. To: Buzzard (#43)
Excellent... Many of our friends here fail to understand that truism. I first met Dr. Schachts Godson a few years after WWII. One of the first things he passed to me was this..."Americans are making the same mistake we Germans made after WWI"... I did not understand. His warning was this, the American government has been taken over by world Jewry and soon we would regret it. He was correct. With this insider and two older mentors, I started immersing myself in history. Not the "history" taught in school and college. All were involved one way or another in high level government, all had the same view, most of what you hear is false, half of what you see is not real. World enemies are often friends with a common goal. Every zionist-occupied government is suspect regardless of its economic / social pretense.
#46. To: Cynicom, Buzzard, HOUNDDAWG, 4, christine, Jethro Tull, X-15, Dakmar (#45)
Specifics would be helpful here. What we know is arguably more important than what we don't know, but may want to assume. The godson is obviously referring to an American period after the 1920s. Since you were speaking to him in or after the 1950s, he was clearly warning you about that period, not before WWII. Yet some educated Americans were already aware of the "impending" Holocaust of Europe's Jewry by 1941. They believed America should engage the Axis in war in part to stop it. How had a single ethnic group fewer than 50 million strong in the entire world persuaded any significant number Americans that they were worth fighting a war to save? Also, let's not forget that the Russian Revolution took Czarist Russia out of the war in early 1918 with the Treaty of Brest-Litvosk, ensuring that full control over the Levant would fall into the hands of western Allies. In 1914, Brandeis had already published a book called Other People's Money and how the Bankers Use it, a reformist attack on private investment. One can speculate that the alarms he raised helped validate the need for the Federal Reserve act of 1913. Eustace Mullins' book The Secrets of the Federal Reserve demonstrates the overwhelmingly Jewish ethnic involvement in founding the Federal Reserve system. As Brandeis admits, investing and banking were already putting the nation at risk with monopolies and lack of regulation, so the Fed was promised as a "solution," which only gave full access to the government's resources as a means for propping up the failures and lack of real competition. Simple examination of the main advocates for Allied war against Germany in the 1930s show that World Jewry was influencing Churchill and FDR; Churchill through the Focus group, and FDR through his cabinet and others. British support for Poland was a phony excuse to declare war on Germany. What was worse about 1950 than in 1913? Wasn't it just a noose being tightened around American liberties with greater and greater force by the same people? Aside from the Venona decodings and Chambers message of warning regarding communism in Witness, these weren't the only threats to American liberty and culture. Consider the impact of the Frankfurt School, Neo-Marxists hell bent on dismantling the British Enlightenment. They were imported from Frankfurt university before the mass internment of Germany's Jews and housed at the University of Chicago. They have arguably been a significant impact on our laws and culture via their influence on first America's educational establishment, and later the world's. The spying and infiltration documented in Venona and Witness helped to justify a massive increase in government surveillance. For Cold Warriors, these facts were used to justify the Domino Theory embroiling us in wars all over the planet some overt like Korea, Vietnam, even the three wars against Israel, and many covert like el Salvador and other south American intrusions. The Drug War is a primary result of these covert wars because congress would not finance them to the CIA's liking. I'm arguing that the very nature of building up our government to "fight the Cold War" has brought us the very behemoth that knows who would join the patriot movement in a civil war, or who would engage in civil disobedience if a foreign war broke out or in protest to banking's excesses. Think about what happened to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Think about the OKC bombing and how much FBI involvement there was. Think about Ruby Ridge and Randy Weaver being propositioned by one informant after another. A Frankfurt School-based educational establishment combined with a lethal spy state are almost as bad (in my perspective) as the Rosenberg betrayals. Their impact on us could be considered worse: we've accepted the spy state, and political correctness comes straight out of the Frankfurt School, silencing many who would otherwise speak up against their loss of liberty. Former banker and Reece Committee investigative researcher Normand Dodd argues that the non-profit foundations of America were instrumental in bringing America into WWI with the goal of dismantling America's sense of its own history: Some perspectives on Hjalmar Schact: For one thing, he wasn't in favor of the methods being used to drive Jews out of Germany during the 1930s: I first met Dr. Schachts Godson a few years after WWII. One of the first things he passed to me was this..."Americans are making the same mistake we Germans made after WWI"...
His warning was this, the American government has been taken over by world Jewry and soon we would regret it.
Yet our entry into WWI itself was urged on both sides of the Atlantic by World Jewry via Sykes-Picot concluded in 1916, and secretly lobbied by Jewish supreme court justice Brandeis, appointed by Woodrow Wilson (and others) who wanted to claim Ottoman empire territory for a Zionist state of Israel. The Balfour Declaration of November 1917 was secured in exchange for America's entry into WWI in April of 1917. I did not understand.
Help us understand via specifics what you know, please. Finally, of course, the war is over. At that time their interest shifts over to preventing what they call a reversion of life in the United States to what it was prior to 1914 when World War I broke out. At that point they came to the conclusion that, to prevent a reversion, “we must control education in the United States.” They realize that that's a pretty big task. It is too big for them alone, so they approach the Rockefeller Foundation with the suggestion that that portion of education which could be considered domestic be handled by the Rockefeller Foundation and that portion which is international should be handled by the Endowment. They then decide that the key to success of these two operations lay in the alteration of the teaching of American history.
It's significant that the Reece Commission was dismantled after being accused of antisemitism. World enemies are often friends with a common goal.
That's the best argument I've ever heard for isolationism. Schacht disagreed with what he called "unlawful activities" against Germany's Jewish minority and in August 1935 made a speech denouncing Julius Streicher and Streicher's writing in the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer.
Other fairly well-documented facts on that page are clear:
What did Schact know that caused him to stop supporting Hitler? Was the godson as sympathetic to Germany's Jews as Schact was? What did the godson suggest as a method for coping with the problems he relayed to you?
#47. To: Deasy (#46)
He was quite specific. When one is being enlightened, with the wisdom of elders that were there, adding their own preconceived, programmed and brain washed theories is self destructive. Specifics would be helpful here.
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